A sample of how 'hard' teachers have it

[her209]

More of my tax dollars going to waste. Great.

You make $9/hr. You don't pay taxes.

 

[Hacp]

You wouldn't last 1 week you sorry piece of crap. Go ask more questions on how to get food stamps and steal your roommate's food, freeloader.

I think I'd do just fine. While I'm at it, I'll get a masters in basketweaving, totally unrelated to my teaching just to get a raise.

 

[Engineer]

I think I'd do just fine. While I'm at it, I'll get a masters in basketweaving, totally unrelated to my teaching just to get a raise.

The bolded part is your first mistake.

Again, you are worthless and a legend in your own mind.

 

[Hacp]

You make $9/hr. You don't pay taxes.

Another myth. By the end of the year, I'll be at around 12-13k. The standard deduction is a bit less than 6k. On the other hand, Canadians don't pay any US taxes.

 

[Engineer]

Another myth. By the end of the year, I'll be at around 12-13k. The standard deduction is a bit less than 6k. On the other hand, Canadians don't pay any US taxes.

Who says he's Canadian and what does that have to do with this thread?

2nd, are you claiming yourself or are your parents claiming you (or both?)?

Regardless, you pay 10% after standard deduction and personal exemption(assuming that you claim you) so you pay a whopping 10% of $3,000 to $4,000 ($300 to $400 in taxes) + %7.65% in SS/Medicare ($918 to $994.50) + whatever you pay in state/local taxes.

I'm not so sure that you don't get EIC since you have so low of income and claim yourself. Goes to look....

Looks like you are eligible for EIC so you would pay esentially ZERO income tax, 7.65% payroll tax plus whatever state/local tax. So if that were the case (not 100% sure), then you are a freeloader on society.

 

[JD50]

Another myth. By the end of the year, I'll be at around 12-13k. The standard deduction is a bit less than 6k. On the other hand, Canadians don't pay any US taxes.

Why haven't you gotten a teaching job?

 

[mizzou]

go teach then if you think it's so fucking fantastic

 

[Hacp]

Why haven't you gotten a teaching job?

Because you can't fire bad teachers to let the good ones (like me) in. Unions won't allow it.

 

[Engineer]

Because you can't fire bad teachers to let the good ones (like me) in. Unions won't allow it.

If no new teachers are coming in, why is it that the school across the street from my home has had no less than 4 new teachers per year for the last 4 years?

1. You aren't worthy or smart enough to be a teacher.
2. Thank God

 

[Hacp]

Who says he's Canadian and what does that have to do with this thread?

2nd, are you claiming yourself or are your parents claiming you (or both?)?

Regardless, you pay 5% after standard deduction (assuming that your parents claim you) so you pay a whopping 5% of $6,000 to $7,000 ($300 to $350 in taxes) + %7.65% in SS/Medicare ($918 to $994.50) + whatever you pay in state/local taxes.

If I pay 5%, that is good news. I thought I had to pay 10% for some reason. If you don't think that is a significant amount, you are free to send me a check covering my tax expenses. I'll keep quiet until next year when I need to pay more taxes.

 

[her209]

If I pay 5%, that is good news. I thought I had to pay 10% for some reason. If you don't think that is a significant amount, you are free to send me a check covering my tax expenses. I'll keep quiet until next year when I need to pay more taxes.

That's assuming your parents' claim you as a dependent. Do they claim you as a dependent?

 

[First]

lmao Hacp posts.

 

[HomerJS]

Take a look at this report issued by the Beureau of Labor and Statistics. It's a report on teacher work patterns. Pay close attention to hours worked/day, summer work and work taken home.

I think it will take a lot of the air out of PJs "Teachers are a bunch of overpaid lazy sloths" blimp

http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2008/03/art4full.pdf

 

[DrPizza]

Reality is the union contract in that link that lays it out right in front of you.

Sure a lot of teachers do extra work and do home work and stay late.

But do you really think they are putting in 3 hours a day for everyday of the school year doing that?

And what about the teachers who suck and do exactly what the contract requires?
7 hours a day, 187 days a year and it is nearly impossible to get fired... :hmm:

Sure, I have a similar contract. It says a lot about your own values if you think that most people only do the bare minimum expected of them. I don't know *any* teachers who work anywhere near the minimum requirements by the contract.

As far as "impossible to get fired" - wrong. All that tenure grants a teacher is due process to be fired for a reasonable reason. Furthermore, a bad teacher shouldn't get tenure. In most places, it takes 3 years before you get tenure. If the administration can't figure out in 3 years that someone's not cut out for teaching, then it's the administration's fault that you have a bad teacher in the district - not the union's fault. Many people only teach for a year or two, and decide they aren't cut out for being a teacher. I've also seen quite a few not get tenured.

 

[Hacp]

That's assuming your parents' claim you as a dependent. Do they claim you as a dependent?

Nice. Of course I won't let them claim me as a dependent. I pay for everything. That $370 is going back to me.

 

[JD50]

Because you can't fire bad teachers to let the good ones (like me) in. Unions won't allow it.

There's open vacancies, my sister just graduated and got hired as a full time teacher for this upcoming school year. This is in a really good school district, I don't think you'd have any problems finding a job as a teacher in the inner city. So what's stopping you?

 

[Hacp]

Sure, I have a similar contract. It says a lot about your own values if you think that most people only do the bare minimum expected of them. I don't know *any* teachers who work anywhere near the minimum requirements by the contract.

As far as "impossible to get fired" - wrong. All that tenure grants a teacher is due process to be fired for a reasonable reason. Furthermore, a bad teacher shouldn't get tenure. In most places, it takes 3 years before you get tenure. If the administration can't figure out in 3 years that someone's not cut out for teaching, then it's the administration's fault that you have a bad teacher in the district - not the union's fault. Many people only teach for a year or two, and decide they aren't cut out for being a teacher. I've also seen quite a few not get tenured.

The fact is that there are too many tenured teachers. There should be no such thing as tenure. There is no tenure in private sector education.

 

[jackstar7]

I want to see the stats on the posters in this thread. Those who have kids (and those that don't) and those who have taught (and those that haven't) against the view that teachers are undervalued.

 

[Hacp]

There's open vacancies, my sister just graduated and got hired as a full time teacher for this upcoming school year. This is in a really good school district, I don't think you'd have any problems finding a job as a teacher in the inner city. So what's stopping you?

Actually, there are no vacancies. Hiring freeze because unions want the city to hire fired union employees before they hire new people. Then they get pensions after they retire. 30k a year for 30 years, just for not working.

 

[etrigan420]

I think it will take a lot of the air out of PJs "Teachers are a bunch of overpaid lazy sloths" blimp.

That's assuming there was ever any "air in his blimp" to begin with...:hmm:

I seriously doubt even *he* believes half of the shit he spews.

 

[JD50]

Actually, there are no vacancies. Hiring freeze because unions want the city to hire fired union employees before they hire new people. Then they get pensions after they retire. 30k a year for 30 years, just for not working.

I have no idea what city you're talking about and I really couldn't care less. You make $12k a year. You should be willing to relocate to any city that is willing to hire you as a teacher, you will easily double if not triple your salary, and apparently you'll have one of the cushiest jobs in the world. How could someone in your situation pass that up?

 

[Fear No Evil]

I want to see the stats on the posters in this thread. Those who have kids (and those that don't) and those who have taught (and those that haven't) against the view that teachers are undervalued.

LOL. How about we only let people who have been President talk about the job Obama is doing as well?

 

[Fear No Evil]

Take a look at this report issued by the Beureau of Labor and Statistics. It's a report on teacher work patterns. Pay close attention to hours worked/day, summer work and work taken home.

I think it will take a lot of the air out of PJs "Teachers are a bunch of overpaid lazy sloths" blimp

http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2008/03/art4full.pdf

Got anything which compares those stats to other professions? If not, they are meaningless.

 

[Engineer]

If I pay 5%, that is good news. I thought I had to pay 10% for some reason. If you don't think that is a significant amount, you are free to send me a check covering my tax expenses. I'll keep quiet until next year when I need to pay more taxes.

You are correct, it was 10% but since you claim yourself, it's essentially the same.

Also....


I'm not so sure that you don't get EIC since you have so low of income and claim yourself. Goes to look....

Looks like you are eligible for EIC so you would pay esentially ZERO income tax, 7.65% payroll tax plus whatever state/local tax. So if that were the case (not 100% sure), then you are a freeloader on society, right?

 

[her209]

Nice. Of course I won't let them claim me as a dependent. I pay for everything. That $370 is going back to me.

If you're not being claimed as a dependent, then you got an additional:

$3,650 in exemption on top of the $5,700 standard deduction.

Also it sounds like you qualified for:
Tuition and Fees Deduction or Educational Credit
Making Work Pay Credit
American Opportunity Credit