It looks like the republicans who vote yeah bailed out (can they do that?). Its now just 3 democrats
It looks like the republicans who vote yeah bailed out (can they do that?). Its now just 3 democrats
The issue recently has been about cutting and running. This failed resolution shows that we are not going to do that to our troops and to the Iraqis.
Nice troll.:roll:
Funny, why didn't the resolution read "we will not cut and run from Iraq. we support our troops and the Iraqis"?
I guess the Republicans didn't really mean anything by this resolution except politics. They are the party of negativity.
Or, to play your little game... You mean, they showed more common sense than to vote for a a really stupid resolution proposed byt their own idiot leadership. :laugh:
Now you know two can play that game.
Have you ever been in the service? If not, Since you're so gung ho to support our troops, why not? Do yo have the moral integrity to put your life where your mouth is? :shocked:
BTW -- If you want to show support for the troops, take some time to visit a military cemetary or better yet, volunteer to do some work helping all those wounded vets at your local VA hospital.
I suppose in your alter reality you are right.:laugh: It's plainly obvious to people paying attention that the party of negativity right now is the Democrats.
I've got to admit.. the House's debate was respectable and for once our elected officials were doing something right by having a good debate on this issue..something which they should have done more of a very long time ago.
It's plainly obvious that the Republicans are playing POLITICS with our TROOPS.
How patently DISRESPECTFUL to our troops is THAT?
Yeh, right, Shades. When Dems make a certain proposal, Repubs offer up something that sounds the same, but isn't, and then attempt to define the whole discourse around that. If the Repub proposal is what the Dems wanted, then Dems would have offered it themselves... And if the Repub proposal is the same as the Dems, then Repubs wouldn't have substituted their own chimera for the real thing...
"If they do not vote, they are not showing the people they represent where they stand on this issue."
Yeh, but that's not really the issue, and anybody who's been paying attention knows that... This may play well to the well indoctrinated members of the faithful, but in case you haven't noticed, that choir is getting smaller every day...
One thing for sure, which is that Repubs are definitely going on record as supporting the ongoing travesty that is Iraq. As the whole thing drags on, many will wish that they hadn't- voter antipathy to the whole Quixotic adventure is growing steadily, for good reason.
"If they do not vote, they are not showing the people they represent where they stand on this issue."
Yeh, but that's not really the issue, and anybody who's been paying attention knows that... This may play well to the well indoctrinated members of the faithful, but in case you haven't noticed, that choir is getting smaller every day...
One thing for sure, which is that Repubs are definitely going on record as supporting the ongoing travesty that is Iraq. As the whole thing drags on, many will wish that they hadn't- voter antipathy to the whole Quixotic adventure is growing steadily, for good reason.
Originally posted by: Harvey
Or, to play your little game... You mean, they showed more common sense than to vote for a a really stupid resolution proposed byt their own idiot leadership. :laugh:
Now you know two can play that game.
Have you ever been in the service? If not, Since you're so gung ho to support our troops, why not? Do yo have the moral integrity to put your life where your mouth is? :shocked:
BTW -- If you want to show support for the troops, take some time to visit a military cemetary or better yet, volunteer to do some work helping all those wounded vets at your local VA hospital.
Yeah:roll: their leadership wanted it to pass. :roll: Sorry, but that has nothing to do with what I posted.
Do you have the moral integrity to act on your beliefs? If you think this war is so wrong, why don't you go protect the terrorists from the US soldiers as a human shield? It's the same as your absurd suggestion that I should have to be in the Military because I support the military action that removed Saddam and is helping the Iraqi people set up their own Government.
BTW, I do support the troops and although I have donated to many of the troop's causes in many ways, those details are none of your business.
The party of negativity?!?! They are the ones saying the economy is strong, that it's on track. They are the ones saying we will succeed in Iraq. Democrats are the ones saying our economy is in shables and we are failing in Iraq. Who's negative again?
Steeplerot
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what a irresponsible bill to cut and run, why do the republicans hate the troops so much?
A party of whiners and blowhards got smacked down again, can they do anything right??
A party of whiners and blowhards got smacked down again, can they do anything right??
While the Republicans celebrate another crooked, dirty stunt by their leadership, another 90 people die in Iraq.
I'm glad you're proud.
Don't think you've won the battle for this country though. It's just getting heated up.
I'm glad you're proud.
Don't think you've won the battle for this country though. It's just getting heated up.
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Harvey
Or, to play your little game... You mean, they showed more common sense than to vote for a a really stupid resolution proposed byt their own idiot leadership. :laugh:
Now you know two can play that game.
Have you ever been in the service? If not, Since you're so gung ho to support our troops, why not? Do yo have the moral integrity to put your life where your mouth is? :shocked:
BTW -- If you want to show support for the troops, take some time to visit a military cemetary or better yet, volunteer to do some work helping all those wounded vets at your local VA hospital.
Yeah:roll: their leadership wanted it to pass. :roll: Sorry, but that has nothing to do with what I posted.
Do you have the moral integrity to act on your beliefs? If you think this war is so wrong, why don't you go protect the terrorists from the US soldiers as a human shield? It's the same as your absurd suggestion that I should have to be in the Military because I support the military action that removed Saddam and is helping the Iraqi people set up their own Government.
BTW, I do support the troops and although I have donated to many of the troop's causes in many ways, those details are none of your business.
donating to the republican party is the opposite of supporting our troops.
umbrella39
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WAIT A MINUTE....
You DO NOT get to weasel out of my question that easily. "Donating" doesn't mean squat. Anyone can toss a few bucks into the bucket. I asked if you'd been in the service. Have you? :shocked:
And before you try to throw it back at me, YES, I have. I was in the U.S. Army Reserve for six years between 1971 and 1977. I never had to go to combat, but if I were in, today, you know I'd be there because that's where almost all of the Reseves are, now.
So, if you're so damned supportive of our noble troops, why aren't you there helping with the one thing they need more than anything. If you're not willing to go, and you don't have some valid reason not to, you don't get to side step it, this time.
Just like your chicken hawk president and vice president, you're willing to spill a lot of blood and trash a lot of lives... as long as you don't have to do it, yourself. And just like Bush and Cheney, YOU'RE ALL MOUTH AND NO BALLS! :laugh:
Hey, Gaard.
Still keeping that list? Best to be sure charrison is on it. Seems he likes to play games and not answer questions.
Final vote was 403-3 against pulling troops out of Iraq. Seems the only people that want to pull troops out of Iraq are the P&N experts.
this whole debacle is so amazingly stupid. i've been sitting here watching the news with some friends and family and we are all in agreement by how utterly moronic things have gotten.
first of all, this resolution is NOT what the Democrats want at all. everyone can see that, and everyone seems to understand that nobody is calling out for the full withdrawal immediately from Iraq. if the Republicans wanted the Democrats to put up or shutup, they would have put the original Democratic resolution up for a vote. now why didn't they do that.......hmmm I wonder???
first of all, this resolution is NOT what the Democrats want at all. everyone can see that, and everyone seems to understand that nobody is calling out for the full withdrawal immediately from Iraq. if the Republicans wanted the Democrats to put up or shutup, they would have put the original Democratic resolution up for a vote. now why didn't they do that.......hmmm I wonder???
Name me the Dems (and back it up with proof) that want an IMMEDIATE PULLOUT of all troops back to the U.S. (which I assume this resolution means). And I mean IMMEDIATE...not a gradual withdrawal.
When's the last time you visited an optometrist?
UglyCasanova
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Conjur and his games.
I'm sure no Democratic politician would vote for an immediate withdrawal from Iraq, that would of course be absurd. But reading through P&N many of you Democrats (or liberals, because some of you don't tie yourselfs to the Democratic party) seem to be in favor of an immediate withdrawal. I'm not sure if that is just some of you venting frustration at this administration and war (and there is a lot to vent), but reading through the threads on Iraq, which 99% of the threads in P&N eventually turn into, it seems to me that an immediate withdrawal is the general opinion of everyone.
But like I said, I am talking about P&N politicians here, not real life ones.
I'm sure no Democratic politician would vote for an immediate withdrawal from Iraq, that would of course be absurd. But reading through P&N many of you Democrats (or liberals, because some of you don't tie yourselfs to the Democratic party) seem to be in favor of an immediate withdrawal. I'm not sure if that is just some of you venting frustration at this administration and war (and there is a lot to vent
), but reading through the threads on Iraq, which 99% of the threads in P&N eventually turn into, it seems to me that an immediate withdrawal is the general opinion of everyone.But like I said, I am talking about P&N politicians here, not real life ones.
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