Steeplerot
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The american public is already tired of reps sleazy games and this sleazy war. Thus the "present" vote.
A german mine that, when tripped, shot out of the ground to chest height and then exploded, sending BB's around in a sort of 360 degree claymore mine. Very deadly.
glenn1
Lifer
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You didn't answer my question. Do you think the Democratic party would have the support of the American people if you voted to pull out the troops in six months? It's a very easy binary question. IMHO, if you tried your side would be absolutely crucified in the next elections.
Steeplerot
Lifer
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Is it time for U.S. troops to be withdrawn from Iraq?
Yes 67%
No 33%
From the front page of cnn right now, sorry it is you are in a shrinking minority.
Oh well, empty barrels make the most noise right?
The support for the iraq war is the thing being absolutely crucified glenn1.
I was just about to post that.... you have to remember, glenn1 is a True Believer(TM), like Pabsy and Zendari. They have their blinders on when it comes to the Iraq War, the Economy, anything that might reflect unfavorably on their Lord and Savior.
Steeplerot
Lifer
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Well, I am sure their blind hope that their neocon hero nixon would be avenged comes into play also, too bad.
Sucks it took so long for good americans to wake up though.
Some are hopelessly lost though, I dunno what these hardliners are going to do with themselves after, probaly follow around whatever non-right-wing president is next and try to smear them again in a stalkerfest.
Sucks it took so long for good americans to wake up though.
Some are hopelessly lost though, I dunno what these hardliners are going to do with themselves after, probaly follow around whatever non-right-wing president is next and try to smear them again in a stalkerfest.
From glenn1-
"Go for it if you think you have the support of the American people on that. So much better to get your votes on the record. I double dog dare you."
and-
"You didn't answer my question. Do you think the Democratic party would have the support of the American people if you voted to pull out the troops in six months? It's a very easy binary question. IMHO, if you tried your side would be absolutely crucified in the next elections."
Well, apparently the congressional repubs don't have your confidence, glenn1, otherwise they'd allow a vote on Murtha's original bill... they control the agenda. If you're right, they wouldn't need a substitute measure, now would they?
"Go for it if you think you have the support of the American people on that. So much better to get your votes on the record. I double dog dare you."
and-
"You didn't answer my question. Do you think the Democratic party would have the support of the American people if you voted to pull out the troops in six months? It's a very easy binary question. IMHO, if you tried your side would be absolutely crucified in the next elections."
Well, apparently the congressional repubs don't have your confidence, glenn1, otherwise they'd allow a vote on Murtha's original bill... they control the agenda. If you're right, they wouldn't need a substitute measure, now would they?
Steeplerot
Lifer
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From glenn1-
"Then go for it. Let's see how the numbers look when you get done, and the abstract question of "should the troops be withdrawn" becomes a concrete question of how do we do it and the reality what's being proposed starts hitting people."
Can't, and that's been pointed out repeatedly, and repeatedly ignored on your part. The repubs control the agenda in the HOR, and simply won't allow a vote on Murtha's original resolution. Why Not?
"Then go for it. Let's see how the numbers look when you get done, and the abstract question of "should the troops be withdrawn" becomes a concrete question of how do we do it and the reality what's being proposed starts hitting people."
Can't, and that's been pointed out repeatedly, and repeatedly ignored on your part. The repubs control the agenda in the HOR, and simply won't allow a vote on Murtha's original resolution. Why Not?
Seems he already did respond and he would be talking about Murtha, not to mention other far left democrats like Kucinich.
Seems to be a common problem lately with the leftists, especially when it comes to the issue of what was said regarding Iraq.
Shuxclams
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Murtha is far left? Murtha is and always has been a Hawk, this is crap, pure and simple crap... "shock and awe" tactics penned last week for this weeks "agenda" or talking points as it were. Anything or anybody that states the facts.. like this war is a disaster is obviously leftist..... its crap. The congress should get on with the work of the people and stop with this horseshit politcal one upsmanshit...
Then again they voted out a bunch of programs for the poor and want to extend tex reductions for the wealthy......... Hell let em fight.
SHUX
HAHAHAHAHA!!! Kucinich just pulled a dean on c-span. He went ranting and wailing on. It was great. Nothing like showing how just much of a raving loon you are to the public.
Steeplerot
Lifer
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Kucinich just pwnd the reps on the floor, watching on cspan, what a sleaze tactic from the right.
by the way sog, the public opinion is behind Kucinich and what he said, and people are PISSED.
Glad he stood up and told these scum the truth, truth to power spoken powerfully.
by the way sog, the public opinion is behind Kucinich and what he said, and people are PISSED.
Glad he stood up and told these scum the truth, truth to power spoken powerfully.
I'm sure people like you ate up his little loony rant. I wonder how it would play on real TV, not just c-span.:laugh:
Come on Democrats, show us what you feel about this issue, quit hiding your real feelings. Sure, we have elections coming up next year, but come on, show people how you believe and feel. :laugh:
Sounds about right since Kucinich is one of the most passionate, honest politicians out there, right along side Howard Dean. And I'd rather have someone who loves his country raising his voice them some sleazy ex-CEO telling his peers, "Fvck you."
Steeplerot
Lifer
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He said how the majority of americans feel, sucks you are foolish enough to think americans are too cowardly to demand accountability from this failed administrations policys.
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