homercles337
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Originally posted by: tfinch2
They also teach you in junior high the Civil War was caused by slavery...
WTF?
Originally posted by: tfinch2
They also teach you in junior high the Civil War was caused by slavery...
Originally posted by: episodic
You tossed it out there - you said the photo was for the viewer. Most viewers would regard the sunset - the sun specifically - in this photo to be the center - as I intended.
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: episodic
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: iamaelephant
Originally posted by: homercles337
I remember when i was in junior high and took a photography class. One of the first things we were taught was concerning composition. The simple rule being DONT SPLIT YOUR IMAGE WITH THE HORIZON. Either focus on the sky or ground as your subject. There now, you know too.
And why not? If a photo looks good (which is totally subjective) why do some arbitrary rules about composition matter? That's a load of crap. Anyone who gives you strict rules for composing a piece of art isn't worth listening to.
OP, I really liked you first picture. Can't look at your flickr thing because I don't have a Yahoo account.
Learn ONE or TWO things about photography. The point is that you dont want a "divisive eye." Composing a photograph involves the viewer. Do you want to draw the eye to the ground or sky? What is the SUBJECT of your photograph? If you cant figure this out then so be it, youre a "cliker" not a photographer.
Isn't your eye drawn to the sunset? I mean the sun was my focus.
Clicky click.
Originally posted by: episodic
Originally posted by: beemercer
Originally posted by: episodic
Hmm, I took another today - maybe this will meet with expectations
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=300551424&size=l
It wants me to sign in.
Woops here it goes. . .
http://static.flickr.com/102/300551424_6be195040a_b.jpg
Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: episodic
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: iamaelephant
Originally posted by: homercles337
I remember when i was in junior high and took a photography class. One of the first things we were taught was concerning composition. The simple rule being DONT SPLIT YOUR IMAGE WITH THE HORIZON. Either focus on the sky or ground as your subject. There now, you know too.
And why not? If a photo looks good (which is totally subjective) why do some arbitrary rules about composition matter? That's a load of crap. Anyone who gives you strict rules for composing a piece of art isn't worth listening to.
OP, I really liked you first picture. Can't look at your flickr thing because I don't have a Yahoo account.
Learn ONE or TWO things about photography. The point is that you dont want a "divisive eye." Composing a photograph involves the viewer. Do you want to draw the eye to the ground or sky? What is the SUBJECT of your photograph? If you cant figure this out then so be it, youre a "cliker" not a photographer.
Isn't your eye drawn to the sunset? I mean the sun was my focus.
Clicky click.
Wow, way to come off as a jerk.
Composition "rules" are not really rules to me...more guidelines. Sometimes an excellent photo will break every "rule."
I don't always use the "rule of thirds" though it can be a helpful guideline for some compositions.
To the OP - don't listen to this jerk. Although I don't think that your photo is all that wonderful, at least you are out there working at it. It's the only way you will get better.
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: episodic
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: iamaelephant
Originally posted by: homercles337
I remember when i was in junior high and took a photography class. One of the first things we were taught was concerning composition. The simple rule being DONT SPLIT YOUR IMAGE WITH THE HORIZON. Either focus on the sky or ground as your subject. There now, you know too.
And why not? If a photo looks good (which is totally subjective) why do some arbitrary rules about composition matter? That's a load of crap. Anyone who gives you strict rules for composing a piece of art isn't worth listening to.
OP, I really liked you first picture. Can't look at your flickr thing because I don't have a Yahoo account.
Learn ONE or TWO things about photography. The point is that you dont want a "divisive eye." Composing a photograph involves the viewer. Do you want to draw the eye to the ground or sky? What is the SUBJECT of your photograph? If you cant figure this out then so be it, youre a "cliker" not a photographer.
Isn't your eye drawn to the sunset? I mean the sun was my focus.
Clicky click.
Wow, way to come off as a jerk.
Composition "rules" are not really rules to me...more guidelines. Sometimes an excellent photo will break every "rule."
I don't always use the "rule of thirds" though it can be a helpful guideline for some compositions.
To the OP - don't listen to this jerk. Although I don't think that your photo is all that wonderful, at least you are out there working at it. It's the only way you will get better.
Hey n00b, learn the definition of constructive criticism. This clicky is crappy. Care to post any "excellent photos" that break every "rule?" Yea, i didnt think so...
Originally posted by: episodic
Well crud, I was really thinking that this one was good. I liked the lens flare. . .
Originally posted by: homercles337
Hey n00b, learn the definition of constructive criticism. This clicky is crappy. Care to post any "excellent photos" that break every "rule?" Yea, i didnt think so...
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: episodic
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: iamaelephant
Originally posted by: homercles337
I remember when i was in junior high and took a photography class. One of the first things we were taught was concerning composition. The simple rule being DONT SPLIT YOUR IMAGE WITH THE HORIZON. Either focus on the sky or ground as your subject. There now, you know too.
And why not? If a photo looks good (which is totally subjective) why do some arbitrary rules about composition matter? That's a load of crap. Anyone who gives you strict rules for composing a piece of art isn't worth listening to.
OP, I really liked you first picture. Can't look at your flickr thing because I don't have a Yahoo account.
Learn ONE or TWO things about photography. The point is that you dont want a "divisive eye." Composing a photograph involves the viewer. Do you want to draw the eye to the ground or sky? What is the SUBJECT of your photograph? If you cant figure this out then so be it, youre a "cliker" not a photographer.
Isn't your eye drawn to the sunset? I mean the sun was my focus.
Clicky click.
Wow, way to come off as a jerk.
Composition "rules" are not really rules to me...more guidelines. Sometimes an excellent photo will break every "rule."
I don't always use the "rule of thirds" though it can be a helpful guideline for some compositions.
To the OP - don't listen to this jerk. Although I don't think that your photo is all that wonderful, at least you are out there working at it. It's the only way you will get better.
Hey n00b, learn the definition of constructive criticism. This clicky is crappy. Care to post any "excellent photos" that break every "rule?" Yea, i didnt think so...
Originally posted by: episodic
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: episodic
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: iamaelephant
Originally posted by: homercles337
I remember when i was in junior high and took a photography class. One of the first things we were taught was concerning composition. The simple rule being DONT SPLIT YOUR IMAGE WITH THE HORIZON. Either focus on the sky or ground as your subject. There now, you know too.
And why not? If a photo looks good (which is totally subjective) why do some arbitrary rules about composition matter? That's a load of crap. Anyone who gives you strict rules for composing a piece of art isn't worth listening to.
OP, I really liked you first picture. Can't look at your flickr thing because I don't have a Yahoo account.
Learn ONE or TWO things about photography. The point is that you dont want a "divisive eye." Composing a photograph involves the viewer. Do you want to draw the eye to the ground or sky? What is the SUBJECT of your photograph? If you cant figure this out then so be it, youre a "cliker" not a photographer.
Isn't your eye drawn to the sunset? I mean the sun was my focus.
Clicky click.
Wow, way to come off as a jerk.
Composition "rules" are not really rules to me...more guidelines. Sometimes an excellent photo will break every "rule."
I don't always use the "rule of thirds" though it can be a helpful guideline for some compositions.
To the OP - don't listen to this jerk. Although I don't think that your photo is all that wonderful, at least you are out there working at it. It's the only way you will get better.
Hey n00b, learn the definition of constructive criticism. This clicky is crappy. Care to post any "excellent photos" that break every "rule?" Yea, i didnt think so...
Look at the third pic down - vertical break - rule of thirds - practically like mine only different focus.
http://www.thedailyshooter.com/article/Composition+Part+I+:+The+Rule+of+Thirds
This composition also positions the horizon right along the top third. Landscape photographers will often place the horizon on the top or bottom thirds of the frame for maximum impact.
Originally posted by: chrisg22
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: episodic
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: iamaelephant
Originally posted by: homercles337
I remember when i was in junior high and took a photography class. One of the first things we were taught was concerning composition. The simple rule being DONT SPLIT YOUR IMAGE WITH THE HORIZON. Either focus on the sky or ground as your subject. There now, you know too.
And why not? If a photo looks good (which is totally subjective) why do some arbitrary rules about composition matter? That's a load of crap. Anyone who gives you strict rules for composing a piece of art isn't worth listening to.
OP, I really liked you first picture. Can't look at your flickr thing because I don't have a Yahoo account.
Learn ONE or TWO things about photography. The point is that you dont want a "divisive eye." Composing a photograph involves the viewer. Do you want to draw the eye to the ground or sky? What is the SUBJECT of your photograph? If you cant figure this out then so be it, youre a "cliker" not a photographer.
Isn't your eye drawn to the sunset? I mean the sun was my focus.
Clicky click.
Wow, way to come off as a jerk.
Composition "rules" are not really rules to me...more guidelines. Sometimes an excellent photo will break every "rule."
I don't always use the "rule of thirds" though it can be a helpful guideline for some compositions.
To the OP - don't listen to this jerk. Although I don't think that your photo is all that wonderful, at least you are out there working at it. It's the only way you will get better.
Hey n00b, learn the definition of constructive criticism. This clicky is crappy. Care to post any "excellent photos" that break every "rule?" Yea, i didnt think so...
Since you are an expert photographer, let's see some of your pics? I think the picture isn't the best that I have seen, but I see no problem with "splitting the horizon" in this case. The flare is a bit much, however.
Originally posted by: homercles337
I NEVER made the claim that im an "expert photographer." Sh!t, im not even a photographer (the best camera i own is part of my SDA), but i do understand GENERAL principles. I also know the difference between clicky, click and a photograph that took some time to frame. What dont you understand here? This is VERY basic stuff.
Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Hey Homercles why don't you put up some of your award-winning follow-all-the-rules photos?
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Hey Homercles why don't you put up some of your award-winning follow-all-the-rules photos?
Hey n00b, why dont you read the thread before posting?
With a username like FilmCamera you are awfully dense about SIMPLE rules of composition. Many of the pics in your links above actually apply these simple rules, the others just suck.
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Hey Homercles why don't you put up some of your award-winning follow-all-the-rules photos?
Hey n00b, why dont you read the thread before posting?
With a username like FilmCamera you are awfully dense about SIMPLE rules of composition. Many of the pics in your links above actually apply these simple rules, the others just suck.
Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Originally posted by: homercles337
Hey n00b, learn the definition of constructive criticism. This clicky is crappy. Care to post any "excellent photos" that break every "rule?" Yea, i didnt think so...
noob? lol whatever man. There's a difference between constructive criticism and being a jerk. You're obviously the latter.
http://photoinf.com/General/Gloria_Hopk..._Articles_-_Breaking_all_the_Rules.htm
http://www.pbase.com/reddishtiger/image/68448512
http://www.pbase.com/nordic/image/68435326
http://www.pbase.com/nickythurgar/image/68441314/medium%5B/img%5D
http://www.pbase.com/jswaters/image/68445083
(NSFW slight nudity in the following link)
http://www.theonlinephotographer.blogsp...6/great-photographers-on-internet.html
http://www.pbase.com/image/68432604
*Note that not all of these are superb awesome photos. I have seen plenty of them in galleries though...but I can't exaclty go take a photo of them and put them online now can I?
Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Hey Homercles why don't you put up some of your award-winning follow-all-the-rules photos?
Hey n00b, why dont you read the thread before posting?
With a username like FilmCamera you are awfully dense about SIMPLE rules of composition. Many of the pics in your links above actually apply these simple rules, the others just suck.
Perhaps you should try reading.
I actually posted that comment before your other post was listed.
I know that those photos are not the greatest photos in the world, but no they do not follow all the "rules" and you should read the satire one as it has photos from some quite famous photogs.
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Hey, why don't you read the thread and respond to the response FilmCamera gave you earlier to your challenge?
Originally posted by: chrisg22
It looks like we have a case of someone who reads books and thinks that they know everything. Honestly it's pointless arguing with someone like this.
A person who claims to not even be a photographer calls FilmCamera a noob regarding photography, who has actually posted photographs that he has taken, which are pretty good.
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Hey Homercles why don't you put up some of your award-winning follow-all-the-rules photos?
Hey n00b, why dont you read the thread before posting?
With a username like FilmCamera you are awfully dense about SIMPLE rules of composition. Many of the pics in your links above actually apply these simple rules, the others just suck.
Perhaps you should try reading.
I actually posted that comment before your other post was listed.
I know that those photos are not the greatest photos in the world, but no they do not follow all the "rules" and you should read the satire one as it has photos from some quite famous photogs.
Hey n00b, you dont get it do you? The OP posted a sh!tty clicky, click masquerading as a quality photo that could have been signifcantly improved by following the simpliest rules. That is my tenent and has been since post #1. Can the simple rules be broken, of course you dope (however based on your links i doubt you even understand the BASICS). Should the rules have been broken with the OPs sh!tty clicky, click? No. There is a reason that rules are used 99% of the time. So n00b, how about some links to your astonishing clicky, clicks where you break the simple rules?
Originally posted by: chrisg22
It looks like we have a case of someone who reads books and thinks that they know everything. Honestly it's pointless arguing with someone like this.