A little food log for myself

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Tuesday, I got a dental cleaning and a cavity filling. That filling has pushed me further in dedicating my diet to be strictly the tooth-friendliest at all costs because I spent a lot of time flossing and brushing just to still get a cavity. Long COVID didn't help, as it brought my energy even lower.

So, between the time of Tuesday afteroon(Sept 28, 2021) and today(Oct 1, 2021), these are the totality of foods I have eaten:
2 boxes of store caesar salad,. croutons and sauce uneaten. Lettuce and chicken were eaten.
2 strips of old uncured bacon. (Applegate)
3lbs of ground beef.

And that's it so far. Might grab some blackberries later tonight.

As an aside, my sleep cycle has been utter shit but I am surprising clear mentally.
 

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Best of luck. I would up the greens some more if you are focusing particularly on feeding the good bacteria in your mouth. Otherwise, just avoiding processed food as much as possible is a big win.
 

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Drinks will be basic. I'll stick to plain water. It seems like I've been able to kick the sweet drink habit.

Last night's midnight dinner.
6oz blackberries. Bought at a big discount of $0.86 for 6 oz. Also read up that some study in which blackberry extract apparently has antibiotic effects on certain bad bacteria.
2 celery hearts, raw.
Guacamole. The most spice-ridden and acid-ridden food. Eaten until taste buds were rendered ineffective.
Three bites of cheddar cheese.

Today's current intake so far.

6 strips of uncured bacon.
About one half block of Cathedral City, Extra Mature cheddar.

No concerns about weight for me. At 6ft, 120lbs. I'm actually a little underweight but I've never starved myself to get to the point. I've always been able to eat whatever I want.
 

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I ate one more celery heart and 5 plain pork chops, with some salt(for the iodine) for seasoning for the day's dinner.

I'll probably start tomorrow off with a can of King Oscar extra virgin olive oil sardines.
 

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Drinks will be basic. I'll stick to plain water. It seems like I've been able to kick the sweet drink habit.

Last night's midnight dinner.
6oz blackberries. Bought at a big discount of $0.86 for 6 oz. Also read up that some study in which blackberry extract apparently has antibiotic effects on certain bad bacteria.
2 celery hearts, raw.
Guacamole. The most spice-ridden and acid-ridden food. Eaten until taste buds were rendered ineffective.
Three bites of cheddar cheese.

Today's current intake so far.

6 strips of uncured bacon.
About one half block of Cathedral City, Extra Mature cheddar.

No concerns about weight for me. At 6ft, 120lbs. I'm actually a little underweight but I've never starved myself to get to the point. I've always been able to eat whatever I want.
6 foot and 120lb?

You better start mainlining pork belly. That's too skinny.
 

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6 foot and 120lb?

You better start mainlining pork belly. That's too skinny.
I can stand to add some pounds of muscle, yes. All other functions are a champ though. I love eating but I must have both a killer metabolism and a small appetite. Even when sedentary and inactive, I have not fattened up even back when I ate whatever I liked and preferred. I never liked the soda or the Ho-Hos level of food that much, but I did like the "better" sugar and starch ridden foods. Some Muscle Milk, and tomato-derived products like Spaghettios attracts me like a fly to a dead carcass. Was not much of a cake or cheese guy during that time.

I would up vitamin D deficient a couple years ago but ate my way out of it two months later. All other blood work turned out normal
 

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1 can of King Oscar sardines in extra virgin olive oil
1 16 ox of mozzerlla cheese
11 wontons with turkey ground meat, some seasame oil seasoning. Had to clean things up afterwards because wonton wrappers are a flour product.

Ate some raw erythritol due to supposed antibacterial benefits, and a bunch of xylitol gum.
 

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For 10/4/2021
About 3/5th of 7oz of Cathedral Cheddar Cheese
Three bacon strips. Two in the afternoon, one in the evening.
7 Strawberries, pre-cut so they could be swallowed without chewing.

This is the first time in my life I am routinely eating cheese. Had a bad experience with Mac and Cheese and generally avoided it ever since.

Sometime in the future, I might experiment melting 100 chocolate and mixing it either erythritol or xylitol for a custom snack, but I will wait for a sale on the chocolate.
 

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I didn't come in here to shit on some guys food log, but Jesus this reads like a 6 year old just decided to try out grocery shopping. Do you not eat any actual meals? Why are you eating at midnight? Why are you going through such unnecessary bullshit like not chewing your strawberries?

You aren't eating enough food, period. Your blood work may be fine but I suspect you have almost no muscle mass because your body has cannabalized itself. You are eating foods that will kill you much faster than gum disease and cavities.

Eat smartly, eat whole foods, chew the shit out of your foods, brush and floss after eating carb heavy meals, avoid excessive simple sugar and moderate overall carb intake (moderate means probably 1.5-2g per lb of body weight).

You're trying to change a problem that is not the circumstance for your cavities.
 

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I didn't come in here to shit on some guys food log, but Jesus this reads like a 6 year old just decided to try out grocery shopping. Do you not eat any actual meals? Why are you eating at midnight? Why are you going through such unnecessary bullshit like not chewing your strawberries?

You aren't eating enough food, period. Your blood work may be fine but I suspect you have almost no muscle mass because your body has cannabalized itself. You are eating foods that will kill you much faster than gum disease and cavities.

Eat smartly, eat whole foods, chew the shit out of your foods, brush and floss after eating carb heavy meals, avoid excessive simple sugar and moderate overall carb intake (moderate means probably 1.5-2g per lb of body weight).

You're trying to change a problem that is not the circumstance for your cavities.
If you want the Cliffnotes: I picked anti-"specific bacterial" foods and a source of vitamin C to have strong immune response against the pathogens, and a pursuit of a complete micronutrient profile.

The "kill you faster" has an implicit basis that someone is usually overweight and has maladjusted eating. Not the case with yours truly. If family history is anything, colon cancer will be the end of me before anything else.

I'd like to know what superstitious nonsense you are spouting that sucrose is not a cause of cavities when streptococcus mutans has been observed producing the biofilm polysaccharide from it. Oh, perhaps the sugar industry's paid studies has led you to think somehow carbs need to be eaten like those diabetic piggies, who literally piss sweet urine.

Meats contain arginine and no fuel for the bad bacterium that loves sucrose. That rationale is sound.

There is no cannibalization, because you cannot seem to see the fact that this recent diet is quite lavish in protein, and thus it would be a tall order for muscle cannibalization to occur. The hormones won't be out of order with the steady of supply of fats. Nor will the cell membranes as I aim for a 1-to-1 ratio of saturated to monounsaturated intake to obtain the mix of strength and permeability for the cell membrane.
There won't be major change but rather shift to other meats, perhaps some liver once in a while for micronutrients, and more sardines for the vital DHA and other omega-3s.

Furthermore, I don't eat much on rest days because the constant stream of plain, unsugary and unstarchy foods combined with a sufficient amount of saturated fat makes me hit satiation sooner. The salt can make meats a little more palatable but under normal circumstances, 3 strips of bacon is enough unless I'm really strained.

The small allocation of fruit is for the inhibition of binging on sugary foods, consumption of vitamin C without resorting to a supplement, and to reel in some micronutrients efficiently. A modification from the previous six months where I ultimately fell into bringing carb-based foods far too often, even some whole-grain oats and pasta. With a dabble of fruits containing sugar, I can feel mentally sharp and not crave even the likes of rice or noodles, because I'm a weak motherfucker when it comes to resisting.

Whole foods is pretty much what I have been eating. There is nothing different from eating even whole grains and taking a glucose pill plus other supplemental nutrients. The only purpose of carbohydrates is to do physical labor; it is the laborer's macro. The micros can be obtain elsewhere, thus leaving the carbohydrate-based food only purpose as providing quick energy. This is why hockey players can devour loads of processed carbs and sweets and get away with it; but normal people cannot. If there wasn't fortification, even whole grains would be more useless for micros than they already are.

Plus, you can notice there is no processed seed vegetable oil in this diet, just the extra virgin olive oil that comes with the sardines(which is higher than bottom-of-the-barrel, brands like King Oscar or Wild Planet are what I select).

The reason I don't have muscle mass is because I've been forced to be sedentary and don't have the time to work out like a bourgeois fella. I'm capable of endurance activities even with this extremely low weight, and always has been.

I have no issues except periodontal disease. If I wanted foods with no inhibitions, I'd be eating rice and flour-based foods, some Powerade, and stuff. The mix of starchy but not Twinkie-level mix of Chinese and American foods. The foods I used to eat would be orange juice/Gatorade/Muscle Milk level of bad, meaning some nutrients would be there but with copious amounts of starch/sugar.

I eat until satiation. I do not believe in "dieting", only satisfaction. But I don't want to lose my teeth at 50 nor do I constantly want to do the "dental litany" that eating carbs entails, which is immediate brushing, flossing, interdental brushes and Waterpiking afterwards. Then the double brushing with baking soda for one round and then toothpaste for another. I spent many hours doing that from May till September, and somehow still got a filling, which got me really fired up.



I post at midnight, I eat during the day whenever hunger strikes. And if I want to fatten myself up, I've got some artificial grape and tomato-based foods I can easy go into, as those two things are my favorite flavors. Being Chinese, nearly everything that's eaten has some starch component to the meal, most often rice, but quite fancy pasta as well because tomato-based is a heaven for my taste buds. Plus, I wouldn't be surprised if Chinese have some evolutionary resistance to high sugar intake and gaining weight, since sugar piss disease(aka diabetes, that is a literal translation) was recorded in ancient society thousands of years ago.

Weight has been irrelevant to my psyche and you're not going to change that. And my testosterone is not a problem either. I've got plenty of regular guy things, like a feisty attitude and a sexual impulses that are very well in order.
 

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10/5
2 cans of sardines
3 strips of bacon
4 oz mozzarella cheese
5 strawberries(smaller)
1 pork chop

10/6
1 can of sardines
8 strawberries
Approximate 3oz mozzarella cheese
A bowl of celery
 

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10/5
2 cans of sardines (50P / 30F / 0C)
3 strips of bacon (9P / 9F / 0C)
4 oz mozzarella cheese (32P / 20F / 4C)
5 strawberries(smaller) (0P/ 0F/ 5C)
1 pork chop (52P / 31F / 0C)

Total 143P / 90F / 9C = 1400kCal

10/6
1 can of sardines (25P / 15F / 0C)
8 strawberries (0P / 0F / 8C)
Approximate 3oz mozzarella cheese (24P/ 15F / 3C)
A bowl of celery (0P / 0F / 0C)

Total 49P / 30F / 11C = 510kCal

I wish you the best of luck. This is not healthy in any sense of the word.

Final question before I get out of this thread, how old are you?
 

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Total 49P / 30F / 11C = 510kCal

I wish you the best of luck. This is not healthy in any sense of the word.

Final question before I get out of this thread, how old are you?
32 and more than a half.

It is counterintuitive to you; maybe you can’t fathom a male size zero existing. Most people eat starches that balloon their appetite. I actually can get away with starch eating and still log 120-125. So now that starches are gone, I expect to not lose weight either.

The pads on on my fingertips and toes are nicely filled with fat, indicating that I not in a state where those stores have been used up.

I sat on my ass the past two days, eating bland stuffy food. Intake went down because with all the meat intake in the days prior my body did not want more red meat for yesterday.

Sitting on my ass means I don’t need 2000 calories like conventional wisdom dictates.

I also doubt I’ll lose weight, because I can eat much more if I want the protein. Last week, I did much more physical labor, which is why one day, I ate five pork chops for dinner. No breading or anything on those pork chops.


The only unhealthy I am in is sleep deprivation.

As an aside, the celery was fried in the leftover bacon oil. Fiber and saturated fats really kill appetite.
 

deadlyapp

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32 and more than a half.

It is counterintuitive to you; maybe you can’t fathom a male size zero existing. Most people eat starches that balloon their appetite. I actually can get away with starch eating and still log 120-125. So now that starches are gone, I expect to not lose weight either.

The pads on on my fingertips and toes are nicely filled with fat, indicating that I not in a state where those stores have been used up.

I sat on my ass the past two days, eating bland stuffy food. Intake went down because with all the meat intake in the days prior my body did not want more red meat for yesterday.

Sitting on my ass means I don’t need 2000 calories like conventional wisdom dictates.

I also doubt I’ll lose weight, because I can eat much more if I want the protein. Last week, I did much more physical labor, which is why one day, I ate five pork chops for dinner. No breading or anything on those pork chops.


The only unhealthy I am in is sleep deprivation.

As an aside, the celery was fried in the leftover bacon oil. Fiber and saturated fats really kill appetite.
There is far more than can be covered in a thread in regards to your health and the long term effects of a sedentary lifestyle as well as what you view as healthy. Perhaps your blood panels adequately cover hormone health, maybe they don't - but if you feel constantly fatigued, low motivation, low or no sex drive - that is certainly one effect of not eating properly. You may feel full, but satiety and adequate amount of nutrition are not one and the same. Your long term health being underweight and likely with low or no muscle mass will simply make it more likely for you to be frail as you continue to age. Your sedentary lifestyle, while not causing you to be obese like many in similar circumstances, will only add to the likelihood of comorbidity as you age.

You also seem to simply not understand nutrition and nutrient absorption. Your body can only truly benefit from about 30-40g of protein in a single sitting. Any more than that, you're just going to excrete it out. In addition all you do is put huge stress on your kidneys when it is tasked with handling that extent of protein.

Again, you're not seeing the forest for the trees. Cavities happen, especially as we age, even with perfect oral habits and nutrition. You're overly caught up in trying to fix something you are identifying as a major issue while you have many other things that are much more of a detriment to your long term health.
 

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There is far more than can be covered in a thread in regards to your health and the long term effects of a sedentary lifestyle as well as what you view as healthy. Perhaps your blood panels adequately cover hormone health, maybe they don't - but if you feel constantly fatigued, low motivation, low or no sex drive - that is certainly one effect of not eating properly. You may feel full, but satiety and adequate amount of nutrition are not one and the same. Your long term health being underweight and likely with low or no muscle mass will simply make it more likely for you to be frail as you continue to age. Your sedentary lifestyle, while not causing you to be obese like many in similar circumstances, will only add to the likelihood of comorbidity as you age.

You also seem to simply not understand nutrition and nutrient absorption. Your body can only truly benefit from about 30-40g of protein in a single sitting. Any more than that, you're just going to excrete it out. In addition all you do is put huge stress on your kidneys when it is tasked with handling that extent of protein.

Again, you're not seeing the forest for the trees. Cavities happen, especially as we age, even with perfect oral habits and nutrition. You're overly caught up in trying to fix something you are identifying as a major issue while you have many other things that are much more of a detriment to your long term health.
There is nothing minor about the wrong types of teeth bacteria starting an infection and then that affecting quality of life. I intend to battle them and come out victorious and incidentally improve my vitamin intake in the process.

My sex drive is just fine. You intentionally misread that I stated there are no problems. I'm as horny as ever. I see girls worthy of Maxim, the response biologically is there.

I stated I modified the tweaks I implemented over 6 months ago to manage perio by a diet change. Rather than completely strip sucrose out, I limit to foods in which I will obtain numerous vitamins and minerals for the cost of consuming it, thereby killing the cravings for cakes and eclairs I experience before Sept 28.

I'll take the chances of kidney failure over the dementia and colon cancer my grandmother has or the abnormalities my mother has.

Extra protein gets converted into glucose or fat. With my relatively low intake, I am likely going to be burning the excess energy.

The only two reason to exercise for non-athletes is to fuck better and to avoid having to pay someone else to lift things(very useful things, don't get me wrong). There is no point of pride in running a marathon for most normal people living normal lives. They are just wasting food and resources. And they probably overeat shit anyway, likely not even knowing they have celiac disease.

The only crisis I have is a lack of strength. You make it seem like I'll crash and burn in a fire at 50. When there is less chaos and legal matters, I can start pumping iron and probably put on another 10 pounds of lean muscle the few biomechanical matters I have. But my internals are intact .

I don't need to be proseltyize by those who take a wee bit too much stock in a domain of study where corruption has influenced the current dogma for decades. The real reason carbohydrates are not stigmatized and even elevated as the best macro is because it's fundamental to corporate profits. And not just American food. They majority of stuff in the Chinese supermarket are starch or sugar based.
 

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10 strawberries(finishing the 16oz package)
1 Wild planet sardine can
8 oz Galbani Mozzarella cheese
1 thin sliced pork chop
1 thin-sliced chicken breast.
 

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Forgot to mention I finished some leftovers of the celery.

Today so far
1 6oz container of blackberries.
A little seaweed
One sweet and spicy anchovy(Mom bought for herself, box had no ingredients, it was quite spicy away.

And the diet will be no longer following the previous trends for 10 days as I have consumed my first tablet of amoxicillin around 4:54pm today. Without gut bacteria, my Asian lactose intolerance means no more dairy for 10 days, and lower calcium intake to prevent interference.

Went to the NIH to get the screening for wisdom teeth removal. The one doing the quick exam noted my gums were infected. Meanwhile, the dentist I got the cleaning on 9/28 from merely said my gums were "much improved"(yes, they were much worse then, but I have a hunch she wasn't quite expecting it or wanting that outcome) and that I didn't need hexadine mouthwash or anything else out the door. The amoxicillin I do have is from the tribulations from April. The 9/28 dentist was liberal enough to give a refill for the April incident. A sort of passively negligent way of keeping business, and thus I wanted out even back in April, but the other potential solutions were also predatory. I could certainly feel it as the Waterpik triggered pain and I could not stick an interdental bush into the gap. And the dentist did blow off some tartar.
 

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Forgot to mention I finished some leftovers of the celery.

Today so far
1 6oz container of blackberries.
A little seaweed
One sweet and spicy anchovy(Mom bought for herself, box had no ingredients, it was quite spicy away.

And the diet will be no longer following the previous trends for 10 days as I have consumed my first tablet of amoxicillin around 4:54pm today. Without gut bacteria, my Asian lactose intolerance means no more dairy for 10 days, and lower calcium intake to prevent interference.

Went to the NIH to get the screening for wisdom teeth removal. The one doing the quick exam noted my gums were infected. Meanwhile, the dentist I got the cleaning on 9/28 from merely said my gums were "much improved"(yes, they were much worse then, but I have a hunch she wasn't quite expecting it or wanting that outcome) and that I didn't need hexadine mouthwash or anything else out the door. The amoxicillin I do have is from the tribulations from April. The 9/28 dentist was liberal enough to give a refill for the April incident. A sort of passively negligent way of keeping business, and thus I wanted out even back in April, but the other potential solutions were also predatory. I could certainly feel it as the Waterpik triggered pain and I could not stick an interdental bush into the gap. And the dentist did blow off some tartar.

You never finished your antibiotics course from an infection in April? That might be why your gums are still infected.
 

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You never finished your antibiotics course from an infection in April? That might be why your gums are still infected.
It was a refill that I didn't even know I had. The original course was consumed and finished.

I had a second course from a different dentist late April as well.
 

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10/9
1 can of Wild Planet EVOO sardines with lemon.
3/4 of a bag of macaroni with Barilla pasta sauce. 1/2 first, then 1/4 at night
7/8 of a can of "coconut milk". So old the fat separated from the water. Don't like coconut much between it was sitting around.
1 container of ratio Greek yogurt.

So yeah, I broke the streak of starch-free with the macaroni. A hundred grams of carbs.
 

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10/10
6 raspberries out of a 6oz container.
About a bowl Extra firm Tofu+celery with pepper seasoning. Now there's one thing that has no change in recipe. (It's a Chinese dish)
1 piece of hong shao rou(braised pork belly)
1 can of Wild Planet sardines(just water)
Approx 2oz of macaroni with Barilla pasta sauce
Finished up the remaining tofu+celery and the remaining coconut "milk" from yester(just the bottom of the can).

My reacquiatince with starch brings back all the usual effects of eating such foods. Gets the stomach loaded and cramped, but the "thrill" overrides the discomfort. They make sure to leave you hungry soon after consumption. There's also a lot of them in one pound of food. One pound of pasta has 320g of carbohydrates. I've always used saturated fats to kill those hunger pangs, which is likely why I've always had a low non-muscle weight even with no restrictions except to avoid foods I hated(like most cakes and cheese)
 

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10/9
ate three strips of uncured bacon and the remaining hong shao rou(pork belly). Total 6 pcs for the entirety of the day

10/10
1 can of Wild Planet sardines in water
6 raspberries
3 strips of bacon
Approximately 1/5 of a 7oz square of cheddar cheese
1 egg with pasta sauce
Approximately 3oz of Crazy Richard's peanut butter.
The remaining macaroni with pasta sauce(about 2oz of a 16oz package)
 

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30 raspberries(finishing off the 6oz ct)
1 can of Wild Planet sardines in water
3 strips of bacon
Approx 10 spoonfuls of Crazy Richard's crunchy peanut butter. (I get PB that has no other oils is runny, but this PB is really runny)
Approx .5 lb 73/27 ground beef
Approx 4 oz cheese
1 can of coconut cream. (Organics brand from Safeway. This one was much...tastier)
A half bowl lettuce. (Might eat some more right now)
I dunno, a couple tablespoons of garbage adulterated faux "olive" oil that I promptly returned to the store.