A little food log for myself

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Lifer
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16 blackberries
1 can of coconut cream(Thai Kitchen brand).
The remaining half or 5/8 of the peanut butter. (split up between afternoon and night)
Lettuce(one part cooked leftovers from yesterday, then a tray fresh lettuce this night)
The remaining ground beef(6oz?)
 

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Lifer
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10/14
7 blackberries
Bowl of lettuce
1 can of sardines(Wild Planet in EVOO)

5oz of pasta(farfaelle) with pasta sauce
1 strip of bacon
1 can of coconut milk.
 

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All out of fruits on sale. Will be on the lookout for cheap berries when they go on sale again. Will probably have to take vitamin C supplements in the meantime.

So...
Ate some cooked celery. Maybe 2-4oz.
1 can wild Planet sardines(EVOO+lemon)
1 fried pork chop
2 pork chops in pork chop soup(salt and pepper only seasoning)
2oz Farfalle with Spaghetti sauce. Swallowed whole
1oz cheddar cheese.
 

Maxima1

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Are you trying to punish yourself? This diet is lame....

I'd use bacon bits instead and use that in your "salads". But I'd use some kind of dressing as well. Personally like Johnny's Great Caesar for my typical salad, since it's strong in flavor, so you don't have to add that much, and it's not just soybean oil like so many others.

Just canned fish? White fish is super easy to cook and takes seasoning well. Plain pork chops? Why? Are you trying to suppress appetite with blandness?

Again, you're not seeing the forest for the trees. Cavities happen, especially as we age, even with perfect oral habits and nutrition. You're overly caught up in trying to fix something you are identifying as a major issue while you have many other things that are much more of a detriment to your long term health.

I thought he was overreacting too, but then I chuckled when I came across this not that long after viewing this thread.

 

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Lifer
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I suggest adding more diet to his diet!

OP you have an eating disorder.
It's only disordered if I'm doing bullshit like self-starvation or barfing up shit. Or obsessing(orthrexia). None of which apply. I simply eat until satiation, which is much easier to reach when fiber and saturated fats are being stuffed without sugars or simple carbs to "reset" the appetite.

Did eat 140 peanuts around midnight and 95 this morning. Or 1/2 of a 16oz bottle.
 

WelshBloke

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It's only disordered if I'm doing bullshit like self-starvation or barfing up shit. Or obsessing(orthrexia). None of which apply. I simply eat until satiation, which is much easier to reach when fiber and saturated fats are being stuffed without sugars or simple carbs to "reset" the appetite.

Did eat 140 peanuts around midnight and 95 this morning. Or 1/2 of a 16oz bottle.
I mean you're counting how many peanuts you eat.
 

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Lifer
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I mean you're counting how many peanuts you eat.
All in the name of science observation.
It's until I hit the full point. Feels great eating them regardless. Not the case with anorexics, orthorexics, or bulimics.

Just ate some cucumbers in pork chop soup. Ate all of it, whatever the amount was.
 

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Lifer
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Its not normal behaviour.
Logging data is hard work and the folks "upstairs" are taking the easy way out by letting policy be dictated by the power of people's memories. Observational studies and questionnaires about what they eat. Unless they landed a photographic one, the data are inherently flawed.

I somehow went vitamin D deficient two years ago and I have absolutely no recollection of what I ate because I did not care at all back then and thus whatever was being eaten excluded orange juice and milk, which are fortified with vitamin D.
 

WelshBloke

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Logging data is hard work and the folks "upstairs" are taking the easy way out by letting policy be dictated by the power of people's memories. Observational studies and questionnaires about what they eat. Unless they landed a photographic one, the data are inherently flawed.

I somehow went vitamin D deficient two years ago and I have absolutely no recollection of what I ate because I did not care at all back then and thus whatever was being eaten excluded orange juice and milk, which are fortified with vitamin D.
The point is that if you ate a normal diet you wouldnt need to count how many peanuts you ate each day!

Look at the facts.
You are extremely underweight.
You obsesses over what you eat.
You exhibit bizarre behaviour towards food (like swallowing it whole).
You have a weird disconnect between your behaviour and the harm it does you.

I mean its totally your life but what you are doing is not normal or healthy. Or fun.
 

deadlyapp

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The point is that if you ate a normal diet you wouldnt need to count how many peanuts you ate each day!

Look at the facts.
You are extremely underweight.
You obsesses over what you eat.
You exhibit bizarre behaviour towards food (like swallowing it whole).
You have a weird disconnect between your behaviour and the harm it does you.

I mean its totally your life but what you are doing is not normal or healthy. Or fun.
Obsessive compulsive disorder is still a disorder, just doesn't usually manifest itself in eating. But I guess we get to see it on display!
 

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Lifer
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Obsessive compulsive disorder is still a disorder, just doesn't usually manifest itself in eating. But I guess we get to see it on display!
Very funny but pop diagnosis by you well off the mark. It's merely a manifestation of culture that excessive intellectual use is taboo. This basically another form of nerd shaming.

I'd licked residues off tables and a french fry off a carpet. That's the opposite of OCD.
 

UsandThem

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Very funny but pop diagnosis by you well off the mark. It's merely a manifestation of culture that excessive intellectual use is taboo. This basically another form of nerd shaming.

I'd licked residues off tables and a french fry off a carpet. That's the opposite of OCD.
What?!?!

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Lifer
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The point is that if you ate a normal diet you wouldnt need to count how many peanuts you ate each day!

Look at the facts.
You are extremely underweight.
You obsesses over what you eat.
You exhibit bizarre behaviour towards food (like swallowing it whole).
You have a weird disconnect between your behaviour and the harm it does you.

I mean its totally your life but what you are doing is not normal or healthy. Or fun.
The counting was to see how much actually gets eaten rather than restrict what gets eaten. I had eaten pasta earlier last night and I wanted to observe what it took to reach satiation when a starchy meal was eaten hours earlier. I've said it, I have no restricts regarding satiation. You, having probably heard the 100th bulimic and anorexic testimonial, think that I counted to restrict consumption. Anorexics want thinness. I don't care. Bulimics the same. I don't care about that. Orthorexics got some weird food purity stuff. There is nothing to be gained from chasing "purity". Only thing that matters to me...is effectiveness and dealing with actual practical physical matters at hand. Bacterial infections in gums are not good. Being vitamin deficient isn't good either. Having lousy tissue and immune system, not good. Inflammation that is unnecessary, not good. Tried going only meat and vegetables; too hard to maintain. This recent change was in response to the failure to eat only meat and vegetables solid food-wise as I wound up binging starches and sweets.

Getting an abscess this spring and the most recently, a filling despite a much more thorough brushing and care routine indicates further solutions and modifications had to be engineered to make such efforts worthwhile and effective.

The only reason I'm underweight is lack of muscular strength training and biological tuning. I've metabolized stuff very fast regardless of what I consumed; the only way I will be able to gain weight is through increasing muscle mass. I never liked the Twinkie grade of food, but even when I ate whatever I wanted besides that(Gatorade or Muscle Milk level of quality), which included quite a few starch-based meals, I still could not gain weight through fattening even with a sedentary lifestyle, and that's 33 years worth of eating. That's how good my metabolism was even though I only had no restrictions from eating to satiation. I ate fried chicken, pasta, bacon, wontons, ground beef, fruit juice, Gatorade, Muscle Milk, almond milk to name a few things, and no weight gain even back then.

It's not a obsession. I simply make note of what gets eaten and what amount. The equivalent of logging in a diary. Time spent searching for foods is only dedicated to determining what ingredients are beneficial and what are not. I'm reeling in much wider vitamin profile than I have at any point, even 6 months ago. At some point the exploration phase will simply no longer be needed as a sufficient variety of foods and practices will be enough to achieve the goals I want.

The foods simply have to meet conditions. Number one is limited damage to teeth. Number two is to get the immune system better prepared because I got COVID this March(no hospitalization) and then some other long-term respiratory ailment this August. Three, it must contribute to general improvement of health.

I did not care about food that much from birth till this spring. First thing was a dental abscess. Next was a scummy dentist who basically made $150 on an X-Ray and tried to sell a fucking root canal+crown when I felt no pain in the teeth and it was the gum that was swollen. The diet from spring until Sept this year failed because my body's ancestry has basically tuned it to want starches and thus going only meat and vegetables resulted in binging garbage like cakes and éclairs, stuff I usually did not like during the "freedom" I had for 33 years to eat whatever; no logging was done until after Sept 28. This most recent phase came with the acceptance that going sweet-free is not a possibility for me but if I must have them, then they'll only be the healthiest sweets, which leads to the consumption of berries. I had to take initiative for myself because no one suggested a Waterpik, I came across out of pure self-interest to avoid another major abscess and to never let myself line the pockets of a dentist even through Medicaid. And general health since the bacterial infection of the gums will have a tougher time affecting the whole body if they are not allowed to grow in the first place.

Swallowing foods whole applies only to items that contain sucrose or maltose. It's to limit contact with the gumline and teeth due to the need to balance dealing with periodontitis while being a natural starch and sweet craver. Your accusation of bizarre has no rational basis, just feelings. I'll chew meat, the green vegetables like celery or lettuce, and even bit on a blackberry.
But I still consume foods rather than go the orthorexic route and reject them entirely. Pragmatism trumps ideals and sometimes I need the boost(Currently being on antibiotics also gives a sense of security).

Also, I believe that I'm trending up rather than down health-wise. Increasing the intake of antioxidants, having a consistent intake of calcium, and complete and wide intake of vitamins and minerals through plant and animal sources. Sticking to whole foods.
 
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The counting was to see how much actually gets eaten rather than restrict what gets eaten. I had eaten pasta earlier last night and I wanted to observe what it took to reach satiation when a starchy meal was eaten hours earlier. I've said it, I have no restricts regarding satiation. You, having probably heard the 100th bulimic and anorexic testimonial, think that I counted to restrict consumption. Anorexics want thinness. I don't care. Bulimics the same. I don't care about that. Orthorexics got some weird food purity stuff. There is nothing to be gained from chasing "purity". Only thing that matters to me...is effectiveness and dealing with actual practical physical matters at hand. Bacterial infections in gums are not good. Being vitamin deficient isn't good either. Having lousy tissue and immune system, not good. Inflammation that is unnecessary, not good. Tried going only meat and vegetables; too hard to maintain. This recent change was in response to the failure to eat only meat and vegetables solid food-wise as I wound up binging starches and sweets.

Getting an abscess this spring and the most recently, a filling despite a much more thorough brushing and care routine indicates further solutions and modifications had to be engineered to make such efforts worthwhile and effective.

The only reason I'm underweight is lack of muscular strength training and biological tuning. I've metabolized stuff very fast regardless of what I consumed; the only way I will be able to gain weight is through increasing muscle mass. I never liked the Twinkie grade of food, but even when I ate whatever I wanted besides that(Gatorade or Muscle Milk level of quality), which included quite a few starch-based meals, I still could not gain weight through fattening even with a sedentary lifestyle, and that's 33 years worth of eating. That's how good my metabolism was even though I only had no restrictions from eating to satiation. I ate fried chicken, pasta, bacon, wontons, ground beef, fruit juice, Gatorade, Muscle Milk, almond milk to name a few things, and no weight gain even back then.

It's not a obsession. I simply make note of what gets eaten and what amount. The equivalent of logging in a diary. Time spent searching for foods is only dedicated to determining what ingredients are beneficial and what are not. I'm reeling in much wider vitamin profile than I have at any point, even 6 months ago. At some point the exploration phase will simply no longer be needed as a sufficient variety of foods and practices will be enough to achieve the goals I want.

The foods simply have to meet conditions. Number one is limited damage to teeth. Number two is to get the immune system better prepared because I got COVID this March(no hospitalization) and then some other long-term respiratory ailment this August. Three, it must contribute to general improvement of health.

I did not care about food that much from birth till this spring. First thing was a dental abscess. Next was a scummy dentist who basically made $150 on an X-Ray and tried to sell a fucking root canal+crown when I felt no pain in the teeth and it was the gum that was swollen. The diet from spring until Sept this year failed because my body's ancestry has basically tuned it to want starches and thus going only meat and vegetables resulted in binging garbage like cakes and éclairs, stuff I usually did not like during the "freedom" I had for 33 years to eat whatever; no logging was done until after Sept 28. This most recent phase came with the acceptance that going sweet-free is not a possibility for me but if I must have them, then they'll only be the healthiest sweets, which leads to the consumption of berries. I had to take initiative for myself because no one suggested a Waterpik, I came across out of pure self-interest to avoid another major abscess and to never let myself line the pockets of a dentist even through Medicaid. And general health since the bacterial infection of the gums will have a tougher time affecting the whole body if they are not allowed to grow in the first place.

Swallowing foods whole applies only to items that contain sucrose or maltose. It's to limit contact with the gumline and teeth due to the need to balance dealing with periodontitis while being a natural starch and sweet craver. Your accusation of bizarre has no rational basis, just feelings. I'll chew meat, the green vegetables like celery or lettuce, and even bit on a blackberry.
But I still consume foods rather than go the orthorexic route and reject them entirely. Pragmatism trumps ideals and sometimes I need the boost(Currently being on antibiotics also gives a sense of security).

Also, I believe that I'm trending up rather than down health-wise. Increasing the intake of antioxidants, having a consistent intake of calcium, and complete and wide intake of vitamins and minerals through plant and animal sources. Sticking to whole foods.
Yeah. I'm convinced. Totally rational relationship with food there!
 
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Lifer
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For 10/15
140 peanuts around midnight

10/16
Approximate 95 peanuts

2 pork chops(boiled in a soup)
1 portion cucumber+pork chop soup
1 portion extra firm tofu and peppers
1 portion stir fried beef with cornstarch
3 strips of bacon.

10/17
2oz of cheese
Around 11am. 2 oz bowl of pasta with sauce(finished the jar).
Around 2 pm 3 oz bowl of pasta.
Around 5pm 2-3oz of stir-fried shredded beef(with cornstarch).

Of course no chewing because excessive contact with teeth is not what I need or want for health or a pocketbook, despite irrationals such as the above stating otherwise. Besides, starches are torn apart by amylase real quick so it doesn't matter.

My insulin response seems to be working just fine going back to starches for a day. Fill up and then feel hungry and shitty three hours later. Don't why the fuck no-fat high-carb is the paradigm of choice when it's constant hunger and great for weight gain.
 

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10/17
Final foods were
6 strips of bacon and four extremely salty stuffed olives. Too much salt for my liking regarding the latter.
 

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I've been following along the whole time laughing didn't want to be the only one ripping on this guy again like I was in other threads. Holy shit 6' 120 lbs. I'm 5' 11" 145lbs I have very low body fat and not enough muscle I couldn't imagine how little muscle I'd have at 120. You can already see all my ribs all the way around to my back and even the ones in my chest. Even if I'm 12% body fat now which is pushing it I could only get down to 136 and be somewhat healthy at 6% body fat. Assuming at 120 lbs. dudes already at 6% body fat thats 15 lbs+ less muscle that I already don't have enough of. Although googling 6' 120 lbs man says it all.

Then very little nutrients, protein, fiber, fats, calories just not enough food period. I'm all about the low carb thing and eat weird myself. I shoot for 5 - 6 small meals a day with 30 grams of protein per and eat stuff like oats and beans for fiber, actual veggies like brussel sprouts, broccoli and real leaves like spinach and kale not non nutritional lettuce. The nutrient deficiencies on display here have to be contributing to the obvious mental health issues. Not being able to sleep is a big sign of the malnutrition.

The delusions that hes some kind of intellectual and everyone else is wrong, when its so obvious hes the one thats wrong. Guys just fucked in the head period he claims to have very strong sexual desires like he did in this thread but hes a virgin that also says he doesn't want a women or care about losing his virginity, then the pedo avatar, guy ain't right. No sense in arguing with him just laugh.
 
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I've been following along the whole time laughing didn't want to be the only one ripping on this guy again like I was in other threads. Holy shit 6' 120 lbs. I'm 5' 11" 145lbs I have very low body fat and not enough muscle I couldn't imagine how little muscle I'd have at 120. You can already see all my ribs all the way around to my back and even the ones in my chest. Even if I'm 12% body fat now which is pushing it I could only get down to 136 and be somewhat healthy at 6% body fat. Assuming at 120 lbs. dudes already at 6% body fat thats 15 lbs+ less muscle that I already don't have enough of. Although googling 6' 120 lbs man says it all.

Then very little nutrients, protein, fiber, fats, calories just not enough food period. I'm all about the low carb thing and eat weird myself. I shoot for 5 - 6 small meals a day with 30 grams of protein per and eat stuff like oats and beans for fiber, actual veggies like brussel sprouts, broccoli and real leaves like spinach and kale not non nutritional lettuce. The nutrient deficiencies on display here have to be contributing to the obvious mental health issues. Not being able to sleep is a big sign of the malnutrition.

The delusions that hes some kind of intellectual and everyone else is wrong, when its so obvious hes the one thats wrong. Guys just fucked in the head period he claims to have very strong sexual desires like he did in this thread but hes a virgin that also says he doesn't want a women or care about losing his virginity, then the pedo avatar, guy ain't right. No sense in arguing with him just laugh.
Bachelor in economics, got my own skills in doing minor fixes to small engines, car repair. I'm both book smart and pragmatic smart. I might not look blue collar but I don't mind doing the work. Even before I got COVID, I could manage lifting a 24 in ladder solo.

You simply don't know that some like me simply get full on less and can't handle it.

Really, you are just a silly child. You are a disgusting person because you do not even bother to comprehend things, throwing out insults against a little straw man because you are an insecure loser who needs to have validation that you're better than someone else. Illogical, emotional, yet not respectful. That's all you are.

I don't take myself THAT seriously loser. Frozen is an excellent movie with an excellent soundtrack, written by two musical geniuses in the modern age and sung by a skilled singer. The song "Let it Go" is an ambiguous message and that is one way to interpret that ambiguity. Could be a teenage rebellion or just an LGBTQ coming out. Disney girls have no biological effect on me. But you can Daydream about your fantasies about me.

Fiber has no nutritional value and serves only to feed the gut. It's "beneficial" because the foods that come with it are simply loaded with an excellent vitamin profile.
 

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Lifer
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10/18
6 peanuts
3 strips of bacon
10 spoons of Crazy Richard's peanut butter
3 cans of Chicken of the Sea sardines(in water)
1 blackberry
Approx 3.5 oz of plain Chobani greek yogurt
3.8 oz of peanuts

Haha, seems like I'm wired for sardine power.
 

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Fiber has no nutritional value and serves only to feed the gut. It's "beneficial" because the foods that come with it are simply loaded with an excellent vitamin profile.

Didn't you say colon cancer runs in the family and you're wondering why you should aid digestion and feed gut bacteria? Good gut health is also very important to mood and well being.
 

skull

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Try some kifer you'll probably love it, real probiotic and packed with protein the plain has no net carbs. I drink like a quart of it a day.
 

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Lifer
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10/19
3 blackberries
2 bowls of baby spinach in the pork chop soup( one in afternoon and one in the night after the botched pasta and cheese)
Some plain Greek yogurt, not much though. The fats really do kill appetite fast.
1 can of Tiny tots Brisling Sardines. These are the best-testing ones I've tried yet.
Some botched pasta and cheese. Yeah, melted down maybe 6-10oz of cheddar and then tried to mixed with wet mozzarella with the water; also a little butter was added. I wound up making a cheese soup. Haha. So rich and pleasing...but I couldn't even eat half of the bowl and barely any of the pasta.
1 book(the information, not the paper). Well parts of it. "The Dental Diet" by Steven Lin. Really not too much new, but the introduction to vitamin K2 was edifying. Benefits are multifaceted, the most relevant to me is that it promotes bone formation including in the dentin. It also might helped arterial health as well. I thank the public library as well. Looks like I'll have to diversify the cheeses and consider pasture-raised eggs. My mom would also benefit as she's a senior and the recent bone scan indicates she has osteopenia; shouldn't be too hard since she likes pork and hates beef and certain pork cuts has K2.