9/11 victims angered by bush ads

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Originally posted by: Romans828
I support Bush, but he should stop the 9/11 commercials its only gonna hurt him. Not smart politics IMO

There are bound to be other Bush supporters who see this as an exercise in bad taste. Commercializing those images is bad taste, nothing more or less.
 

Gaard

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There's another side to this issue. They had said earlier that they wouldn't use the attacks for political gain. Does the fact that they are in fact doing what they said they wouldn't say anything to you?

I'm sure CAD wouldn't mind if I try to give the other aspect of the story some light. ;)
 

DoubleL

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Just as I thought, I heard on the radio yesterday that the woman that said when she saw the bush add it upset her, The time she said that the add hadn't run yet, How can that be
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Neither side should be using this. Anyone who wants it needs to be sent to Iraq to look for WMDs and can come home when they find them.
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: DoubleL
Just as I thought, I heard on the radio yesterday that the woman that said when she saw the bush add it upset her, The time she said that the add hadn't run yet, How can that be

Maybe she owns a computer?

Or watches Hannity?
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Gaard
There's another side to this issue. They had said earlier that they wouldn't use the attacks for political gain. Does the fact that they are in fact doing what they said they wouldn't say anything to you?

I'm sure CAD wouldn't mind if I try to give the other aspect of the story some light. ;)

It is asinine to think that the leadership he showed can't be used to advertise his presidency. There is a fine line however between that and exploiting the tragedy. I'm sure some here don't and won't see a difference(black/white;)) but it's true none the less.

Should kerry use Vietnam deaths for political gain? You might want to take a look through kerry's ads so far before answering that;)

CkG
 

Red Dawn

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If Bush wants to show scenes from one of the greatest failures of the American Government to protect it's citizens why should he not be allowed to do so?
 

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Originally posted by: DoubleL
Just as I thought, I heard on the radio yesterday that the woman that said when she saw the bush add it upset her, The time she said that the add hadn't run yet, How can that be
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Maybe she owns a computer?

Or watches Hannity?

Maybe, But, Or, I think we all know what is going on,
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: DoubleL
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Originally posted by: DoubleL
Just as I thought, I heard on the radio yesterday that the woman that said when she saw the bush add it upset her, The time she said that the add hadn't run yet, How can that be
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Maybe she owns a computer?

Or watches Hannity?

Maybe, But, Or, I think we all know what is going on,
You actually knowing what is going on would definately be a first for you.

That said, I haven't a problem with him using those images. Of course I don't have a problem with his opponents using those same images to point out his failure to protect American citizens at home . Of course the same can be said of Clinton.
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
There's another side to this issue. They had said earlier that they wouldn't use the attacks for political gain. Does the fact that they are in fact doing what they said they wouldn't say anything to you?

I'm sure CAD wouldn't mind if I try to give the other aspect of the story some light. ;)

It is asinine to think that the leadership he showed can't be used to advertise his presidency. There is a fine line however between that and exploiting the tragedy. I'm sure some here don't and won't see a difference(black/white;)) but it's true none the less.

Should kerry use Vietnam deaths for political gain? You might want to take a look through kerry's ads so far before answering that;)

CkG

So what does the fact that they are now doing what they said they wouldn't tell you?
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
There's another side to this issue. They had said earlier that they wouldn't use the attacks for political gain. Does the fact that they are in fact doing what they said they wouldn't say anything to you?

I'm sure CAD wouldn't mind if I try to give the other aspect of the story some light. ;)

It is asinine to think that the leadership he showed can't be used to advertise his presidency. There is a fine line however between that and exploiting the tragedy. I'm sure some here don't and won't see a difference(black/white;)) but it's true none the less.

Should kerry use Vietnam deaths for political gain? You might want to take a look through kerry's ads so far before answering that;)

CkG

So what does the fact that they are now doing what they said they wouldn't tell you?

I think that Bush is doing exactly as he is allowed - to showcase his leadership during his time as President. You can try to say that these ads were about 9/11 but you'd be missing the point of them. Their point was leadership - not the tradgedy. Again - there is a fine line to walk but so far Bush hasn't come close to that line of "politicising" the events of 9/11 for political gain.
Sorry if you can't see the distinction - I'm not sure how to explain it further.

CkG
 

nutxo

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I heard this lady on the radio yesterday complaining about the ad she said " I've been a registered dem.... republican my whole life but this really upsets me" or something to that effect, it was hilarious.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: nutxo
I heard this lady on the radio yesterday complaining about the ad she said " I've been a registered dem.... republican my whole life but this really upsets me" or something to that effect, it was hilarious.

I caught that too - the first time, before they replayed it. It's great when seminar callers are nabbed:p Not only was she nabbed for trying to say she was a Republican - she was nabbed by lying about kerry's ad with Vietnam as the backdrop:p That woman has serious issues....or she was just a seminar caller who was had:p

Good stuff - real entertaining piece of radio that was.:)

CkG
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
There's another side to this issue. They had said earlier that they wouldn't use the attacks for political gain. Does the fact that they are in fact doing what they said they wouldn't say anything to you?

I'm sure CAD wouldn't mind if I try to give the other aspect of the story some light. ;)

It is asinine to think that the leadership he showed can't be used to advertise his presidency. There is a fine line however between that and exploiting the tragedy. I'm sure some here don't and won't see a difference(black/white;)) but it's true none the less.

Should kerry use Vietnam deaths for political gain? You might want to take a look through kerry's ads so far before answering that;)

CkG

So what does the fact that they are now doing what they said they wouldn't tell you?

I think that Bush is doing exactly as he is allowed - to showcase his leadership during his time as President. You can try to say that these ads were about 9/11 but you'd be missing the point of them. Their point was leadership - not the tradgedy. Again - there is a fine line to walk but so far Bush hasn't come close to that line of "politicising" the events of 9/11 for political gain.
Sorry if you can't see the distinction - I'm not sure how to explain it further.

CkG

So, iyo, they aren't doing what they said they wouldn't?

 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
There's another side to this issue. They had said earlier that they wouldn't use the attacks for political gain. Does the fact that they are in fact doing what they said they wouldn't say anything to you?

I'm sure CAD wouldn't mind if I try to give the other aspect of the story some light. ;)

It is asinine to think that the leadership he showed can't be used to advertise his presidency. There is a fine line however between that and exploiting the tragedy. I'm sure some here don't and won't see a difference(black/white;)) but it's true none the less.

Should kerry use Vietnam deaths for political gain? You might want to take a look through kerry's ads so far before answering that;)

CkG

So what does the fact that they are now doing what they said they wouldn't tell you?

I think that Bush is doing exactly as he is allowed - to showcase his leadership during his time as President. You can try to say that these ads were about 9/11 but you'd be missing the point of them. Their point was leadership - not the tradgedy. Again - there is a fine line to walk but so far Bush hasn't come close to that line of "politicising" the events of 9/11 for political gain.
Sorry if you can't see the distinction - I'm not sure how to explain it further.

CkG

So, iyo, they aren't doing what they said they wouldn't?

What exactly do you think they said and meant?

CkG
 

Gaard

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That they wouldn't use the attacks for political gain.

^that's not an exact quote...I'll look it up but you get the gist.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Gaard
That they wouldn't use the attacks for political gain.

^that's not an exact quote...I'll look it up but you get the gist.

Then you already have my answer. Now if you think they said that there would be no references to that time period and their actions and leadership - I'd like to see it.;)

CkG
 

PELarson

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Originally posted by: DoubleL
Just as I thought, I heard on the radio yesterday that the woman that said when she saw the bush add it upset her, The time she said that the add hadn't run yet, How can that be

I am voting for Kerry but am on georgewbush.com's mailing list and one other reelect mailing list. So it was one or the other who sent round a email with links a few days before the first broadcast. I deleted it without looking so can't confirm the exact source.


 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
There's another side to this issue. They had said earlier that they wouldn't use the attacks for political gain. Does the fact that they are in fact doing what they said they wouldn't say anything to you?

I'm sure CAD wouldn't mind if I try to give the other aspect of the story some light. ;)

It is asinine to think that the leadership he showed can't be used to advertise his presidency. There is a fine line however between that and exploiting the tragedy. I'm sure some here don't and won't see a difference(black/white;)) but it's true none the less.

Should kerry use Vietnam deaths for political gain? You might want to take a look through kerry's ads so far before answering that;)

CkG

kerry was over there, risking his neck with those that did not make it.

bush has nothing to do with the brave firefighters that went in and never came back out. the firefighters and their families have ever right to be upset with bush.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
There's another side to this issue. They had said earlier that they wouldn't use the attacks for political gain. Does the fact that they are in fact doing what they said they wouldn't say anything to you?

I'm sure CAD wouldn't mind if I try to give the other aspect of the story some light. ;)

It is asinine to think that the leadership he showed can't be used to advertise his presidency. There is a fine line however between that and exploiting the tragedy. I'm sure some here don't and won't see a difference(black/white;)) but it's true none the less.

Should kerry use Vietnam deaths for political gain? You might want to take a look through kerry's ads so far before answering that;)

CkG

kerry was over there, risking his neck with those that did not make it.

bush has nothing to do with the brave firefighters that went in and never came back out. the firefighters and their families have ever right to be upset with bush.

Ah, so kerry can bring up experience and leadership during difficult times but Bush can't? I got it...
rolleye.gif


CkG
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
That they wouldn't use the attacks for political gain.

^that's not an exact quote...I'll look it up but you get the gist.

Then you already have my answer. Now if you think they said that there would be no references to that time period and their actions and leadership - I'd like to see it.;)

CkG

I'm sorry, If you answered, it was lost on me. Think you could shrink it down to 2 or 3 letters? ;)
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
That they wouldn't use the attacks for political gain.

^that's not an exact quote...I'll look it up but you get the gist.

Then you already have my answer. Now if you think they said that there would be no references to that time period and their actions and leadership - I'd like to see it.;)

CkG

I'm sorry, If you answered, it was lost on me. Think you could shrink it down to 2 or 3 letters? ;)

Nope - This is your answer.
I think that Bush is doing exactly as he is allowed - to showcase his leadership during his time as President. You can try to say that these ads were about 9/11 but you'd be missing the point of them. Their point was leadership - not the tradgedy. Again - there is a fine line to walk but so far Bush hasn't come close to that line of "politicising" the events of 9/11 for political gain.
Sorry if you can't see the distinction - I'm not sure how to explain it further.

CkG
 

nutxo

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Originally posted by: Gaard
What's a seminar caller?

I believe its when a group of people are coached about certain subjects to call and complain about.

The one I heard , I swear, I think it was Fran Drescher (sp) in character for "the nanny".

:D
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
That they wouldn't use the attacks for political gain.

^that's not an exact quote...I'll look it up but you get the gist.

Then you already have my answer. Now if you think they said that there would be no references to that time period and their actions and leadership - I'd like to see it.;)

CkG

I'm sorry, If you answered, it was lost on me. Think you could shrink it down to 2 or 3 letters? ;)

Nope - This is your answer.
I think that Bush is doing exactly as he is allowed - to showcase his leadership during his time as President. You can try to say that these ads were about 9/11 but you'd be missing the point of them. Their point was leadership - not the tradgedy. Again - there is a fine line to walk but so far Bush hasn't come close to that line of "politicising" the events of 9/11 for political gain.
Sorry if you can't see the distinction - I'm not sure how to explain it further.

CkG


Are you sure your real name isn't Ari? ;)