9/11 victims angered by bush ads

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enough said.

 

[tnitsuj]

Bunch of whiney Bush Haters. Those ads have incredible production values, and the 9/11 elements are very suttle.

 

[Czar]

The campaign had said in the past that it would not use the attacks for political gain.

someone was asking for a quote earlier

 

[CaptnKirk]

The last paragraph sums it up:


"Three thousand people were murdered on President Bush's watch," Breitweiser said.
"He has not cooperated with the investigation to find out why that happened."

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
The last paragraph summs it up:



"He has not cooperated with the investigation to find out why that happened."</STRONG>

We know what happened: two planes hit the twin towers.

 

[ManSnake]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
The last paragraph summs it up:



"He has not cooperated with the investigation to find out why that happened."</STRONG>

We know what happened: two planes hit the twin towers.

So you think it is okay for someone to use the events of 9/11 for political gain?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Bunch of whiney Bush Haters. Those ads have incredible production values, and the 9/11 elements are very suttle.

Exactly. I don't care if you were being sarcastic - I'd say exactly that and mean it.

These ads didn't do anything to disrespect anyone involved in those incidents and it sure as hell wasn't focusing on them.

This "reaction" and "reporting" get a

CkG

 

[Red Dawn]

Why shouldn't Bush be able to use those images? They happened on his watch. You can bet the Democrats are going to use his BS'ing about WMDs in Iraq to mislead the American Public into supporting his ill advised excellent adventure in Iraq because it obviously happened on his watch too!

 

[Tab]

What a lame excuse, a load of Bush Bashers.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Tabb
What a lame excuse, a load of Bush Bashers.

LOL, you say that like it's a bad thing.

IMO, Bush did what any sitting president would have done after the 9/11 attack..well except for creating the Patriot act and using the 9/11 attacks, the patriotism and feared that followed to mislead the American Public into supporting his and the Neocons predetermined invasion and occupation of Iraq!

 

[ManSnake]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Why shouldn't Bush be able to use those images? They happened on his watch. You can bet the Democrats are going to use his BS'ing about WMDs in Iraq to mislead the American Public into supporting his ill advised excellent adventure in Iraq because it obviously happened on his watch too!

Yes, 9/11 happened on his watch, and yes, he could use the images but they should be images of himself during that time. When he uses images of those firefighters and rescue workers in the ad, it implies that those people are supporter of this president, which is not necessarily true. That is taking advantage of a tragic event for political gain!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: ManSnake

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Why shouldn't Bush be able to use those images? They happened on his watch. You can bet the Democrats are going to use his BS'ing about WMDs in Iraq to mislead the American Public into supporting his ill advised excellent adventure in Iraq because it obviously happened on his watch too!

Yes, 9/11 happened on his watch, and yes, he could use the images but they should be images of himself during that time. When he uses images of those firefighters and rescue workers in the ad, it implies that those people are supporter of this president, which is not necessarily true. That is taking advantage of a tragic event for political gain!

Can the Democrats use those comercials with a voice over to attack Bush? Would that be legal?

 

[tnitsuj]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
The last paragraph summs it up:



"He has not cooperated with the investigation to find out why that happened."</STRONG>

We know what happened: two planes hit the twin towers.

And a little place called the Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvaia. 9/11 was not just New York.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: ManSnake

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Why shouldn't Bush be able to use those images? They happened on his watch. You can bet the Democrats are going to use his BS'ing about WMDs in Iraq to mislead the American Public into supporting his ill advised excellent adventure in Iraq because it obviously happened on his watch too!

Yes, 9/11 happened on his watch, and yes, he could use the images but they should be images of himself during that time. When he uses images of those firefighters and rescue workers in the ad, it implies that those people are supporter of this president, which is not necessarily true. That is taking advantage of a tragic event for political gain!

Can the Democrats use those comercials with a voice over to attack Bush? Would that be legal?

Nope. Gotta pay for the legal rights to use footage like that

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: ManSnake

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Why shouldn't Bush be able to use those images? They happened on his watch. You can bet the Democrats are going to use his BS'ing about WMDs in Iraq to mislead the American Public into supporting his ill advised excellent adventure in Iraq because it obviously happened on his watch too!

Yes, 9/11 happened on his watch, and yes, he could use the images but they should be images of himself during that time. When he uses images of those firefighters and rescue workers in the ad, it implies that those people are supporter of this president, which is not necessarily true. That is taking advantage of a tragic event for political gain!

Can the Democrats use those comercials with a voice over to attack Bush? Would that be legal?

Nope. Gotta pay for the legal rights to use footage like that

I figured as much. It would be a shame if Bush couldn't use the 9/11 attacks for his campaign as that was when he was at his best. ALthough I still stick by my opinion any other sitting President would have done the same at least Bush didn't falter and did show strong leadership at the time.

 

[DealMonkey]

Bush should go ahead and use all of the 9/11 images he wants. Despite his campaign saying he wouldn't do so. Despite the 9/11 victims and their families angered by the exploitation. Despite the firefighters being angered by the ads. Remember, Bush doesn't care about the polls, so we should all just let him shoot himself in the ass right out of the gate.

Cue the Alan Jackson: :music: Where were you when the world stopped turnin' that September day? :music:

 

[lozina]

It is absolutely politicizing those images and they have a right to be angry. The opposite crowd would be angry if it was a democrat doing this- the beauty of partisan zeal.

Just look at how neatly this thread has degraded into 'Bush-bashers' vs. 'Bush-lovers'. No one is discussing the fundamental flaw of politicizing a tragic event towards personal/political gain. What if it were not even a Presidential campaign, what if it were perhaps part of an advertisement for a company trying to sell their products?

 

[AEB]

I guess im lost. You guys say he is using it for gain but so what? He did a good job at that time, and he is saying he will continue to provide strong leadership. Would you rather he make fun of Kerry for flip-flopping or lay out what he has done? People have too much time on their hands.

 

[DoubleL]

9/11 victims angered by bush ads

One. ONE, I have heard on the radio a lot more than one say they are not upset, That people should not forget what changed American, We have someone that kicked the asses of the ones that did it and have there leader on the run or dead, The man in the White house is known for more than renaming a blow job and doing nothing but passing the mess on to the next guy

 

[Napalm]

I find it hard to get bent out of shape about these ads. Just wait a couple of months until the mud really starts flying...

N

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: ManSnake

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Why shouldn't Bush be able to use those images? They happened on his watch. You can bet the Democrats are going to use his BS'ing about WMDs in Iraq to mislead the American Public into supporting his ill advised excellent adventure in Iraq because it obviously happened on his watch too!

Yes, 9/11 happened on his watch, and yes, he could use the images but they should be images of himself during that time. When he uses images of those firefighters and rescue workers in the ad, it implies that those people are supporter of this president, which is not necessarily true. That is taking advantage of a tragic event for political gain!

Can the Democrats use those comercials with a voice over to attack Bush? Would that be legal?

Nope. Gotta pay for the legal rights to use footage like that

I figured as much. It would be a shame if Bush couldn't use the 9/11 attacks for his campaign as that was when he was at his best. ALthough I still stick by my opinion any other sitting President would have done the same at least Bush didn't falter and did show strong leadership at the time.

nah, Clinton would have sent a few 2 million dollar missiles to blow up a few 10 dollar tents and called it good
:beer:

 

[maddogchen]

Has anyone seen these ads? besides just reading about them? If anyone has could they post a link? I like to see these ads before I past judgement on whether its exploitive or not.

 

[Napalm]

Link

 

[CaptnKirk]

You know what - there was only one individual that stepped up and showed a
leadership capacity in the wake of 9/11 attacks in New York, and is wasn't Bush.

Rudy Guliani kept his composure - clearly under duress, and provided leadership and hope.

Everyone else used it as a photo op to been seen at the site for thier own gain.

To Bush it was a blessed event that he grabbed onto - to elevate his failure, and distract the
country, not unite it, but devide the country and the world into a 'Us versus Them'.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: ManSnake

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
The last paragraph summs it up:



"He has not cooperated with the investigation to find out why that happened."</STRONG>

We know what happened: two planes hit the twin towers.

So you think it is okay for someone to use the events of 9/11 for political gain?

would that be attacks such as political attacks on the president?