9/11 responders bill defeated by GOP filibuster

[JSt0rm]

Are you always so dishonest? This isn't about their health care, it's about an extra $7B+ for doing what they already get paid to do. They have health care, great plans I might add. Your appeal to emotion is the misguided opinion.

The union workers must maintain working to keep their plan. If they cant work then its the poor house.

 

[Homerboy]

It is not a 2 team sport. There's 308 million of us on the same team! Idiot politicians.
ALL OF THEM and all of you that pick a side.

 

[xj0hnx]

The union workers must maintain working to keep their plan. If they cant work then its the poor house.

Can you back that up? That first responders to 9/11 are being shoved to the poor house because of the injuries sustained during 9/11. Because this is just about all "union" workers, or about all first responders.

 

[JSt0rm]

Can you back that up? That first responders to 9/11 are being shoved to the poor house because of the injuries sustained during 9/11. Because this is just about all "union" workers, or about all first responders.

The people who cleaned up are included in this bill. They dont have the emergency worker coverage.

 

[xj0hnx]

The people who cleaned up are included in this bill. They dont have the emergency worker coverage.

So is it about the first responders, or the clean up crews? Can you make up your mind? And can you still link that he clean up crews are going to the poor house because their employer provided health insurance isn't good enough that we have to give them another $7+B, on top of what they get to do their jobs, and all the charities out there for 9/11 first responders?

 

[JSt0rm]

So is it about the first responders, or the clean up crews? Can you make up your mind? And can you still link that he clean up crews are going to the poor house because their employer provided health insurance isn't good enough that we have to give them another $7+B, on top of what they get to do their jobs, and all the charities out there for 9/11 first responders?

Dude if you don't know what the bill is about maybe you shouldn't be arguing about it. This bill includes the cleanup workers and volunteers.

 

[xj0hnx]

Dude if you don't know what the bill is about maybe you shouldn't be arguing about it. This bill includes the cleanup workers and volunteers.

Links to all the people in the poor house because they aren't going to get $7+B?

 

[JSt0rm]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=9%2F11+responders+financial+problems

 

[JSt0rm]

dig through those links and then write me a 400 word essay on how sorry you are.

 

[dainthomas]

So is it about the first responders, or the clean up crews?

Does it matter? Would you be for one or the other?

Sometimes it's better not to oppose something, even though your political philosophy says you have to, because you end up looking mean and petty and like kind of a tool.

 

[xj0hnx]

Does it matter? Would you be for one or the other?

Sometimes it's better not to oppose something, even though your political philosophy says you have to, because you end up looking mean and petty and like kind of a tool.

I'm not for giving either $7+B. If the incident is beyond what they feel is their duty was they can take it up though proper channels, taxpayer money to supplement what they already get paid to do the job, and the many targeted charities is not the right way to do it. This is nothing more than a political stunt, and you emo driven progressives are lapping it up for all it's worth. Everyday first responders, and people on the frontlines risk, and give their lives with no expectation above doing their duty.

 

[Throckmorton]

I'm not for giving either $7+B. If the incident is beyond what they feel is their duty was they can take it up though proper channels, taxpayer money to supplement what they already get paid to do the job, and the many targeted charities is not the right way to do it. This is nothing more than a political stunt, and you emo driven progressives are lapping it up for all it's worth. Everyday first responders, and people on the frontlines risk, and give their lives with no expectation above doing their duty.

Yep, you look mean, petty, and like kind of a tool.

 

[Throckmorton]

Potential job losses, LOL

 

[LTC8K6]

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/12/09/fdny-set-to-implement-crash-tax/

They figured out a way to collect...

 

[xj0hnx]

Yep, you look mean, petty, and like kind of a tool.

Coming from a progressive, loony leftist I'll take that as a compliment.

 

[umbrella39]

So republicans are consistently opposed to medical benefits. I disagree with them, but at least they are consistent.

That is true. If they could pull it out from underneath active-duty servicemen, I bet they would.

 

[Throckmorton]

Coming from a progressive, loony leftist I'll take that as a compliment.

LIBERAL not progressive loony leftist

 

[guyver01]

focus on the extension of current tax rates.

you mean the "tax breaks" for your billionaire buddies, right?

Who cares if the "peasants" get health care... let my billionaire buddy keep his $250,000!!

right? right?

 

[kylebisme]

While most media has been shamefully quiet on this matter, The Daily Show and al Jazeera have recently shown the decency to interview some first responders.

 

[thraashman]

This doesn't surprise me at all. The Republican party has a history of doublespeak like this. They'll invoke 9/11 as much as possible but do nothing to support the heroes of it.

Just look up John McCain's voting record for veterans to see a similar example.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

This is absolutely a political stunt. The democrats crafted it in such a way that they knew Republicans would oppose it, and then they could call them on not supporting the nation's heroes.

However, the important part of this bill should still be allowed to pass - the part about the responders' benefits, that is. It sickens me that congress has ended their session because "It's christmas time and we want to spend it with our families." Well, the sooner you pass the bill, the sooner you can go home!

 

[fskimospy]

This is absolutely a political stunt. The democrats crafted it in such a way that they knew Republicans would oppose it, and then they could call them on not supporting the nation's heroes.

However, the important part of this bill should still be allowed to pass - the part about the responders' benefits, that is. It sickens me that congress has ended their session because "It's christmas time and we want to spend it with our families." Well, the sooner you pass the bill, the sooner you can go home!

As asked before, can you give a plausible time frame when this bill should have been passed where it would not be called a political stunt? Everyone else has failed so far.

 

[JSt0rm]

This is absolutely a political stunt. The democrats crafted it in such a way that they knew Republicans would oppose it, and then they could call them on not supporting the nation's heroes.

However, the important part of this bill should still be allowed to pass - the part about the responders' benefits, that is. It sickens me that congress has ended their session because "It's christmas time and we want to spend it with our families." Well, the sooner you pass the bill, the sooner you can go home!

Well our local neocons have shown up in this thread against giving these men and women benefits. This seems to be the republican position on the issue.

 

[Throckmorton]

Cable news has ignored this story except for Jon Stewart
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/opin...edia-for-Inattention-to-911-Health-Needs-6248

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Well our local neocons have shown up in this thread against giving these men and women benefits. This seems to be the republican position on the issue.

Well lets see the people that were 1st responders did so because IT WAS THEIR JOB. They got a paycheck to do it. It is up to the company or authority they worked for to foot the bill. Not the American tax payer. Those that volunteered did so of their own free will.
When will people like you grow up and realize that people make choices and they have to be willing to live with the consiquences.
does it suck that they are sick and broke, sure, but if you haven't noticed, we as a nation are BROKE!!! We can't keep spending money left and right for everything that makes us feel good or patriotic because all it will do is put us in the poor house sooner.