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9/11 Conspiracy

WTF is the 9/11 truth movement?

LOL the 2nd plane fired a missile into the tower a second before crashing into it? Seems kinda redundant.
 
I found this intersting:

On the evening of 9/11 Bush stated[2]:

"Immediately following the first attack, I implemented our government's emergency response plans. Our military is powerful, and it's prepared. Our emergency teams are working in New York City and Washington, D.C. to help with local rescue efforts."

This contradicts what Bush said in Orlando Florida on December 4, 2001:[3]

"Actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident." But I was whisked off there - I didn't have much time to think about it."

and at a town meeting in Ontario in January 2002: [4]

"first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on. And you know, I thought it was pilot error and I was amazed that anybody could make such a terrible mistake. And something was wrong with the plane"

The fact that Bush considered the crash to be an accident contradicts his claim that he immediately implemented the government's emergency response plans. Also, the first plane crash was not broadcasted live anywhere. There was no footage of the first plane hitting the WTC until the next day.
 
Originally posted by: Crackle19
I found this intersting:

On the evening of 9/11 Bush stated[2]:

"Immediately following the first attack, I implemented our government's emergency response plans. Our military is powerful, and it's prepared. Our emergency teams are working in New York City and Washington, D.C. to help with local rescue efforts."

This contradicts what Bush said in Orlando Florida on December 4, 2001:[3]

"Actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident." But I was whisked off there - I didn't have much time to think about it."

and at a town meeting in Ontario in January 2002: [4]

"first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on. And you know, I thought it was pilot error and I was amazed that anybody could make such a terrible mistake. And something was wrong with the plane"

The fact that Bush considered the crash to be an accident contradicts his claim that he immediately implemented the government's emergency response plans. Also, the first plane crash was not broadcasted live anywhere. There was no footage of the first plane hitting the WTC until the next day.
That just shows the compulsive lies and utter incompetence of the sitting president.

As far as the thread is concerned, I was pretty sure that 9/11 conspiracy threads were hunted into extinction already.

Mods?

/thread
 
Originally posted by: hypn0tik
My roommate showed this to me the other day. Pretty interesting. My apologizes if this is a repost.

Google Video Link

It's an hour long.


The video you posted is the first edition...and the makers of the film removed the missile from the planes theory. Here's the 2nd edition, which is making its way around the nation (Fox News recently covered it as well)

Actual Loose Change 2nd Edition video: Click Here

Fox News 40 coverage on Loose Change 2nd Edition:
part 1
part 2
 
It's not a theory that explosions took place 12 seconds before the collapse of WTC1 🙂

video link: 9/11 Eyewitness
(Fast forward to time frame 52:50 - 55:10 , 3 distinct explosions can be heard 12 seconds before WTC1 collapse + smoke rising from the streets)
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
hmm im watching the video

it makes good points

stop showing me this crap

Im starting to believe it..

You should definitely watch these 2 clips (A total of 4 minutes altogether):

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtcshake.mpg
(12 seconds before WTC1 collapse, the tripod shakes, debris falls off the right side of the building)

It corroborates with this:

video link: 9/11 Eyewitness
(Time frame 52:50 - 55:10 , 3 explosions can be heard roughly 12 seconds before WTC1 collapse + smoke rising from the streets)
 
Even if this was all true

The American public has been brainwashed.

If you talk conspiracy you will be called anti-American.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Even if this was all true

The American public has been brainwashed.

If you talk conspiracy you will be called anti-American.

So you believe that the US government planned or knew about 9/11? You really disappoint me...
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Aimster
Even if this was all true

The American public has been brainwashed.

If you talk conspiracy you will be called anti-American.

So you believe that the US government planned or knew about 9/11? You really disappoint me...

I believe they are not telling the public the entire story.

Watch the video. Im still watching it.
It raises hundreds of questions.

Unless the video is full of BS and they made up a bunch of information to make it seem like a conspiracy.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Aimster
Even if this was all true

The American public has been brainwashed.

If you talk conspiracy you will be called anti-American.

So you believe that the US government planned or knew about 9/11? You really disappoint me...

I believe they are not telling the public the entire story.

Watch the video. Im still watching it.
It raises hundreds of questions.

Unless the video is full of BS and they made up a bunch of information to make it seem like a conspiracy.

You can make anything into a conspiracy. None of these "points" proves anything whatsoever...
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Aimster
Even if this was all true

The American public has been brainwashed.

If you talk conspiracy you will be called anti-American.

So you believe that the US government planned or knew about 9/11? You really disappoint me...

I believe they are not telling the public the entire story.

Watch the video. Im still watching it.
It raises hundreds of questions.

Unless the video is full of BS and they made up a bunch of information to make it seem like a conspiracy.

You can make anything into a conspiracy. None of these "points" proves anything whatsoever...

* The FBI all they have to do is release the entire Pentagon video that shows a plane crashing into it. Why won't they do that?

* There is great evidence that suggests there was bombs inside the buildings - WTC. The steel was meant to withstand the extreme heat for several hours. There are voice recordings of people inside the building claiming to have seen an explosion.

The only thing I can't figure out is what is the purpose of hiding this information.

The govt didn't have any knowledge of the attacks. But I'm not convinced they didn't cover information up and change facts to better their own agendas.
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Aimster
Even if this was all true

The American public has been brainwashed.

If you talk conspiracy you will be called anti-American.

So you believe that the US government planned or knew about 9/11? You really disappoint me...

The number one duty of every american is to always question the government. When we do not question the government we give up all of our freedoms we have fought so hard to keep in the past. You ntdz, are the one that disapoints me.
 
Originally posted by: LcarsSystem
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Aimster
Even if this was all true

The American public has been brainwashed.

If you talk conspiracy you will be called anti-American.

So you believe that the US government planned or knew about 9/11? You really disappoint me...

The number one duty of every american is to always question the government. When we do not question the government we give up all of our freedoms we have fought so hard to keep in the past. You ntdz, are the one that disapoints me.

It's not just the government's assertion, it's nearly every reputable person or committee's assertion as well...

 
Originally posted by: Aimster
* The FBI all they have to do is release the entire Pentagon video that shows a plane crashing into it. Why won't they do that?

* There is great evidence that suggests there was bombs inside the buildings - WTC. The steel was meant to withstand the extreme heat for several hours. There are voice recordings of people inside the building claiming to have seen an explosion.

The only thing I can't figure out is what is the purpose of hiding this information.

The govt didn't have any knowledge of the attacks. But I'm not convinced they didn't cover information up and change facts to better their own agendas.

Maybe your can't figure out the purpose because there is no purpose? What could they have possibly have changed to better their agendas?

If the government didn't plant the bombs, then the terrorists must have right? Well then why even bother with the planes if they could just blow it up with bombs? BTW, I still haven't seen any evidence there even was any explosions...
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Aimster
* The FBI all they have to do is release the entire Pentagon video that shows a plane crashing into it. Why won't they do that?

* There is great evidence that suggests there was bombs inside the buildings - WTC. The steel was meant to withstand the extreme heat for several hours. There are voice recordings of people inside the building claiming to have seen an explosion.

The only thing I can't figure out is what is the purpose of hiding this information.

The govt didn't have any knowledge of the attacks. But I'm not convinced they didn't cover information up and change facts to better their own agendas.

Maybe your can't figure out the purpose because there is no purpose? What could they have possibly have changed to better their agendas?

If the government didn't plant the bombs, then the terrorists must have right? Well then why even bother with the planes if they could just blow it up with bombs? BTW, I still haven't seen any evidence there even was any explosions...

The video shows more than a dozen firefighters talking about a second explosion and dozens of reporters talking about an explosion. They all witnessed it.

As for the Pentagon thing that can easily be proven right/wrong by showing the public a video. Why is it blocked?
 
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