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8800GTX to be 30% faster than ATI's X1950XTX. GTS to be about equal to it.

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thilanliyan

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Originally posted by: Creig
EN8800GTX/HTDP/768M , is: USD $540 (FOB).
EN8800GTS/HTDP/640M , is: USD $410 (FOB).

THat's somewhat resonable if true. I wonder what eVGA will put the price as to step up. On the other hand, if the 8800GTS and the X1950XTX perform about the same...and the price is about the same(and have comparable IQ)...well, that would be a hard choice. I can't wait till this card comes out to see what it can really do.
 

JAG87

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so how about do we go connecting 2 pci-e power connectors to this card...

all SLI supplies only have a max of 2 pci-e connectors, so I guess their not SLI certified anymore, since 8800 in GTX will need 4 six pin molex connectors... I hope that there is some kind of Y adapter from 1 to 2 six pin power in the box. Or is that not a good idea? will it draw too much power for one six pin cable to handle?
 

GTaudiophile

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Well, that ASUS info mirrors what the German article said. Why then believe that the German conclusion that the GTX is only 30% faster than the X1950 XTX is false?

 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: Creig
Originally posted by: nitromullet
I'm guessing the top picture is the GTX and bottom pic is the GTS.

I'd say you're correct. The card in the top picture has five vents in the shroud compared to four in the bottom card. Plus the top card appears to be longer than the bottom one.

The bottom one also appears (I think... hard to see at that angle) to only have one 6-pin PCI-E connector facing forward instead of two facing upwards on the GTX card.

all SLI supplies only have a max of 2 pci-e connectors

not all... High dollar, quad-SLI type PSU's have four 6-pin connectors. I have been saying this for a while now in the G80 threads, and everyone seems to be more interested in debating the non-practical aspects, such as dual or single core etc..., of these cards. IMO, the practical power and space requirements of these cards should be of greater concern...
 

JAG87

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exactly, i dont wanna buy a 1kw PSU with 2 pci-e power, and then find out that I need one with four to do SLI.
 

JAG87

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Originally posted by: Centurin
Originally posted by: JAG87
so how about do we go connecting 2 pci-e power connectors to this card...

Your Answer

man your dumb, look at the back of the PSU stoopid. it only has 2.

and thats exactly the PSU I want. But will it work properly if you connect both plugs through a splitter to one PCI-e cable? Or is 30A too much for one of those modular plugs?
 

Centurin

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Umm.. The Galaxy has 4. 2 native, 2 modular.

*Edit* And I'd appreciate you reading the datasheet before shooting insults.
 

JAG87

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Originally posted by: Centurin
Umm.. The Galaxy has 4. 2 native, 2 modular.

*Edit* And I'd appreciate you reading the datasheet before shooting insults.

shyte, my bad Centurin
my apologies, and a big thank you, I was worried for a couple of minutes there...
 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: JAG87
Originally posted by: Centurin
Umm.. The Galaxy has 4. 2 native, 2 modular.

*Edit* And I'd appreciate you reading the datasheet before shooting insults.

shyte, my bad Centurin
my apologies, and a big thank you, I was worried for a couple of minutes there...

All of the following have four 6-pin connectors:

PCP&C 1KW
Enermax Galaxy 900W & 1000W
Tagan 900 and 1100W
Seasonic M12 700W (I'm not sure if this would be enough for two 8800GTX's though)

...those are just the ones I know of off the top of my head.
 

josh6079

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Or those who already have a decent PSU and had the foresight to get a case holding two PSU's could just invest in another decent PSU for a combined amount that would handle GTX SLI.
 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: josh6079
Or those who already have a decent PSU and had the foresight to get a case holding two PSU's could just invest in another decent PSU for a combined amount that would handle GTX SLI.

I've got my eye on 8800GTS SLI for this very reason. I think my PCP&C Silencer 750W will be enough for two of those, but probably not for the 8800GTX. I can't fit a 9+ inch PSU in my case without modifcation either, and I really like the case (it's practicality and appearance my be debatable by some, but its air cooling properites are undeniable).

...8800GTX SLI is going to a fairly rare setup IMO, as the associated costs other than the cards themselves will be pretty high.
 

thegimp03

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Not really worth it if it's only 30% faster than an ATI x1950xtx. A $600-$700 card should do better...
 

Creig

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Originally posted by: JAG87
so how about do we go connecting 2 pci-e power connectors to this card...

all SLI supplies only have a max of 2 pci-e connectors, so I guess their not SLI certified anymore, since 8800 in GTX will need 4 six pin molex connectors... I hope that there is some kind of Y adapter from 1 to 2 six pin power in the box. Or is that not a good idea? will it draw too much power for one six pin cable to handle?

?? Note: Two 6-pins supplementary power connectors inside the box
 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
So far no one has answered my 1:02 PM question.

I don't think anyone really can refute the 30% claim... I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this image lopri posted in his G80 thread. This slide shows a gain of 20x over the base reference (onboard graphics) gpu for the 7900 GPU and a 27x gain for the 8800 GPU. Simple math would dictate that this is a 35% increase over G71, which is roughly inline with a 30% gain over an X1950XTX. Now, as to the whether or not the cropped slide is actually from NVIDIA or if the numbers are accurate is anyone's guess.
 

Dethfrumbelo

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Originally posted by: nitromullet
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
So far no one has answered my 1:02 PM question.

I don't think anyone really can refute the 30% claim... I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this image lopri posted in his G80 thread. This slide shows a gain of 20x over the base reference (onboard graphics) gpu for the 7900 GPU and a 27x gain for the 8800 GPU. Simple math would dictate that this is a 35% increase over G71, which is roughly inline with a 30% gain over an X1950XTX. Now, as to the whether or not the cropped slide is actually from NVIDIA or if the numbers are accurate is anyone's guess.

I saw that earlier... now there appears to be more confirmation of its validity. It looks more and more like I'll be passing on this one.




 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: coldpower27
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: josh6079
700 Million is pretty steep for such a nanometer. Why again does the memory not match with the rumor of a dual-core?

Cores might not be identical. Might not be an SLI implementation at all but shaders off on another core? I don't know but it looks like two cores on resistor pack and logically 1 inch of silicone makes no economic sense.

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2610&p=8

I am just interested how would the 2 cores communicate if they were indeed 2 Cores into Multi Die configuration who knows.

I posted a link showing ATI doing it... PIC may be wave of future and NV implementation...