6700K price going up??? Now $399.99 @ Newegg

[Hugo Drax]

Intel for Kaby lake can price the cpu 420 dollars for the K version, and 370 non K.

There is enough demand and its pretty obvious that those prices would be supported by the markets.

Intel should be smart enough to see this and price accordingly for 2017

 

[IndyColtsFan]

CDW sells them for just under $400 (when in stock): https://www.cdw.com/shop/products/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-4-GHz-processor/3814923.aspx?pfm=srh

I must say I am very happy I got my 6600K for $219 back in August.

Even at $360, the 6700K is a hard sell going against $250-$300 4790Ks and $300-400 5820/5930Ks. Of course, maybe this is Intel's way of clearing out old inventory.

 

[dlerious]

Now? Well, it really has been mostly consolidated down to Amazon and Newegg, with TigerDirect bringing up the rear and large regional presences from Fry's and Microcenter. Anyway, many of the other large sites (anyone remember mWave, ZipZoomFly, and Insight?) and companies from many years ago either closed, pivoted to focus on the enterprise market or general consumer market, or were bought out.

I had a sub to Computer Shopper back in the 80's and 90's. I grabbed it mainly for the ads . Don't know if I have any old copies still around to see how many of those businesses are still around.

Started watercooling and I'm finding the same lack of options with stores there (Perfromance PCs, ModMyMods, Aquatuning). I've bought a few things from the EU, but shipping is getting crazy expensive. There used to a lot more small white box type places around, but I think I'd have to drive a few hundred miles to find anything large or small now.

 

[Fjodor2001]

Intel for Kaby lake can price the cpu 420 dollars for the K version, and 370 non K.

There is enough demand and its pretty obvious that those prices would be supported by the markets.

Intel should be smart enough to see this and price accordingly for 2017

Yes, due to the Intel 14 nm yield issues resulting in low number of units produced.

If more "normal" levels of units were produced, there wouldn't be demand to support these high prices. Then at current price level, the units would not sell as fast as they they were produced, resulting in sales channels filling up with stock.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Even at $360, the 6700K is a hard sell going against $250-$300 4790Ks and $300-400 5820/5930Ks. Of course, maybe this is Intel's way of clearing out old inventory.

I don't think they're clearing out old inventory. I think they're trying to draw demand away from the 14nm chips that they can't produce in sufficient quantities so that they don't miss out on sales during the holiday shopping season.

 

[Fjodor2001]

I don't think they're clearing out old inventory.

Regardless of Intel's intentions that's what's going to happen. If people can't get hold of Skylake CPUs at reasonable prices, a lot will fall back to Haswell, thereby clearing out old inventory.

 

[Hugo Drax]

I had a sub to Computer Shopper back in the 80's and 90's. I grabbed it mainly for the ads . Don't know if I have any old copies still around to see how many of those businesses are still around.

Started watercooling and I'm finding the same lack of options with stores there (Perfromance PCs, ModMyMods, Aquatuning). I've bought a few things from the EU, but shipping is getting crazy expensive. There used to a lot more small white box type places around, but I think I'd have to drive a few hundred miles to find anything large or small now.

My wife hated that mag. it was almost as thick as a phonebook

 

[Hugo Drax]

Intel will probably have to go back to a 4 year cycle. it makes no sense to come out with new cpus every year if they only offer a 3% improvement in performance.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Intel will probably have to go back to a 4 year cycle. it makes no sense to come out with new cpus every year if they only offer a 3% improvement in performance.

Uh, why? "3%" better perf/clock every year in CPU+ better 3D graphics + improved media engine + more integration each generation is a clear win for Intel and its customers.

What would be the point in keeping a CPU family around for four years?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I had a sub to Computer Shopper back in the 80's and 90's. I grabbed it mainly for the ads . Don't know if I have any old copies still around to see how many of those businesses are still around.

Started watercooling and I'm finding the same lack of options with stores there (Perfromance PCs, ModMyMods, Aquatuning). I've bought a few things from the EU, but shipping is getting crazy expensive. There used to a lot more small white box type places around, but I think I'd have to drive a few hundred miles to find anything large or small now.

I loved Computer Shopper back in the day - I built my first PC using various vendors I found in one of the issues back in 1995.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Intel will probably have to go back to a 4 year cycle. it makes no sense to come out with new cpus every year if they only offer a 3% improvement in performance.

...and it takes a year to build up enough inventory for general availability.

 

[Fjodor2001]

What would be the point in keeping a CPU family around for four years?

They could save R&D cost. Each CPU generation that is released to the public costs $$$. Has to go through design and verification, new SKUs to be kept in stock, and what not.

From Haswell to Skylake it's been more than 2 years. Basically nobody with a Haswell system will upgrade to Skylake anyway, since there is so little improvement. So they could just as well keep Haswell for another two years, skip Skylake, and then release Cannonlake in 2017Q4/2018Q1. That is if even Cannonlake will be enough reason to justify an upgrade from Haswell at that time.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Regardless of Intel's intentions that's what's going to happen. If people can't get hold of Skylake CPUs at reasonable prices, a lot will fall back to Haswell, thereby clearing out old inventory.

New freshly produced Haswell CPUs are not "old inventory".

 

[TeknoBug]

I loved Computer Shopper back in the day - I built my first PC using various vendors I found in one of the issues back in 1995.

Yup I remember that book. The days before Pricewatch.

 

[crashtech]

No(and yes), because its with 25% VAT. ~460$*0.8=~368$ without VAT.

Wow, that VAT is punishing! US Internet sales are for the most part tax free, for now.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Wow, that VAT is punishing! US Internet sales are for the most part tax free, for now.

As long as we shop in the EU, we pay the local tax. So in that case lower VAT (17-27% across Europe) countries got a benefit over higher in internet sales. But again, its all about wages in the end. 25% VAT however is very easy to calculate with both ways

 

[Sweepr]

Wow, that VAT is punishing! US Internet sales are for the most part tax free, for now.

You guys have some of the lowest prices I can find. We pay some obscene prices for PC hardware here in South America, makes Europe's VAT look cheap.

 

[stockwiz]

Reminds me of .22LR ammunition.. you can never find any ammo anywhere and ammo makers don't want to open more plants for .22LR because they say it's not profitable enough... well when wal-mart sells the ammo for $25 for a brick and people turn around and sell the brick for $50, why don't they just start charging more for the ammo then so it's more profitable and balance out supply and demand so we can actually find the ammo in stock at wal-mart? I'd rather have well stocked .22LR bricks for $50 and an extra ammo plant or 2 built so I don't have to make early morning wal-mart runs and still come up empty handed by the hoarders and resellers who often charge more than $50 anyways.

In any case Intel could temporarily sell their chips for more until they have the supply, rather than letting the resellers like newegg pocket the money. Supply and demand meet and come in balance. I suppose they'd get negative press for that though... better to let the re-seller have the negative press.

 

[ShintaiDK]

In case of Intel, they most likely have contractual pricing with OEMs. So its not really like a price rise as such would yield a great impact. Also it got negative value to attempt to do so. Those retailers that increase prices would just increase it even more. Its not like Newegg would keep selling it at 420$. No, it would just be 450-480$.

Its a temporary situation. Not a permanent one.

 

[dark zero]

In case of Intel, they most likely have contractual pricing with OEMs. So its not really like a price rise as such would yield a great impact. Also it got negative value to attempt to do so. Those retailers that increase prices would just increase it even more. Its not like Newegg would keep selling it at 420$. No, it would just be 450-480$.

Its a temporary situation. Not a permanent one.

I don't think so... withoout any competition, it will stay for a very long time.... D:

 

[ShintaiDK]

I don't think so... withoout any competition, it will stay for a very long time.... D:

You make no sense as always.

Its retailers, not Intel.
And competition wouldn't magically solve a supply issue.

 

[Techhog]

You make no sense as always.

Its retailers, not Intel.
And competition wouldn't magically solve a supply issue.

Actually, it would. Having a viable substitute, even if it's an inferior product, decreases demand, which effectively increases the available supply. The supply issue would have to be far into the extreme end for there to be no significant impact.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Actually, it would. Having a viable substitute, even if it's an inferior product, decreases demand, which effectively increases the available supply. The supply issue would have to be far into the extreme end for there to be no significant impact.

Buy a 4790K then.

 

[Phynaz]

Wow, that VAT is punishing! US Internet sales are for the most part tax free, for now.

That's the bill for "free" healthcare.

 

[crashtech]

That's the bill for "free" healthcare.

I know nothing about European taxation. I thought the VAT was in lieu of income tax, boy was I wrong. They get you coming, going, and everywhere in between over there.