[DHT]Osiris
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Sorry, do you mean to say that your solution is to reduce the total population rather than per-capita energy usage? Not entirely disagreeing with you, just trying to narrow down on your approach.So when do you plan to do something serious that will actually help, like basically jettison the poors? Tens of millions here and billions globally that we expend carbon emissions on and basically just sit around and exist like sea sponges. Just liquidate them and save the world from warming.
Would your solution include killing off Americans? We're the highest per-capita users after all.
My concern with the above is that the current administration in several key areas are ... lacking when it comes to acknowledgement of climate change and addressing the matter. The US is currently trying to curtail environmental improvements, Brazil is on fire, the UK is a hot mess, and most of the other countries (barring a few notable exceptions) are waiting for everyone else to do something. I hope countries 'do things' sooner rather than later but I'm a pessimist.I’ve said it before but there are no fundamental scientific breakthroughs required to reach carbon neutral.
Everyone is aware of the options for carbon neutral power generation, wind, solar, nuclear, & grid storage. Wind and solar have come down to the point where they are competitive with fossil fuels.
What the denier set still likes to harp on is the misperception that carbon neutral must mean the end of cars, meat, air travel, and international shipping.
For air travel, shipping and places where internal combustion engines are required over battery electric there’s carbon neutral fuels. Bio fuels is one type but both the Navy and industry have demonstrated methods to pull CO2 out of the air and synthesize it into hydrocarbons fuel.
https://www.nrl.navy.mil/news/releases/nrl-seawater-carbon-capture-process-receives-us-patent
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...-dioxide-into-fuels-artificial-photosynthesis
Construction also releases a lot of the worlds CO2. Processing steel and concrete especially. But even here progress has been made.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/fortune.com/2019/01/09/boston-metal/amp/
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2185217-the-future-with-lower-carbon-concrete/
Heating concrete currently burns a lot of fossil fuels which can be replaced with alternative energy. Processing also releases a lot of CO2 which those companies aim to reduce. Interestingly as concrete cures it’s actually absorbing CO2 and releasing heat.
Even cow farts (actually burps) can be addressed by adding 1% of a type of seaweed to their feed. It cuts down methane production by over 60%.
https://e360.yale.edu/features/how-eating-seaweed-can-help-cows-to-belch-less-methane
So the doom and gloom coming from @glenn1 and those against doing anything is misplaced.
All though Glenn should be concerned because stopping climate change does require us to take Glenn’s guns (but only his )
Examples?I'm going with what history has shown, that the liberals cry wolf about the consequences regularly.
Weather isn't climate, dummy.Let me give you an example. In the OP, there are a few stories from the 80's saying that the Maldives will be wiped out in 30 years. Now, the people that can't consistently accurately forecast the weather 10 days out are telling us what the weather will cause in 30 years? Guess what. They were wrong. There are may more examples just like it in the OP. Go, explore, see for yourself.
Also, the projected timeline may have been off, but the results are likely to be the same:
Effects of climate change on small island countries - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
The Maldives are an archipelago of far spread, low-lying islands and atolls located in the Indian Ocean. Climate change is severely threatening the very existence of the Maldives as well as diminishing existing human capabilities on these islands. According to the World Bank, with "future sea levels projected to increase in the range of 10 to 100 centimeters by the year 2100, the entire country could be submerged".[9] Obviously this would seriously impact the culture and livelihood of all the citizens of the Maldives. As the President of the Maldives, Maumoon Abdul Gayoom, notes "to the three hundred thousand inhabitants of the Maldives none of these threats compare, in magnitude and likelihood, to global climate change and consequent sea level rise." [10] The majority of the population of the Maldives lives on small, flat, densely populated atolls that are threatened by violent storms or even the slightest sea level rise. The capital Malé is especially threatened because it is on a small, flat, extremely densely populated atoll that is surrounded by sea walls, and other barriers to protect against storms. This means the Malé atoll cannot change shape in response to rising sea levels and is increasingly reliant on expensive engineering solutions.[11] To prepare against climate change and the resulting sea level rise, the national government of the Maldives has prepared a comprehensive National Adaptation Programme of Action, that attempts to critically consider and alleviate many of the serious threats the Maldives faces.[10] The Maldives have already implemented several measures to combat sea level rise including building a wall around the capital of Malé and refurbishing local infrastructure, particularly ports. The Maldives is also taking the lead in attempting to arrest global climate change by instituting a goal of achieving a carbon-neutral economy by 2020. According to the former environment minister for the Maldives, Mohamed Aslam, it is a case of "'If Maldives can do it, you can do it. It's important to us not just to talk but to lead by example".[11] In addition, the local economy of the Maldives is greatly threatened by climate change. One example is the tourism sector which is being threatened by the increased likelihood of violent storms, damage to coral reefs, and beach erosion.