50 Years of Failed Climate Change Predictions

[Paratus]

it's in the article, look it up yourself.

Hansen’s mentioned one time in the article in a prediction about droughts.

So prove me wrong. You normally love too.

Or it’s bullshit. As I thought

 

[imported_tajmahal]

As far as I can tell, none of the sources in that article are scientific journals. There's one letter from a university, which doesn't even make a specific claim. Otherwise, it's a bunch of newspaper articles. There are certainly people who catastrophize climate change, but unless the predictions are appearing in scientific journals they don't matter. I'm sure you can find people making pretty ridiculous claims about almost anything if you looks hard enough. The important question is 'what are the experts saying?'

Much of the alarming climate"facts" that are put out to the public are filtered through biased and partisan media that make errors, either deliberately or accidentally. It's not usually the science that's screwed up, it's the emphasis on unlikely possibilities that are skewed.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Hansen’s mentioned one time in the article in a prediction about droughts.

So prove me wrong. You normally love too.

Or it’s bullshit. As I thought

It's the Seth Borenstein article from 2008 . It's after The Guardian article from 2004 and before the picture of Al Gore.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Link to the study with these predictions please.

No thanks. You only get a couple of bitch slaps a topic, you already got yours.

 

[Paratus]

It's the Seth Borenstein article from 2008 . It's after The Guardian article from 2004 and before the picture of Al Gore.

Thank you

 

[brandonbull]

@SlowSpyder is the climate changing or not changing
If you agree it is changing should we do something about it or not do something about it

I think everybody knows that the climate is constantly changing and has been since day 1 of the Earth's existence. Are people a noticeable contributor of that? Debatable. Should we look for ways to be better stewards of our environment? Yes. Should we be handing over our money and control of our lives to politicians that use climate misinformation and half truths? Nope!

Those climate change pimps and Hollywood elites are no different than the likes of the Joel Osteens and any other charlatan that is looking for money and power by using scare tactics and false narratives.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I think everybody knows that the climate is constantly changing and has been since day 1 of the Earth's existence. Are people a noticeable contributor of that? Debatable. Should we look for ways to be better stewards of our environment? Yes. Should we be handing over our money and control of our lives to politicians that use climate misinformation and half truths? Nope!

Those climate change pimps and Hollywood elites are no different than the likes of the Joel Osteens and any other charlatan that is looking for money and power by using scare tactics and false narratives.

Hey I’m glad you believe it’s changing and I’m glad you agree we should do something.
What would you consider as doing something?

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I think everybody knows that the climate is constantly changing and has been since day 1 of the Earth's existence. Are people a noticeable contributor of that? Debatable. Should we look for ways to be better stewards of our environment? Yes. Should we be handing over our money and control of our lives to politicians that use climate misinformation and half truths? Nope!

Those climate change pimps and Hollywood elites are no different than the likes of the Joel Osteens and any other charlatan that is looking for money and power by using scare tactics and false narratives.

That'll sound super great when you're telling it to your fellow tribe members while huddling around burning garbage once society collapses.

'At least I didn't fall for their dirty liberal tricks!'

 

[imported_tajmahal]

That'll sound super great when you're telling it to your fellow tribe members while huddling around burning garbage once society collapses.

'At least I didn't fall for their dirty liberal tricks!'

Society is going to collapse from 6 inches of sea level rise by 2100 and a degree increase in temp? I doubt it, but by all means stop using all fossil fuels if you like, quit traveling by auto, planes, trains and boats. No more unclean power usage for you! Go for it!

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Society is going to collapse from 6 inches of sea level rise by 2100 and a degree increase in temp? I doubt it, but by all means stop using all fossil fuels if you like, quit traveling by auto, planes, trains and boats. No more unclean power usage for you! Go for it!

Do you even science, bro?

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Do you even science, bro?

My degree says "yes" How about you?

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Society is going to collapse from 6 inches of sea level rise by 2100 and a degree increase in temp? I doubt it, but by all means stop using all fossil fuels if you like, quit traveling by auto, planes, trains and boats. No more unclean power usage for you! Go for it!

Your information is outdated. New IPCC climate models predict temperatures as high as +7c by 2100 if carbon emissions are not curtailed, and that the Paris Climate Accord is no longer sufficient to maintain a 2c cap on temperatures, assuming we could even reach the Paris Climate accord requirements.

Climate change effects to be worse than previous estimates, new study shows

Across Europe, heat waves will become longer and more intense, while the Arctic will be entirely ice-free during summer in the last two decades of this century

www.business-standard.com

What does your science degree tell you about what a +7c change to our climate would do?

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Your information is outdated. New IPCC climate models predict temperatures as high as +7c by 2100 if carbon emissions are not curtailed, and that the Paris Climate Accord is no longer sufficient to maintain a 2c cap on temperatures, assuming we could even reach the Paris Climate accord requirements.

Climate change effects to be worse than previous estimates, new study shows

Across Europe, heat waves will become longer and more intense, while the Arctic will be entirely ice-free during summer in the last two decades of this century

www.business-standard.com

What does your science degree tell you about what a +7c change to our climate would do?

"as high as" File that with the reason for this entire thread.

We are already ahead of the Accord numbers even though we're not a member of it any longer.

Great article on Hurricanes here though.

'Alarmism enforcement' on hurricanes and global warming - Climate Etc.

by Judith Curry I used to be concerned about ‘consensus enforcement’ on the topic of climate change. Now I am concerned about ‘alarmism enforcement.’ Ever since Hurricane Katrina in 2005, any hurricane causing catastrophic damage has been seized upon by … Continue reading →

judithcurry.com

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

My degree says "yes" How about you?

LOL! My Phd in geology and my double masters in climatology beats yours, but since your's is as real as my made up shit, I just made up more things than you.
What a maroon, what an ultra maroon.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

"as high as" File that with the reason for this entire thread.

We are already ahead of the Accord numbers even though we're not a member of it any longer.

Great article on Hurricanes here though.

'Alarmism enforcement' on hurricanes and global warming - Climate Etc.

by Judith Curry I used to be concerned about ‘consensus enforcement’ on the topic of climate change. Now I am concerned about ‘alarmism enforcement.’ Ever since Hurricane Katrina in 2005, any hurricane causing catastrophic damage has been seized upon by … Continue reading →

judithcurry.com

Sorry, you're considering the high-end markers from climate scientists as 'climate alarmism'? You don't sound like a scientist to me, you sound like someone who conforms scientific results to fit his preconceived notions of what the results should be.

 

[dawp]

Another BS thread by SS... avoid!

na, it's fun watching SS make a fool of himself.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Sorry, you're considering the high-end markers from climate scientists as 'climate alarmism'? You don't sound like a scientist to me, you sound like someone who conforms scientific results to fit his preconceived notions of what the results should be.

I'm not a scientist, i'm a Geologist (retired) that finds politics and science enjoyable. I also do my due diligence on the subject. I have no problem accepting climate change and the science behind it, what I have a problem with are the people and groups that exaggerate the issue for power, control and profit.

Sometimes people will talk about how the 8 inches of sea level rise in the last 120 years is impacting cities like Miami, but won't add that the X feet of soil subsidence is what is really driving the problem.

 

[zinfamous]

I'm not sure I've ever seen you post anything but insults? What is wrong with you?

I'm not sure I've seen you post anything but playground fake news bullshit and conspiratory innuendo dumbassary, without any attempt to back any of it up by observable, reported, tested fact.

what is wrong with you?


...this is why you are treated like a child. You post like one. You are one. No one respects you. Engage in adult conversation, and the adults will respond so as deserved. Respect is earned. It doesn't shit out of lilies simply because you walk into a room, you tapeworm.

Go back enough years, when this account of yours was resurrected after a ~decade of complete dormancy, simply to post nonsense Trump horseshit, and you'll see, quite clearly, that myself and the other adults gave this account a chance. It was clear, early on though, that this account is posting useless Russian fake bullshit, nonstop, endlessly. This account doesn't have the typical lack of articles and other obvious grammar errors that will out and shut down the average obvious Russian troll, that has dominated the internet in recent years; but the subject matter is always the same. The responses and targeted fake news talking points are always the same. The simple dishonesty and lack of logic is always the same.

You're a fucking troll. A plant. A useless piece of garbage. This account is pointless. It eats bandwidth. If this account thinks it is doing any kind of work by "converting the dumb librals" on this forum, then it is sorely mistaken. It is a failure. This account serves no purpose other than wasting its own time here.

 

[beginner99]

That they may be. That being said, all they did here was compile a lengthy list of incorrect climate change predictions over the years.

Which shows they fail to understand the scientific method which is about making models that fit (at the time) and then improve them if they are not good enough.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I'm not sure I've seen you post anything but playground fake news bullshit and conspiratory innuendo dumbassary, without any attempt to back any of it up by observable, reported, tested fact.

what is wrong with you?


...this is why you are treated like a child. You post like one. You are one. No one respects you. Engage in adult conversation, and the adults will respond so as deserved. Respect is earned. It doesn't shit out of lilies simply because you walk into a room, you tapeworm.

Go back enough years, when this account of yours was resurrected after a ~decade of complete dormancy, simply to post nonsense Trump horseshit, and you'll see, quite clearly, that myself and the other adults gave this account a chance. It was clear, early on though, that this account is posting useless Russian fake bullshit, nonstop, endlessly. This account doesn't have the typical lack of articles and other obvious grammar errors that will out and shut down the average obvious Russian troll, that has dominated the internet in recent years; but the subject matter is always the same. The responses and targeted fake news talking points are always the same. The simple dishonesty and lack of logic is always the same.

You're a fucking troll. A plant. A useless piece of garbage. This account is pointless. It eats bandwidth. If this account thinks it is doing any kind of work by "converting the dumb librals" on this forum, then it is sorely mistaken. It is a failure. This account serves no purpose other than wasting its own time here.

I can`t argue with the truth!!! Well said!!
Double thumbs up!! Kawabunga dude!!!!!

 

[zinfamous]

This happens every summer in Greenland, always has.

“Sled Dogs In Water” Climate Alarmism Photo Gets Exposed As Bogus By Danish Experts

notrickszone.com

Bjorn Lomborg@BjornLomborg

Oops
Remember that viral sled-on-water picture showing "our ongoing climate catastrophe" (CNN)?
Turns out it is entirely normal, happened in the 1800s, will probably happen *less* with higher temps
But Al Gore wants permission to use it in his slideshowhttps://www.berlingske.dk/samfund/spring-in-greenland-interpreted-as-climate-change-this-is-completely …

lol you dumb bastard.

YOu fell for this circus nonsense.

May God remove your ability to reproduce, and your spawn, so that the simple, craven idiocy of your seed dies with you. This is laughably pathetic.

Do you even try to give a dick about internet forwards that are sent to you? Especially the ones that are targeted at you because your non-critical, dumbrained response is guaranteed?

 

[zinfamous]

it's in the article, look it up yourself.

Read.

You read.

As the adult that you think you are, present what you learned. Do it.

 

[Greenman]

Hey I’m glad you believe it’s changing and I’m glad you agree we should do something.
What would you consider as doing something?

Cutting the population by five billion would make a pretty serious dent in the problem.

 

[zinfamous]

It's something i've been interested in since Sen. Wirth sabotaged a Senate hearing in 1988 that lead to Hansen and Global Warming becoming such a political issue. It's not about science, it's about politics, money and control.

Uh, lolfuckno. You were convinced it became a political, non-science issue, because you are a fucking non-science, single issue idiot. That is plainly obvious to the literate population of the earth.

You've been clowned, and you no longer give a dick about the truth of the world around you. You've asked no questions about anything, clearly since 1988, because you just gave everyone the exact year of the end of your fucking brain. A death that you chose. Which is sad for you and your hellspawn.

Go back to grenading yourself and innocent brown children, you useless carbon lump of murderous shit.

 

[zinfamous]

I think everybody knows that the climate is constantly changing and has been since day 1 of the Earth's existence. Are people a noticeable contributor of that? Debatable. Should we look for ways to be better stewards of our environment? Yes. Should we be handing over our money and control of our lives to politicians that use climate misinformation and half truths? Nope!

Those climate change pimps and Hollywood elites are no different than the likes of the Joel Osteens and any other charlatan that is looking for money and power by using scare tactics and false narratives.

Yes, humans are stupid.

Why do you want to make it so plainly obvious...and embarrassingly so?

Mass extinctions, due to serious climate change, have occurred over and over and over again on this planet, simply due to the output of single dominant species on this planet. These are inarguable facts.

ANd you think it's "debateable" that humans are doing anything.

...what the fuck happened to the idea that education was a good thing? Seriously: what happened to you? Who convinced you that it was actually "cool" to be as blatantly stupid as you are? Does it impress the chicks that you hang out with? I'm honestly curious how your peer group gets along, and breeds among themselves. It's both fascinating and really quite terrifying for the future of our species, because you are basically the end of it. You understand that, right? It's no other way. You're refusal to accept the world that is bitchslapping you in the face, and give a dick about it, is the early end of humanity.