SMOGZINN
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Yes, because he was one of the people that PAID that money into the government. The government that was formed and operates to protect the people that it governs, not the people of Africa who have their own governments that were formed to protect their own people.
If their governments were trying to help them, and failing because of a lack of natural resources or something, I would say help them out, because we will eventually get them back on their feet and then they will pay us back, if not in money then in friendship.
The problem is that there is no plan, no goal, no foreseeable way to actually improve the average lifestyle. For that to happen the people must remember that a government rules at the behest of it's people, and it is the peoples responsibility to enforce that with blood if necessary. Until that day, we are simply thowing good money after bad by 'helping' them. In truth I belive we are doing more harm then good.
Oh you P&N morons, this is ATOT!
My original post was the equal of: OMGWTTBBQ I WANT A MILLION BUCKS!!!one111!111
My original post was the equal of: OMGWTTBBQ I WANT A MILLION BUCKS!!!one111!111
I did some brief estimates, and if you gave 10% of the people who are on disability or welfare (that total number was 5,546,047 people) the 35k or so a year that would do what you are asking above, the cost comes out to $775 billion. Its a great idea, but there is no way it could work!
There's no incentive to make $1,000,000 if taxes are at 75%. People would stop wanting to make money and revenues would drop. Did you grow up in the USSR or something? Did you leave before the empire fell?
funboy6942
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Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Sorry about your situationk, but that's why I have disability insurance. That's why they sell it.Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Originally posted by: funboy42
No they dont the middle and low class doesThe rich have loop holes so they dont have to pay much in taxes and why not. Most of the law makers and people in congress are rich and they need to make sure they stay rich and not give to much.
And that $43318 is the combination of both parents working. The wife is working to pay for the babysitter and child care if they have any. And if not they may not be able to afford to have childreen. Lets send more money to africa not here where the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor and can never get out of thier hole to do something with thier lives and be more productive in the US.
That's a load of sh[/b]it. I've gone from growing up living under the poverty level to just recently graduating college. It took a lot of work, but it's possible if you want it.
Load of sh1t huh. Well I went from making a living to getting fvcked up and not being able to work anymore. I live in a trailer with 2 of my boys, I am on welfair and my wife makes only $7 an hour and works full time. Because of my disability I couldnt do the same work as before. Also because of my disability IF I was able to find a job where it wasnt moraly wrong who would pay me just to sit there. A home job is out because I live in a trailer with no roon at all and screaming kids all day long. We can only afford one car because fuel is to much and insurance on another car we couldnt afford per month payments NOR to pay it off for the year. Ontop of that IF I got a job it would pay so low we would never be able to pay off the child care for my childreen. Someone to pick up my oldest during school and to watch my youngest all day till one of us got home. Then durring the summer to have someone watch them all day long. Do you think $7 an hour would pay fo rthat when it costs more then $7 an hour to watch two kids?
Now welfair doesnt give you that much. Because my wife is working we dont get any cash and the ammount in food stamps we get is BARLEY enough for a family of 4 to live on and hardly any snacks with just regular food ($300 for a month). After the bills are paid and the extra money we have to use on milk eggs and other things needed during the month there is no money left over from her checks.
Ontop of all of this welfair in Indiana is set up so that if I got any kind of money at all I may have to pay them back for all they gave me yet ONCE again not having the funds to pull me out of my hole because I may have to give them all I got depending on how long they have been giving you support.
So if your wife is barly making enough, you get some money and they take you off the system. The money you had is now gone to pay them back and cant get yourself re-trained or wife trained for a better job so she is still stuck making $7 and with NO assistance at all you are ONCE AGAIN forced to go back on welfair with no chance of ever getting out of your hell hole.
Now I will agree with you that if you are an able body and can do something about your situation there should be no reason. BUT I am not the only one that went from lower midddle class to near homeless because of a disability. THE only way I could ever better myself is if I got some money that got me out of my hole, paid everyone off, and was enough to get me or my wofe reschooled or purchase a house with a office and some money to invest to start an at home job.
So kinda hard when you dont have the means without some outside help (when your in my situation) to better yourself because the system is set up to keep you in the system as long as possable.
I think some money should be put aside for people in my situation that all of a sudden the wife quickly has to take over and your forced into a near homless situation. Should be set up to get you into a better home, money to support your family till someone can get retrained into a better carrer where they can afford to stay afloat and slowly pay back a portion of what was given to them. This kind of support should be give to only familys liek us. Someone that jsut doesnt want to work, has nothing worng or even cares enough about themselves to do something shouldnt be allowed to take part in the program. But in our case where we were trully stuck with no way of getting out because of our situation and what had happended with a family that needs that kind of help to make a better life because everything would be taken care of while they can focus only on school to better themselves quickly there should be something doen about making that a reality.
For us if I hadnt gotten the lawsuit from workers comp we would be stuck being trailer trash and poor the rest of our lives. Hopefully because the federal government can tax the ammount I got that State of Indiana wont ask for me to repay the welfair money. If they do I am trully screwed big time.
OMFG even if I had the insurance it doesnt pay for everythign just a very small part. I had it at one time. Everyone seems to always have the answer when it never happens to them. They think nothing bad could happen its no big deal. Will I wish for alot of you who think like I used to think that what has happend to us never happends to you. You will get a huge slap in the face on how everything really works in this world and take back every comment you had ever made against people on welfair or who are disabled.
You are one incredibly bitter person. You'd be a lot happier if you weren't so angry about your situation.
Wouldnt you be bitter that in one day your whole life changed and everything you were able to do your couldnt? Wouldnt you be bitter that the people that are set up to help you will not because your not the right color of skin but white and supposed to NEVER go on welfair. Or how about once you get it your life wast taken from you forcing your wife to have to pull in an income that doesnt make enough to better yourself. Or how about if you did welfair takes some stuff away from you making you pay for it keeping you in the same situation being poor.
So yes I am bitter because I had my life and my familys life taken from us in the blink of an eye and I couldnt do anything about it or to get us out and the people who gave us money was enough just to keep us where we were and not get out. People like us need that extra help and not send billions to Africa when that help can make us productive again.
Sound to me like the ONLY problem with you family though is that you can't make as much money. You've got a wife who sticks by you and obviously cares for you and your kids, you're looking at getting a house if I remember correctly... The rest of your life will SUCK if you play woulda shoulda coulda for the remainder of it. You've got good kids who you love and who love you. Don't let a bad attitude diminish that.
OH no please dont get me wrong on that. I am beyond lucky to have a wife and childreen that would stick with me though all the hell we been put through. I am making a point about how if it wasnt for the lawsuit we would be stuck for the rest of our lives. That the welfaire and government system would of kept us there forever. And no I dont think that because I am american that the Africans shouldnt get any support. But I do think that support here would be needed first to help thoes like me to better themselves and become something again and part of sociaty (SP)
The money I got was enough to put us into a real home, money in our pockets, and enough left over to start an at home job or pay for schooling so that we could afford to keep it all and not have to rely on welfair ever again. This is what is needed for people that was in my same situation instead of given enough to just live on. Im disabled and I want to do more then just sit here and wait to die and thats all that would of happend to me if we stayed on welfair and in our situation. And thats all welfair will do unless something gets done because once your sucked in it doesnt end. You make money they take more away that was given yet again keeping you poor.
Case in point when my wife made a huge rase going from $6.70 an hour to $7 they said it was too much and took insurance away from my wife and I. I am disabled with high blood pressure, diabeties, and high cholosterol to name a few more problems I have. We have no insurance so what do we do now?? My pills cost over $400 a month my wife makes less the $1000 a month. To get me insured along with here we may be talking over $500+ per month. So either route IF we spend the money for insurance or pills were screwed but the welfair didnt take that into effect. My wifes 30 cent raise put us over the limit causing me not to be able to affor my pills in the last month while I get to sit here and die slowy. I have called and told her that because of what they did my blood bressure is out the roof, I suffer from migranes because of it and were talkign my blood pressure is so high that I should be in the hospital right now because I can keel over any second of a heart attack or stroke (190/125 right now I jsut took it) but didnt matter to her. I called the insurance company they couldnt do anything, I even called my doctor and she wants me to pay $50 to go see her to write me a prescription for drugs we cant afford till my check comes sometime this week.
So as you can see it doesnt work in any way and the governemebnt knows this and keeps it this way so they can tax the rich and middle class. Do you really think all the money they get for the wefair programs goes all into it. Come on its the governement and its currupt and you know someone is lining thier pockets. If it was it would be set up to help get out of it but they need that steady stream of money coming in so how better to do it but keep you where your at.
And now you all should be happy because I need to calm down somehow and get my blood pressure down before I do die right away.
SMOGZINN
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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Originally posted by: funboy42
No they dont the middle and low class does
And that $43318 is the combination of both parents working. The wife is working to pay for the babysitter and child care if they have any. And if not they may not be able to afford to have childreen. Lets send more money to africa not here where the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor and can never get out of thier hole to do something with thier lives and be more productive in the US.
That's a load of sh[/b]it. I've gone from growing up living under the poverty level to just recently graduating college. It took a lot of work, but it's possible if you want it.
Load of sh1t huh. Well I went from making a living to getting fvcked up and not being able to work anymore. I live in a trailer with 2 of my boys, I am on welfair and my wife makes only $7 an hour and works full time. Because of my disability I couldnt do the same work as before. Also because of my disability IF I was able to find a job where it wasnt moraly wrong who would pay me just to sit there. A home job is out because I live in a trailer with no roon at all and screaming kids all day long. We can only afford one car because fuel is to much and insurance on another car we couldnt afford per month payments NOR to pay it off for the year. Ontop of that IF I got a job it would pay so low we would never be able to pay off the child care for my childreen. Someone to pick up my oldest during school and to watch my youngest all day till one of us got home. Then durring the summer to have someone watch them all day long. Do you think $7 an hour would pay fo rthat when it costs more then $7 an hour to watch two kids?
Now welfair doesnt give you that much. Because my wife is working we dont get any cash and the ammount in food stamps we get is BARLEY enough for a family of 4 to live on and hardly any snacks with just regular food ($300 for a month). After the bills are paid and the extra money we have to use on milk eggs and other things needed during the month there is no money left over from her checks.
Ontop of all of this welfair in Indiana is set up so that if I got any kind of money at all I may have to pay them back for all they gave me yet ONCE again not having the funds to pull me out of my hole because I may have to give them all I got depending on how long they have been giving you support.
So if your wife is barly making enough, you get some money and they take you off the system. The money you had is now gone to pay them back and cant get yourself re-trained or wife trained for a better job so she is still stuck making $7 and with NO assistance at all you are ONCE AGAIN forced to go back on welfair with no chance of ever getting out of your hell hole.
Now I will agree with you that if you are an able body and can do something about your situation there should be no reason. BUT I am not the only one that went from lower midddle class to near homeless because of a disability. THE only way I could ever better myself is if I got some money that got me out of my hole, paid everyone off, and was enough to get me or my wofe reschooled or purchase a house with a office and some money to invest to start an at home job.
So kinda hard when you dont have the means without some outside help (when your in my situation) to better yourself because the system is set up to keep you in the system as long as possable.
You seem to be affording internet access just fine.
And by his sig, he seems to have a nice car, and his heatware shows that he has been buying and selling pretty regularly. Me thinks something is amis.
I am a proud American, but I firmly believe this is true, and it's evil. Our government is the best planet Earth has to offer, but it still is horrifically corrupt.
TO SOUTHPAW:
The top 1% of income earners pay about 32% of all income taxes. The top 5% pays 51.4%. ... (Top 50% of Wage Earners Pay 96.09% of Income Taxes).
The top 1% of income earners pay about 32% of all income taxes. The top 5% pays 51.4%. ... (Top 50% of Wage Earners Pay 96.09% of Income Taxes).
Originally posted by: SMOGZINN
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Originally posted by: funboy42
No they dont the middle and low class does
And that $43318 is the combination of both parents working. The wife is working to pay for the babysitter and child care if they have any. And if not they may not be able to afford to have childreen. Lets send more money to africa not here where the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor and can never get out of thier hole to do something with thier lives and be more productive in the US.
That's a load of sh[/b]it. I've gone from growing up living under the poverty level to just recently graduating college. It took a lot of work, but it's possible if you want it.
Load of sh1t huh. Well I went from making a living to getting fvcked up and not being able to work anymore. I live in a trailer with 2 of my boys, I am on welfair and my wife makes only $7 an hour and works full time. Because of my disability I couldnt do the same work as before. Also because of my disability IF I was able to find a job where it wasnt moraly wrong who would pay me just to sit there. A home job is out because I live in a trailer with no roon at all and screaming kids all day long. We can only afford one car because fuel is to much and insurance on another car we couldnt afford per month payments NOR to pay it off for the year. Ontop of that IF I got a job it would pay so low we would never be able to pay off the child care for my childreen. Someone to pick up my oldest during school and to watch my youngest all day till one of us got home. Then durring the summer to have someone watch them all day long. Do you think $7 an hour would pay fo rthat when it costs more then $7 an hour to watch two kids?
Now welfair doesnt give you that much. Because my wife is working we dont get any cash and the ammount in food stamps we get is BARLEY enough for a family of 4 to live on and hardly any snacks with just regular food ($300 for a month). After the bills are paid and the extra money we have to use on milk eggs and other things needed during the month there is no money left over from her checks.
Ontop of all of this welfair in Indiana is set up so that if I got any kind of money at all I may have to pay them back for all they gave me yet ONCE again not having the funds to pull me out of my hole because I may have to give them all I got depending on how long they have been giving you support.
So if your wife is barly making enough, you get some money and they take you off the system. The money you had is now gone to pay them back and cant get yourself re-trained or wife trained for a better job so she is still stuck making $7 and with NO assistance at all you are ONCE AGAIN forced to go back on welfair with no chance of ever getting out of your hell hole.
Now I will agree with you that if you are an able body and can do something about your situation there should be no reason. BUT I am not the only one that went from lower midddle class to near homeless because of a disability. THE only way I could ever better myself is if I got some money that got me out of my hole, paid everyone off, and was enough to get me or my wofe reschooled or purchase a house with a office and some money to invest to start an at home job.
So kinda hard when you dont have the means without some outside help (when your in my situation) to better yourself because the system is set up to keep you in the system as long as possable.
You seem to be affording internet access just fine.
And by his sig, he seems to have a nice car, and his heatware shows that he has been buying and selling pretty regularly. Me thinks something is amis.
I seriously doubt that is his car.
This whole thread makes me really appreciate what I have. And also makes me thankful that I save a majority of my paycheck.
iversonyin
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Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Originally posted by: funboy42
No they dont the middle and low class does
And that $43318 is the combination of both parents working. The wife is working to pay for the babysitter and child care if they have any. And if not they may not be able to afford to have childreen. Lets send more money to africa not here where the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor and can never get out of thier hole to do something with thier lives and be more productive in the US.
That's a load of sh[/b]it. I've gone from growing up living under the poverty level to just recently graduating college. It took a lot of work, but it's possible if you want it.
Load of sh1t huh. Well I went from making a living to getting fvcked up and not being able to work anymore. I live in a trailer with 2 of my boys, I am on welfair and my wife makes only $7 an hour and works full time. Because of my disability I couldnt do the same work as before. Also because of my disability IF I was able to find a job where it wasnt moraly wrong who would pay me just to sit there. A home job is out because I live in a trailer with no roon at all and screaming kids all day long. We can only afford one car because fuel is to much and insurance on another car we couldnt afford per month payments NOR to pay it off for the year. Ontop of that IF I got a job it would pay so low we would never be able to pay off the child care for my childreen. Someone to pick up my oldest during school and to watch my youngest all day till one of us got home. Then durring the summer to have someone watch them all day long. Do you think $7 an hour would pay fo rthat when it costs more then $7 an hour to watch two kids?
Now welfair doesnt give you that much. Because my wife is working we dont get any cash and the ammount in food stamps we get is BARLEY enough for a family of 4 to live on and hardly any snacks with just regular food ($300 for a month). After the bills are paid and the extra money we have to use on milk eggs and other things needed during the month there is no money left over from her checks.
Ontop of all of this welfair in Indiana is set up so that if I got any kind of money at all I may have to pay them back for all they gave me yet ONCE again not having the funds to pull me out of my hole because I may have to give them all I got depending on how long they have been giving you support.
So if your wife is barly making enough, you get some money and they take you off the system. The money you had is now gone to pay them back and cant get yourself re-trained or wife trained for a better job so she is still stuck making $7 and with NO assistance at all you are ONCE AGAIN forced to go back on welfair with no chance of ever getting out of your hell hole.
Now I will agree with you that if you are an able body and can do something about your situation there should be no reason. BUT I am not the only one that went from lower midddle class to near homeless because of a disability. THE only way I could ever better myself is if I got some money that got me out of my hole, paid everyone off, and was enough to get me or my wofe reschooled or purchase a house with a office and some money to invest to start an at home job.
So kinda hard when you dont have the means without some outside help (when your in my situation) to better yourself because the system is set up to keep you in the system as long as possable.
I think some money should be put aside for people in my situation that all of a sudden the wife quickly has to take over and your forced into a near homless situation. Should be set up to get you into a better home, money to support your family till someone can get retrained into a better carrer where they can afford to stay afloat and slowly pay back a portion of what was given to them. This kind of support should be give to only familys liek us. Someone that jsut doesnt want to work, has nothing worng or even cares enough about themselves to do something shouldnt be allowed to take part in the program. But in our case where we were trully stuck with no way of getting out because of our situation and what had happended with a family that needs that kind of help to make a better life because everything would be taken care of while they can focus only on school to better themselves quickly there should be something doen about making that a reality.
For us if I hadnt gotten the lawsuit from workers comp we would be stuck being trailer trash and poor the rest of our lives. Hopefully because the federal government can tax the ammount I got that State of Indiana wont ask for me to repay the welfair money. If they do I am trully screwed big time.
That is just an excuse. Granted that you are disable and its tougher to find jobs. But I'm sure there places that hire people. Posting on ATOT and complaining about how the system doesn't work out for you its BULL. My parents came to this country with NOTHING, and they work hard 12hrs a day and 6 days a week. This country is full of opportunity rather you are disabled or new to the country. My parents speak 0 english and yet they can make enough to put me thru college.
Whatever your disability is, a hand or a leg, there is white collar job that just require you to sit in front of the computer and do some admin job. I don't know why you are even in this situation. If you would've take advantage of the education system here, I doubt you would be in the same place as you are.
I also notice you are actively trading on the forum(from your heat)...that mean you do have some source of income for your hobby. If you have income for your hobby, why not get books that teach you how to invest. You can type such long paragraph on ATOT and don't have the time to get a job?! You are a joke.
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If the government give you x amount of money every month, what are you going to do with it? You going to spend on stuff that you regularly wouldn't buy. You wouldn't bother to at least save it. You are in your situation because you failed to save/invest when you can work before. Now you blame other people for your misfortune or want other people to pay for it.
If he can't afford a car and his wife has to take hers to work exactly how does he get a job? I guess being disabled means he should have to walk to work as well.
funboy6942
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Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Originally posted by: funboy42
No they dont the middle and low class does
And that $43318 is the combination of both parents working. The wife is working to pay for the babysitter and child care if they have any. And if not they may not be able to afford to have childreen. Lets send more money to africa not here where the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor and can never get out of thier hole to do something with thier lives and be more productive in the US.
That's a load of sh[/b]it. I've gone from growing up living under the poverty level to just recently graduating college. It took a lot of work, but it's possible if you want it.
Load of sh1t huh. Well I went from making a living to getting fvcked up and not being able to work anymore. I live in a trailer with 2 of my boys, I am on welfair and my wife makes only $7 an hour and works full time. Because of my disability I couldnt do the same work as before. Also because of my disability IF I was able to find a job where it wasnt moraly wrong who would pay me just to sit there. A home job is out because I live in a trailer with no roon at all and screaming kids all day long. We can only afford one car because fuel is to much and insurance on another car we couldnt afford per month payments NOR to pay it off for the year. Ontop of that IF I got a job it would pay so low we would never be able to pay off the child care for my childreen. Someone to pick up my oldest during school and to watch my youngest all day till one of us got home. Then durring the summer to have someone watch them all day long. Do you think $7 an hour would pay fo rthat when it costs more then $7 an hour to watch two kids?
Now welfair doesnt give you that much. Because my wife is working we dont get any cash and the ammount in food stamps we get is BARLEY enough for a family of 4 to live on and hardly any snacks with just regular food ($300 for a month). After the bills are paid and the extra money we have to use on milk eggs and other things needed during the month there is no money left over from her checks.
Ontop of all of this welfair in Indiana is set up so that if I got any kind of money at all I may have to pay them back for all they gave me yet ONCE again not having the funds to pull me out of my hole because I may have to give them all I got depending on how long they have been giving you support.
So if your wife is barly making enough, you get some money and they take you off the system. The money you had is now gone to pay them back and cant get yourself re-trained or wife trained for a better job so she is still stuck making $7 and with NO assistance at all you are ONCE AGAIN forced to go back on welfair with no chance of ever getting out of your hell hole.
Now I will agree with you that if you are an able body and can do something about your situation there should be no reason. BUT I am not the only one that went from lower midddle class to near homeless because of a disability. THE only way I could ever better myself is if I got some money that got me out of my hole, paid everyone off, and was enough to get me or my wofe reschooled or purchase a house with a office and some money to invest to start an at home job.
So kinda hard when you dont have the means without some outside help (when your in my situation) to better yourself because the system is set up to keep you in the system as long as possable.
I think some money should be put aside for people in my situation that all of a sudden the wife quickly has to take over and your forced into a near homless situation. Should be set up to get you into a better home, money to support your family till someone can get retrained into a better carrer where they can afford to stay afloat and slowly pay back a portion of what was given to them. This kind of support should be give to only familys liek us. Someone that jsut doesnt want to work, has nothing worng or even cares enough about themselves to do something shouldnt be allowed to take part in the program. But in our case where we were trully stuck with no way of getting out because of our situation and what had happended with a family that needs that kind of help to make a better life because everything would be taken care of while they can focus only on school to better themselves quickly there should be something doen about making that a reality.
For us if I hadnt gotten the lawsuit from workers comp we would be stuck being trailer trash and poor the rest of our lives. Hopefully because the federal government can tax the ammount I got that State of Indiana wont ask for me to repay the welfair money. If they do I am trully screwed big time.
That is just an excuse. Granted that you are disable and its tougher to find jobs. But I'm sure there places that hire people. Posting on ATOT and complaining about how the system doesn't work out for you its BULL. My parents came to this country with NOTHING, and they work hard 12hrs a day and 6 days a week. This country is full of opportunity rather you are disabled or new to the country. My parents speak 0 english and yet they can make enough to put me thru college.
Whatever your disability is, a hand or a leg, there is white collar job that just require you to sit in front of the computer and do some admin job. I don't know why you are even in this situation. If you would've take advantage of the education system here, I doubt you would be in the same place as you are.
I also notice you are actively trading on the forum(from your heat)...that mean you do have some source of income for your hobby. If you have income for your hobby, why not get books that teach you how to invest. You can type such long paragraph on ATOT and don't have the time to get a job?! You are a joke.
Yeah I been selling my stuff so I can get other suff and not using up the money we been getting
Again god forbid I do something other then sit here and wait to die that would be soooooo wrong of me to do so. And how can anyone even begine to think I own that car in the picture. Im wearing walmart clothes and velcro shoes for christs sakes.
iversonyin
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Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Originally posted by: funboy42
No they dont the middle and low class does
And that $43318 is the combination of both parents working. The wife is working to pay for the babysitter and child care if they have any. And if not they may not be able to afford to have childreen. Lets send more money to africa not here where the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor and can never get out of thier hole to do something with thier lives and be more productive in the US.
That's a load of sh[/b]it. I've gone from growing up living under the poverty level to just recently graduating college. It took a lot of work, but it's possible if you want it.
Load of sh1t huh. Well I went from making a living to getting fvcked up and not being able to work anymore. I live in a trailer with 2 of my boys, I am on welfair and my wife makes only $7 an hour and works full time. Because of my disability I couldnt do the same work as before. Also because of my disability IF I was able to find a job where it wasnt moraly wrong who would pay me just to sit there. A home job is out because I live in a trailer with no roon at all and screaming kids all day long. We can only afford one car because fuel is to much and insurance on another car we couldnt afford per month payments NOR to pay it off for the year. Ontop of that IF I got a job it would pay so low we would never be able to pay off the child care for my childreen. Someone to pick up my oldest during school and to watch my youngest all day till one of us got home. Then durring the summer to have someone watch them all day long. Do you think $7 an hour would pay fo rthat when it costs more then $7 an hour to watch two kids?
Now welfair doesnt give you that much. Because my wife is working we dont get any cash and the ammount in food stamps we get is BARLEY enough for a family of 4 to live on and hardly any snacks with just regular food ($300 for a month). After the bills are paid and the extra money we have to use on milk eggs and other things needed during the month there is no money left over from her checks.
Ontop of all of this welfair in Indiana is set up so that if I got any kind of money at all I may have to pay them back for all they gave me yet ONCE again not having the funds to pull me out of my hole because I may have to give them all I got depending on how long they have been giving you support.
So if your wife is barly making enough, you get some money and they take you off the system. The money you had is now gone to pay them back and cant get yourself re-trained or wife trained for a better job so she is still stuck making $7 and with NO assistance at all you are ONCE AGAIN forced to go back on welfair with no chance of ever getting out of your hell hole.
Now I will agree with you that if you are an able body and can do something about your situation there should be no reason. BUT I am not the only one that went from lower midddle class to near homeless because of a disability. THE only way I could ever better myself is if I got some money that got me out of my hole, paid everyone off, and was enough to get me or my wofe reschooled or purchase a house with a office and some money to invest to start an at home job.
So kinda hard when you dont have the means without some outside help (when your in my situation) to better yourself because the system is set up to keep you in the system as long as possable.
I think some money should be put aside for people in my situation that all of a sudden the wife quickly has to take over and your forced into a near homless situation. Should be set up to get you into a better home, money to support your family till someone can get retrained into a better carrer where they can afford to stay afloat and slowly pay back a portion of what was given to them. This kind of support should be give to only familys liek us. Someone that jsut doesnt want to work, has nothing worng or even cares enough about themselves to do something shouldnt be allowed to take part in the program. But in our case where we were trully stuck with no way of getting out because of our situation and what had happended with a family that needs that kind of help to make a better life because everything would be taken care of while they can focus only on school to better themselves quickly there should be something doen about making that a reality.
For us if I hadnt gotten the lawsuit from workers comp we would be stuck being trailer trash and poor the rest of our lives. Hopefully because the federal government can tax the ammount I got that State of Indiana wont ask for me to repay the welfair money. If they do I am trully screwed big time.
That is just an excuse. Granted that you are disable and its tougher to find jobs. But I'm sure there places that hire people. Posting on ATOT and complaining about how the system doesn't work out for you its BULL. My parents came to this country with NOTHING, and they work hard 12hrs a day and 6 days a week. This country is full of opportunity rather you are disabled or new to the country. My parents speak 0 english and yet they can make enough to put me thru college.
Whatever your disability is, a hand or a leg, there is white collar job that just require you to sit in front of the computer and do some admin job. I don't know why you are even in this situation. If you would've take advantage of the education system here, I doubt you would be in the same place as you are.
I also notice you are actively trading on the forum(from your heat)...that mean you do have some source of income for your hobby. If you have income for your hobby, why not get books that teach you how to invest. You can type such long paragraph on ATOT and don't have the time to get a job?! You are a joke.
Yeah I been selling my stuff so I can get other suff and not using up the money we been getting
That is so wrong of you. Computer parts, playstaion game, those aren't investment for your career nor help you in anyway to feed your family. You have so much time to post on ATOT, why not go out and try to get a job. At least go to a bar and meet new people that might able to help you.
That is exactly why I'm against the system you are proposing. You are sitting home, going on ATOT and watching TV. Buying and selling computer parts. NONE of what you do HELP yourself nor your family. If we were to give you more money, what you you do? BUY more junks and use it to pay off your interenet/cable TV...etc.
When people talk about "affording" a car, they usually own a Hyundai Elantra or something similar.
He could try riding a bike. You can get one for about $60, and since he blows that on internet access it should be no problem to afford one.
Kudos to everyone who saw his heatware, shouldve caught that myself.
This poster seems more and more like a sad, lazy, bitter individual who doesn't want to take care of himself and his family because he can get society to pay for it. What a leech. :|
Bought items:
6/11/05: sold funboy a logitech momo racing wheel and a copy of real race g2 with rc controller joystick
5/28/05: Tiger Woods for Sony PSP system
3/26/05: ATI TV Wonder
3/18/05: Sapphire Theatrix TV capture card
Thats in this calendar year alone. So full of sh*t.
iversonyin
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How about going on the internet and find a job. Theres only 1000000 career website. Posting on ATOT and whining about his situation helps right?
I totally agree with Zendari. He is just a lazy bitter sad whiner.
Vic
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Meh. The older brother of a friend of mine was severely paralyzed in a car accident when he was ~20. He can't use his legs and has very limited use of his hands and arms. He doesn't even have the strength to dress himself or lift himself into his wheelchair. This is a guy who you look at with his obviously crippled and twisted body and you immediately feel sorry for. Yet today, in his mid-40's, he makes over $200k/yr. as a computer programmer, and has a huge portfolio of investments and rental properties, having gone back to school AFTER his accident. I guess it's all attitude...
iversonyin
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YUP, its all what you set out to do and this country allow you to do it. That is the different between a whiner and a go-getter.
People like him make America so great. I mean, my friends in high school's parents had to escape Iran on a camel and ride through the desert for several days simply because they were Jewish. Within a decade or two they live in mansions in Beverly Hills. Ban Funboy.
Oh and they came to America with NOTHING.
Hell, same with my parents. Came here with nothing. I remember growing up in Koreatown with gunshots every week. We're doing just fine.
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