2022 US midterms election watch party/thread

[uallas5]

Not even if he doesnt run as independent. Many MAGAtards would write him in wasting their votes

Maybe start a rumor from "Q" that they need to do this if he doesn't run? Tell them that JFK Jr said it was a good idea.

 

[Pens1566]

Woohoo, possibly 52?

No. NV and AZ with GA in the runoff would be 51.

 

[MrSquished]

Unless you're regularly mingling in Republican-land I think a good deal of people on the left don't actually understand the dynamic Trump plays with the Republican party. Everybody knows Trump is an asshole. Almost all of his voters are completely aware of this. I would be willing to bet that more than half of the people who vote for Trump don't actually even like him on a personal level. People who vote for Trump do so as a shield against the things they do not like on the left. That's it. Republicans feel threatened by the left and Trump is the savior and it doesn't matter what he does or how he does it so long as he shields them in the end. He can shoot someone in the middle of the street or grab you by the pussy, it doesn't matter, he's still going to get votes because liberals are that much worse. There's no mystery nor secret here, it's honestly that simple. Humans love making things complicated.

As for DeSantis / Trump, if Trump runs they're going to obviously vote for Trump. But Republicans at this point would like to break free of Trump's baggage and DeSantis is a clean slate and by doing shit like shipping immigrants to Martha's Vineyard, to taking on Disney, declaring war against 'wokeism,' so forth and so on, Republicans love this shit. If Trump and DeSantis go head to head DeSantis will win. I personally know of exactly zero Republicans that want Trump over DeSantis, even prior to the win in Florida they already wanted DeSantis. I'm even including Trump supporters I know who have attended Trump rallies.

Here's a fun experiment. If you know a Republican ask if they want Trump or DeSantis. The answer isn't going to be Trump. If DeSantis wins the R primary and runs for the presidency then Democrats might actually see that supposed red wave that was alleged to occur the other day.

2 years is an eternity in politics, and we have no idea who the Dems will nominate, or what happens to DeSantis. Remember in 2008, two years before that it was definitely going to be Hilary's year - and Obama stole that right out from under her..

But there is one guarantee here. If Trump and Desantis run - it will get ugly, and that will only be good for the Dems.

 

[Thump553]

Imagine if GOP didn't push the character build sliders all the way to max for "Evil", "Stupid" and "Unlikable".

If they had just taken a slightly more reasonable pass with non looney candidates this would be a very different election.

Time to see how much self reflection is in the party.

I think you are 100% correct, but I'd also point out the chances of such self-reflection are almost nill.

 

[uallas5]

No. NV and AZ with GA in the runoff would be 51.

Still it would be nice for the GA runoff to happen with the Dems already having 50. That way all the people who don't really want to vote for Walker but would hold their nose to do so would prob stay home.

 

[fskimospy]

Unless you're regularly mingling in Republican-land I think a good deal of people on the left don't actually understand the dynamic Trump plays with the Republican party. Everybody knows Trump is an asshole. Almost all of his voters are completely aware of this. I would be willing to bet that more than half of the people who vote for Trump don't actually even like him on a personal level. People who vote for Trump do so as a shield against the things they do not like on the left. That's it. Republicans feel threatened by the left and Trump is the savior and it doesn't matter what he does or how he does it so long as he shields them in the end. He can shoot someone in the middle of the street or grab you by the pussy, it doesn't matter, he's still going to get votes because liberals are that much worse. There's no mystery nor secret here, it's honestly that simple. Humans love making things complicated.

As for DeSantis / Trump, if Trump runs they're going to obviously vote for Trump. But Republicans at this point would like to break free of Trump's baggage and DeSantis is a clean slate and by doing shit like shipping immigrants to Martha's Vineyard, to taking on Disney, declaring war against 'wokeism,' so forth and so on, Republicans love this shit. If Trump and DeSantis go head to head DeSantis will win. I personally know of exactly zero Republicans that want Trump over DeSantis, even prior to the win in Florida they already wanted DeSantis. I'm even including Trump supporters I know who have attended Trump rallies.

Here's a fun experiment. If you know a Republican ask if they want Trump or DeSantis. The answer isn't going to be Trump. If DeSantis wins the R primary and runs for the presidency then Democrats might actually see that supposed red wave that was alleged to occur the other day.

Yes, Trump is a weak candidate as I've always said and Republicans would very likely do better.

While I agree that hatred for liberals is the primary animating force behind the Republican Party I don't agree at all that Republicans don't like Trump. Not only do the polls indicate they like him a lot, I also think while they don't always admit it the Republican base greatly enjoys Trump's sadism. They don't just want to win, they want the person who wins to crush their enemies - they don't just want liberals out of power, they want to see them suffer. DeSantis and other hopefuls understand this, which is why you see them take every opportunity to crush and dominate entities that the base thinks of as liberal.

A more sane person might think 'my god, my base are monsters, let's do something else' but here we are.

 

[HomerJS]

..

 

[Muse]

All these reports of Trump being apoplectic and blaming everyone but himself, love it.

The loser loses again, while DeSantis won his state (finger on the scale as usual though) and is rubbing it in Trump's face.

Trump is a complete moron, just no idea what he is talking about or what is happening around him, just clueless.

Same goes for his base, that's a big part of his appeal. Magnet for the clueless. The trail of his comet tail will drag on, fading though, for decades. Part of the detritus of American history. Ah, that glorious time when we were right, even when we were wrong. The false paradise of neurosis.

A Politician
by E. E. Cummings
a politician is an arse upon
which everyone has sat except a man

 

[Commodus]

Umm, I wouldn't be this overconfident. Trump would defeat Kamala Harris, almost certainly IMHO. She just turns a lot of people off, including Black men. I don't know if Liz Warren runs again, but Trump has a "fair fight" against her as well. There are still a lot of Muricans who are at least "hesitant" about a female POTUS.

Maybe, but then I wouldn't count on Harris running and think Warren would still have a shot. I just hope Biden realizes that, if he runs in 2024, people will vote for him mainly because he's Not Trump.

 

[HomerJS]

Wanna see something funny??
Donald Trump blames Melania for advising him to back Dr. Oz: reports (eastbaytimes.com)

Wanna see something funnier? Trump apologizes to Melania and blamed the media for quoting him blaming Melania
Trump says 'I'd like to apologize to Melania' on behalf of news outlets that reported he blamed her for his failed endorsement of Dr. Oz (msn.com)

 

[Pens1566]

Still it would be nice for the GA runoff to happen with the Dems already having 50. That way all the people who don't really want to vote for Walker but would hold their nose to do so would prob stay home.

Oh, I agree. If the NV and AZ seats go D then the GA runoff should be much more of a D win due to decreased GQP enthusiasm. And 51 is always better than 50. Makes one of Sinema/Manchin irrelevant.

 

[MrSquished]

With 98% reported, looks like Boebert has pulled ahead by about 400 votes. Not sure how much is outstanding or in what counties.

I still see on the NYT website that Pitkin county still has 20% of the vote left to count, it is fairly populated, and in favor of the Dem. Pueblo has 90% of the vote in and it is also leaning Dem, just not as much as Pitkin.

 

[MrSquished]

The GQP shitting on all young voters is great, if the Dems just use some of these clips in ads, it could certainly backfire big time on the shitty GQP - I mean I'd get motivated if the GQP was calling my entire generation dumb assholes who are the main problem in the count


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[Muse]

The best option would be for DeSantis to run and he and Trump have a civil war. It could fracture the GQP terrorist party more than enough to make 2024 a blowout for the Dems.

They showed Biden last night at the lectern asked about his running. Said they've been planning it but won't announce for a while. Was asked about the GOP and he said he'd have "fun" watching Trump and DeSantis going after each other.

It could fracture the GQP terrorist party more than enough to make 2024 a blowout for the Dems.

We need that. Maybe we can get the country back on track.

 

[vi edit]

Ted was right. Democrats actually governed and got shit done. Not waged stupid fucking culture wars on marginalized transgender kids.

 

[PlanetJosh]

This may have been brought up already but both bodies of the AZ state legislature are controlled by Republicans by a few votes. So is there a danger they may overturn the senator election results if the Dem wins? Or maybe the legislature won't be able to get enough Republicans on board to scrap the election results if they have the cojones to even consider a vote on it?

 

[Muse]

He has a thing for historical feats, likes to present himself as a record breaker or trend setter whenever possible.

Which is why the lack of a red wave must be so infuriating to him here, in addition to affecting his own prospects. Someone probably explained to him that the presidents party gaining seats during midterms almost never happens. As I understand it, in our previous 60 mid-term elections, it's only happened twice before. Once over the Great Depression, and once for 9/11 fever. Now Trump gets to be the reason for #3. Haha!

"Don't blame yourself if you can find someone else." [Steppenwolf song]

 

[Muse]

Seems to me that constantly telling your base that their vote might not count because it won't get counted or that the other guys are adding fraudulent votes isn't the best way to enthuse your people on voting. That constant drip drip of propaganda saying that the voting system doesn't wok must have an effect on turn out?

Yeah, why bother voting, let's go bowling.

 

[Muse]

We said the same thing in the aftermath of January 6th, that the GOP was finally done with him.

Let's give it a few weeks. I am willing to bet they continue to cling to him.

If the GOP does finally distance themselves from him, I wonder if the backlash from their base would be to sit out the 2024 elections en masse/protest?

Could be a very strong 2024 for Democrats. If Biden runs, gotta hope their VP candidate is a very strong potential president.

 

[ondma]

Woohoo, possibly 52?

That would be great. If that happens, then the Dems would still have 50 votes, even without Manchin and Sinema. Really too early to be talking about this though. Worst case, it could still end up as 49.

 

[Pens1566]

Lulz

https://twitter.com/x/status/1590570039446364160

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Unless you're regularly mingling in Republican-land I think a good deal of people on the left don't actually understand the dynamic Trump plays with the Republican party. Everybody knows Trump is an asshole. Almost all of his voters are completely aware of this. I would be willing to bet that more than half of the people who vote for Trump don't actually even like him on a personal level. People who vote for Trump do so as a shield against the things they do not like on the left. That's it. Republicans feel threatened by the left and Trump is the savior and it doesn't matter what he does or how he does it so long as he shields them in the end. He can shoot someone in the middle of the street or grab you by the pussy, it doesn't matter, he's still going to get votes because liberals are that much worse. There's no mystery nor secret here, it's honestly that simple. Humans love making things complicated.

As for DeSantis / Trump, if Trump runs they're going to obviously vote for Trump. But Republicans at this point would like to break free of Trump's baggage and DeSantis is a clean slate and by doing shit like shipping immigrants to Martha's Vineyard, to taking on Disney, declaring war against 'wokeism,' so forth and so on, Republicans love this shit. If Trump and DeSantis go head to head DeSantis will win. I personally know of exactly zero Republicans that want Trump over DeSantis, even prior to the win in Florida they already wanted DeSantis. I'm even including Trump supporters I know who have attended Trump rallies.

Here's a fun experiment. If you know a Republican ask if they want Trump or DeSantis. The answer isn't going to be Trump. If DeSantis wins the R primary and runs for the presidency then Democrats might actually see that supposed red wave that was alleged to occur the other day.

I think you’re wrong. Looking at a few right wing extreme forms today I was shocked at how many have kicked Trump to the curb and want him to shut up and sit down. Most of them feel DeSantis has what Trump needs. And he delivered huge in Florida. The majority of what were die hard Trumpers seem to have moved on.

 

[fskimospy]

I think you’re wrong. Looking at a few right wing extreme forms today I was shocked at how many have kicked Trump to the curb and want him to shut auto and sit down. More than feel DeSantis has what Trump needs. And he delivered huge in Florida. the majority of what we’re die hard Trumpers seem to have moved on.

It will be interesting. Conservative media is currently trying to shuffle Trump off stage but we'll see if it works. The knives are out for Trump right now though, will be interesting to see if he can survive.

 

[Pens1566]

One thing that Desantis doesn't have that Trump does (or has in the past) is that he's not handled adverse questioning well. And that will absolutely come out in any run he makes at POTUS. You can't stay in your bubble with FL state troopers keeping people out that you don't want in. It showed in his debate, and he flubbed it. Badly.

 

[Zor Prime]

I think you’re wrong. Looking at a few right wing extreme forms today I was shocked at how many have kicked Trump to the curb and want him to shut up and sit down. Most of them feel DeSantis has what Trump needs. And he delivered huge in Florida. The majority of what were die hard Trumpers seem to have moved on.

That's ... what I said. Except the forum thing, I don't know about that stuff.