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2022 US midterms election watch party/thread

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Imagine if GOP didn't push the character build sliders all the way to max for "Evil", "Stupid" and "Unlikable".

If they had just taken a slightly more reasonable pass with non looney candidates this would be a very different election.

Time to see how much self reflection is in the party.
 
Its going to be a few days before we get results here in AZ. Many of the races are very close and its being reported there are about 600k ballots yet to be counted. Certainly wasnt a red wave thats for sure.
 
Fenixgoon said:
But let's say you're an assembly line worker. You get laid off. Can you easily find a job across the country? Is the company going to pay for your expenses to interview in person out there? Can you afford to stay out of work while you look for a new job, or do you need to take any job ASAP to keep a roof overhead, lights on, and food on the table?
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I mean, I'm just a sysad but in the two times I've moved for work, I got a job before moving. I guess I can see blind moving without a job if it's a two-income household (and you can fend off debt with one earner) but who the hell moves blind if you're the HoH?
 
blackangst1 said:
Its going to be a few days before we get results here in AZ. Many of the races are very close and its being reported there are about 600k ballots yet to be counted. Certainly wasnt a red wave thats for sure.
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Really looks like Finchem is going down hard though, as he should.
 
vi edit said:
Imagine if GOP didn't push the character build sliders all the way to max for "Evil", "Stupid" and "Unlikable".

If they had just taken a slightly more reasonable pass with non looney candidates this would be a very different election.

Time to see how much self reflection is in the party.
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Just watching some reaction from that side I think some people are focusing maybe too much on Trump himself as the problem instead of Trumpism being what voters actually seem to be recoiling from.
 
As much as it pains me to say this... McConnell nailed it. GOP just had bad candidates. PA Gov, AZ Gov, Masters, and so on. Election denying actually mattered and not in the way they wanted. Not to say some of those didn't slip through the cracks and get elected. But at state level races it was a pretty sounding rebuke.
 
vi edit said:
Election denying actually mattered and not in the way they wanted. Not to say some of those didn't slip through the cracks and get elected. But at state level races it was a pretty sounding rebuke.
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Seems to me that constantly telling your base that their vote might not count because it won't get counted or that the other guys are adding fraudulent votes isn't the best way to enthuse your people on voting. That constant drip drip of propaganda saying that the voting system doesn't wok must have an effect on turn out?
 
MrSquished said:
The best option would be for DeSantis to run and he and Trump have a civil war. It could fracture the GQP terrorist party more than enough to make 2024 a blowout for the Dems.
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What's the odds on Trumpy standing as an independent just to fuck with DeSantis if Desantis gets the nomination?
Trump is just the worst loser and doesn't really give a shit about the GOP.
 
WelshBloke said:
What's the odds on Trumpy standing as an independent just to fuck with DeSantis if Desantis gets the nomination?
Trump is just the worst loser and doesn't really give a shit about the GOP.
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His ego would be all for such a scenario, but he will probably be talked out of it by those closest to him for splitting the repubs and ending up a villain by even his own supporters for handing Dems a clean victory in next election.
 
Fenixgoon said:
Some jobs offers lots more mobility than others.

I've moved across the country as an engineer and generally not had issue finding work. My particular discipline is applicable to a variety of fields.

But let's say you're an assembly line worker. You get laid off. Can you easily find a job across the country? Is the company going to pay for your expenses to interview in person out there? Can you afford to stay out of work while you look for a new job, or do you need to take any job ASAP to keep a roof overhead, lights on, and food on the table?
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Why are you mixing in mobility with availability?

This has always been true for blue collar jobs, though, it is absolutely not a reflection on the current economic situation. But I'm going to guess there is more blue collar mobility now than there was 5 years ago. And I see posting for manufacturing jobs all over the place right now, BLS backs this up as well. Manufacturing is one of the faster growing job categories.
 
MrSquished said:
The best option would be for DeSantis to run and he and Trump have a civil war. It could fracture the GQP terrorist party more than enough to make 2024 a blowout for the Dems.
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I don't think DeSantis can beat Trump in a primary. He's not charismatic. In fact he seems to be the opposite of the kind of persona (alpha male) Trump's supporters like Trump for. I didn't understand his support in FL and watching parts of his debate reinforced that.

Edit: He comes off as somewhat uptight and weird. Easy fodder for a school yard bully like Trump.
 
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Its interesting how almost all cost of living issues come back to high housing costs. That's something we can actually do things about. Don't get mad at federal level politicians that the rent is high, get mad at the local issues keeping housing production low.
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Yup. Republicans cry about inflation and high housing cost. Meanwhile my republican suburb just voted against a zoning change to allow an apartment complex, 70% to 30%. Absolutely perfect location for apartments, right next to highway in a spot that really needs infill. Schools there are losing population and roads are oversized. Still, voted down.
 
Zorba said:
Yup. Republicans cry about inflation and high housing cost. Meanwhile my republican suburb just voted against a zoning change to allow an apartment complex, 70% to 30%. Absolutely perfect location for apartments, right next to highway in a spot that really needs infill. Schools there are losing population and roads are oversized. Still, voted down.
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Yeah it's crazy. People are so contradictory and can never see their own hypocrisy. To be fair this NIMBY'sm for housing is also very common among the left.
 
emperus said:
I don't think DeSantis can beat Trump in a primary. He's not charismatic. In fact he seems to be the opposite of the kind of persona (alpha male) Trump's supporters like Trump for. I didn't understand his support FL and watching parts of his debate reinforced that.
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It looks (from an admittedly distant viewpoint) that a lot of the GOP machinery is done with Trump. I think even they are seeing how toxic he I to the long term existence of their party.
Without the party support does he stand much chance?
 
MrSquished said:
Yeah it's crazy. People are so contradictory and can never see their own hypocrisy. To be fair this NIMBY'sm for housing is also very common among the left.
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Old people will do anything to prop up existing property prices. It's something that makes me ashamed of a lot of my generation.
 
Zorba said:
Why are you mixing in mobility with availability?

This has always been true for blue collar jobs, though, it is absolutely not a reflection on the current economic situation. But I'm going to guess there is more blue collar mobility now than there was 5 years ago. And I see posting for manufacturing jobs all over the place right now, BLS backs this up as well. Manufacturing is one of the faster growing job categories.
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It's also a giant fucking talking point that dems refuse to try and capitalize on. Why should your healthcare be tethered to your job? Why should you be held hostage to health insurance and bullshit COBRA plans if you want to change employers and have a gap in coverage? We *can* do better than this.

They should be screaming from the rooftops that that factory owner shouldn't hold your access card to healthcare.
 
WelshBloke said:
It looks (from an admittedly distant viewpoint) that a lot of the GOP machinery is done with Trump. I think even they are seeing how toxic he I to the long term existence of their party.
Without the party support does he stand much chance?
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Nope, and without trumpers GOP doesn't stand much of a chance.
 
WelshBloke said:
It looks (from an admittedly distant viewpoint) that a lot of the GOP machinery is done with Trump. I think even they are seeing how toxic he I to the long term existence of their party.
Without the party support does he stand much chance?
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I'll believe it when I see it frankly. We've been here before. Even if some of the party does manage a public breakup with him he's not going to sit quietly and just take it.
 
WelshBloke said:
It looks (from an admittedly distant viewpoint) that a lot of the GOP machinery is done with Trump. I think even they are seeing how toxic he I to the long term existence of their party.
Without the party support does he stand much chance?
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We said the same thing in the aftermath of January 6th, that the GOP was finally done with him.

Let's give it a few weeks. I am willing to bet they continue to cling to him.

If the GOP does finally distance themselves from him, I wonder if the backlash from their base would be to sit out the 2024 elections en masse/protest?
 
WelshBloke said:
It looks (from an admittedly distant viewpoint) that a lot of the GOP machinery is done with Trump. I think even they are seeing how toxic he I to the long term existence of their party.
Without the party support does he stand much chance?
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I think he does. His core supporters don't trust the party. Look at Cheney, Bush, McCain etc. etc. And the Republican party mostly consists of grifters and will be scared of losing their grift(the rank and file who line their pockets).
 
Trump is a literal god to many of these people. I don’t know if that will be reversible. And I bet they will worship him even more when he’s worm food.
 
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