2022 US midterms election watch party/thread

[eelw]

Yup they’ll kiss orange monkey butt shortly again. And DeSantis won’t be able to beat him.

 

[Muse]

Re: another Georgia runoff...will Trump tell Republicans to stay home because it's rigged, to boycott, etc?

I've always secretly wondered if Trump was a Democratic psyop agent sent from the future to sabotage the GOP.

It's crossed my mind a few times.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

"it's the economy, stupid"

For all the wedge issues and hare brained candidates the pubs ran, the one thing that always stuck out like a sore thumb was for all the hammering on inflation they never really offered any reasons or plans on what they would do different or better.

Honestly, IMO, if they had zeroed in on the economy and lied about their solutions this would have been the bloodbath predicted. They could have even kept the social regressivism in and people would have voted for the guy that would help keep a roof overhead.

Instead they lead with the social regressivism and offered nothing on the economy.

People are hailing Desantis as some sort of messiah for the Republican party (funny how one of those comes around every few years) but even his victory speech was all culture warrior bullshit that might fly in Flordah but as shown won't make it far on the national stage.

 

[evident]

Pennsylvania Elections - County Results (pa.gov)
look at PA house 142. Democratic candidate in my state house district is up by TWO VOTES. T W O. i think there are still provisional ballots that need to be counted.

 

[ondma]

I think the literate people of the country understand that "inflation" is mostly just corporate greed trying to reclaim the profits taht they lost during the pandemic, them somehow thinking they only they don't deserve to suffer, or merely chip in like the rest of us.

Most people who can read understand what is going on. The employment numbers pretty much contradict the common complaints that the economy is bad. It isn't bad. Assholes are running amok, and most people know that GOP has never had any solutions for that. In fact, most literate people know that the GOP only seeks to create these very problems.

Yes, there are plenty of jobs. Unfortunately, a lot of those jobs do not provide a sufficient salary to live on. Rent where I live is about 1k per month for even a basic 1 bedroom apartment. Even though there are a plethora of jobs paying around 15 bucks per hour, that simply is not enough to live on unless you share expenses with someone. I am not saying the GOP has any answers, but simply trying to show why low unemployment doesnt make people feel better about the economy.

 

[theeedude]

In these super tight races, we really need to thank Republicans for being anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers.

 

[nickqt]

In these super tight races, we really need to thank Republicans for being anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers.

You're not wrong.

 

[KMFJD]

In these super tight races, we really need to thank Republicans for being anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers.

Just came here to post some numbers i saw on this....specifically for Bobo the Clowns race

https://twitter.com/x/status/1590379559601393670

https://twitter.com/x/status/1590526836416851968

 

[Fanatical Meat]

BTW if Republicans do take the House it doesn't matter if it's by a margin of 1 or 10. They have the gavel which essentially means they run the committee's and more importantly means they'll have subpoena power.

They are going to wreak havoc.

There will be sham investigations into all their cartoon villains on the Dem side of the house and no doubt Biden will be impeached at some point.

Jim Jordan is going to have a prominent roll in all this and I'm almost certain we'll see a shutdown of the US government within the first 6 to 9 months so they can try and force their agenda through.

Frankly, I hope they make a circus of the House and Biden doesn't negotiate with these terrorists.

These midterms have shown that Americans even though aren’t happy, they are not interested in the nonsense that MAGA preaches.

Something tells me this red trickle may have smartened them up but I hope not as its in their nature to try and destroy the American middle class.

I hope they inflict as much pain as possible so its repaid at the ballot box in 2024.

Fuck it just do what Republicans have done for the last few year. Don’t show up to the requests to appear.

 

[Bitek]

"it's the economy, stupid"

For all the wedge issues and hare brained candidates the pubs ran, the one thing that always stuck out like a sore thumb was for all the hammering on inflation they never really offered any reasons or plans on what they would do different or better.

Honestly, IMO, if they had zeroed in on the economy and lied about their solutions this would have been the bloodbath predicted. They could have even kept the social regressivism in and people would have voted for the guy that would help keep a roof overhead.

Instead they lead with the social regressivism and offered nothing on the economy.

People are hailing Desantis as some sort of messiah for the Republican party (funny how one of those comes around every few years) but even his victory speech was all culture warrior bullshit that might fly in Flordah but as shown won't make it far on the national stage.

I agree they are burning themselves down with crazy.

There is no policy to talk about behind the edifice of madness because crazy and resentment is all they have.

Fight inflation? How?
Reduce housing costs? How?
Reduce gas prices? How?
Raise incomes? How? Let me guess tho, tax cuts for Elon Musk.

Look at the posters even here.
1. Blame Biden. 2. Vote R. 3.... ???
??? =Impeach Biden sometimes, or shut down govt, then no other ideas

None of which do anything but partisan bickering.

I criticized Hillary in 2016 for losing bc of no simple messages, too many complex 10pt plans.

2022 Rs have 0 plans

 

[pmv]

Kind of disappointingly inconclusive/boring results, really. Offers neither the potential drama and prospect of crisis that would result from a serious resurgence of the crazy party (with the exciting possibility of future attempted coups), nor the satisfaction of seeing the start of the well-deserved destruction of that party.

Instead it looks like just enough of a "red ripple" to maybe ensure Democrats will continue to struggle to get much done, and that there will be lots of boring procedural wrangling to look forward to. The US system just seems designed to produce stasis and paralysis.

Am I wrong? It just all looks like a bit of a non-event to me.

 

[dank69]

The important thing about Georgia going to a runoff is that it gives Garland an excuse to delay the indictment of Trump even further.

 

[TheVrolok]

MSN

1st Republican since 1993 elected as a non-voting delegate from Guam.


The red wave begins...........

So, uh, how's the wave? Probably still riding it?

 

[Exterous]

Kind of disappointingly inconclusive/boring results, really. Offers neither the potential drama and prospect of crisis that would result from a serious resurgence of the crazy party (with the exciting possibility of future attempted coups), nor the satisfaction of seeing the start of the well-deserved destruction of that party.

Instead it looks like just enough of a "red ripple" to maybe ensure Democrats will continue to struggle to get much done, and that there will be lots of boring procedural wrangling to look forward to. The US system just seems designed to produce stasis and paralysis.

Am I wrong? It just all looks like a bit of a non-event to me.

Historically the Presidential incumbent's party loses a lot of seats during elections that happen in the middle of their term. It happened to both Obama and Trump. Eeking out only slight wins Congressionally and some full on face planting locally (e.g. Michigan which is completely democratic now for the first time in 38 years. Penn should have been winnable for Republicans but Oz was an incredibly dumb choice) is actually noteworthy for their ahistorical lack of success. Now the news stories will be full on spin mode about it but this was a big deal because it wasn't the big win it should have been for the Rs

 

[dank69]

I agree they are burning themselves down with crazy.

There is no policy to talk about behind the edifice of madness because crazy and resentment is all they have.

Fight inflation? How?
Reduce housing costs? How?
Reduce gas prices? How?
Raise incomes? How? Let me guess tho, tax cuts for Elon Musk.

Look at the posters even here.
1. Blame Biden. 2. Vote R. 3.... ???
??? =Impeach Biden sometimes, or shut down govt, then no other ideas

None of which do anything but partisan bickering.

I criticized Hillary in 2016 for losing bc of no simple messages, too many complex 10pt plans.

2022 Rs have 0 plans

Rs have had zero plans (other than unpaid-for tax cuts) for DECADES.

 

[Pens1566]

In these super tight races, we really need to thank Republicans for being anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers.

I'm waiting for someone to do a district level analysis of covid deaths vs election results. I'm guessing there's a pretty obvious correlation.

 

[sdifox]

I'm waiting for someone to do a district level analysis of covid deaths vs election results. I'm guessing there's a pretty obvious correlation.

but dead people can vote no?

 

[HomerJS]

The young Gen Z has issues that they care about deeply..

abortion rights (they're the ones getting pregnant)
climate change (they're the ones having to move)
gun control (they're the ones getting shot en masse)
marriage equality (they and their friends are the ones who want to marry)
college loan forgiveness (they're the ones stuck with the loans)
child tax credits (they're the ones having majority of kids)
and democracy (actually having a say in things)

Do the Trump tax cuts effect them?
Does critical race theory?
Or does someone being trans or gay?

Maybe because they know it doesn't exist in the public schools despite Republican lies

 

[Fenixgoon]

Maybe because they know it doesn't exist in the public schools despite Republican lies

Unfortunately their parents think it does. But seriously good on GenZ for getting out and voting.

 

[eelw]

but dead people can vote no?

Here’s hoping the family members who did try this get busted and banned from voting. So double R vote loss.

 

[HomerJS]

"it's the economy, stupid"

For all the wedge issues and hare brained candidates the pubs ran, the one thing that always stuck out like a sore thumb was for all the hammering on inflation they never really offered any reasons or plans on what they would do different or better.

Honestly, IMO, if they had zeroed in on the economy and lied about their solutions this would have been the bloodbath predicted. They could have even kept the social regressivism in and people would have voted for the guy that would help keep a roof overhead.

Instead they lead with the social regressivism and offered nothing on the economy.

People are hailing Desantis as some sort of messiah for the Republican party (funny how one of those comes around every few years) but even his victory speech was all culture warrior bullshit that might fly in Flordah but as shown won't make it far on the national stage.

People hailing DeSantis as some kind of God, meanwhile Gretchen Whitmer not only won her re-election as Gov of Michigan in a state that tried to kidnap her, but Democrats took control of the state house.

Despite what the right wing media says, Whitmer is a far bigger story.

 

[gothuevos]

I agree they are burning themselves down with crazy.

There is no policy to talk about behind the edifice of madness because crazy and resentment is all they have.

Fight inflation? How?
Reduce housing costs? How?
Reduce gas prices? How?
Raise incomes? How? Let me guess tho, tax cuts for Elon Musk.

Look at the posters even here.
1. Blame Biden. 2. Vote R. 3.... ???
??? =Impeach Biden sometimes, or shut down govt, then no other ideas

None of which do anything but partisan bickering.

I criticized Hillary in 2016 for losing bc of no simple messages, too many complex 10pt plans.

2022 Rs have 0 plans

That's because they aren't conservatives.

They're reactionaries.

That's it. That's the tweet.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Historically the Presidential incumbent's party loses a lot of seats during elections that happen in the middle of their term. It happened to both Obama and Trump. Eeking out only slight wins Congressionally and some full on face planting locally (e.g. Michigan which is completely democratic now for the first time in 38 years. Penn should have been winnable for Republicans but Oz was an incredibly dumb choice) is actually noteworthy for their ahistorical lack of success. Now the news stories will be full on spin mode about it but this was a big deal because it wasn't the big win it should have been for the Rs

I'm seeing this situation similarly to Biden's 2020 win. Lots of hemming and hawing over how close the race was, then people forget that it's the biggest loss for an incumbent president since Hoover.

 

[zinfamous]

Yes, there are plenty of jobs. Unfortunately, a lot of those jobs do not provide a sufficient salary to live on. Rent where I live is about 1k per month for even a basic 1 bedroom apartment. Even though there are a plethora of jobs paying around 15 bucks per hour, that simply is not enough to live on unless you share expenses with someone. I am not saying the GOP has any answers, but simply trying to show why low unemployment doesnt make people feel better about the economy.

You're absolutely right, and this is one of those issues where both parties' leadership is actively ignoring this glaring point: democrats point to "there's plenty of jobs, record low employment out there!" Republicans point to inflation and conveniently ignore the unemployment numbers because it doesn't favor them, as usual.

Few in the upper tiers of the parties are loud enough to point out that no one really wants to work at the criminally low wages that are being offered for these jobs, from companies that are raking in criminally-high profits at the same time.

It's completely insane that we don't have pricing checks on this kind of misery-profiteering that we just let glorious corporate America run away with because "Capitalism must win!"

I think 98% of voters actually agree that Corporations should at the very least share in the "suffering" that everyone else is sharing when the world economy contracts like it is. Absolutely no one really thinks that the current inflation numbers are due to "runaway government spending!"

Such an argument grabs rational and sober analysis of data by the collar, drags it out to the woodshed and beats it into an inch of life, then wraps the reality at the ankles with chains and cement and tosses it into a shallow, slag-laden used-to-be-river in a centuries-long drought-ridden shithole of an abandoned industrial town.

 

[pmv]

I get that there's a case to be made that this is a pretty bad result for the Republicans, as historically parties with the Presidency usually suffer mid-term, plus there's a massive inflation problem, so one would expect a competent opposition to make significant advances.

But what I don't know is whether, in those past historical cases, the starting point for mid-term elections was such a deadlock situation in both houses. Though the Republicans seem to have only made tiny gains - which reflects badly on them, and on Trump, at this point - the objective situation remains a legislature split down the middle. Could be a lot worse, but it's still not great, it seems to me. I don't know if in those past cases of opposition parties making gains, what the starting point was, i.e. maybe in some of those they were way behind to start with?