2022 US midterms election watch party/thread

[fskimospy]

I get that there's a case to be made that this is a pretty bad result for the Republicans, as historically parties with the Presidency usually suffer mid-term, plus there's a massive inflation problem, so one would expect a competent opposition to make significant advances.

But what I don't know is whether, in those past historical cases, the starting point for mid-term elections was such a deadlock situation in both houses. Though the Republicans seem to have only made tiny gains - which reflects badly on them, and on Trump, at this point - the objective situation remains a legislature split down the middle. Could be a lot worse, but it's still not great, it seems to me. I don't know if in those past cases of opposition parties making gains, what the starting point was, i.e. maybe in some of those they were way behind to start with?

It’s a mixture of a lot of factors I imagine but republicans clearly badly underperformed.

As far as the rest all I can say is the US system is poorly designed and has always depended on ideologically diffuse parties to function. Now that we don’t have those anymore we end up with gridlock most of the time.

 

[HomerJS]

I get that there's a case to be made that this is a pretty bad result for the Republicans, as historically parties with the Presidency usually suffer mid-term, plus there's a massive inflation problem, so one would expect a competent opposition to make significant advances.

But what I don't know is whether, in those past historical cases, the starting point for mid-term elections was such a deadlock situation in both houses. Though the Republicans seem to have only made tiny gains - which reflects badly on them, and on Trump, at this point - the objective situation remains a legislature split down the middle. Could be a lot worse, but it's still not great, it seems to me. I don't know if in those past cases of opposition parties making gains, what the starting point was, i.e. maybe in some of those they were way behind to start with?

Remove the recent gerrymandering and Dems would have gained

 

[Roger Wilco]

Cortez Masto closing in.

 

[Muse]

2022 Rs have 0 plans

What is more the Republican Party did not have a platform committee and therefore no platform whatsoever at the 2020 convention. They were all, let's get on Trump's coattails and hope he drags us to the promised land. They got what they deserved. Then they stay on Trump's coattails when he refuses to believe he could have lost that election, because... because what? It doesn't jibe with his self image. And the R's stay on those coattails and how many R House winners Tuesday are still on them? Most! They won't dump Trump (and stop denying the 2020 election results) until they can't stand the smell anymore.

 

[fskimospy]

Cortez Masto closing in.

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Seems like the most likely scenario now is (barely) that Democrats end up with 50 senate seats before Georgia, hopefully 51 after that.

It looks increasingly likely that gerrymandering is the only thing that will save Republicans from another Democratic trifecta.

 

[Muse]

That's because they aren't conservatives.

They're reactionaries.

That's it. That's the tweet.

In fact, MAGA is just that. Reactionary!

 

[eelw]

Cortez Masto closing in.

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Hope those 10,302 aren’t the difference

 

[Muse]

Current situation with respect to the midterms via lead article at the New York Times.

This link should work for 14 days, i.e. until November 24, 2022:

Midterm Elections 2022: Oregon Elects Tina Kotek

Ms. Kotek and Maura Healey, elected in Massachusetts, will be the nation’s first openly lesbian governors. Three Senate races remain uncalled, in Arizona, Nevada and Georgia, which is headed for a runoff next month.

www.nytimes.com

 

[HomerJS]

I'll say it first, I fully endorse Trump as the 2024 Republican nominee for President

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I'll say it first, I fully endorse Trump as the 2024 Republican nominee for President

Me too, shit maybe I’ll register to be Republican so I can primary him.

 

[IronWing]

Arizona's ballot proposition to create permanent minority rule wrt taxes is narrowly passing right now. Hopefully it will lose when all the ballots are counted.

 

[K1052]

Wasserman thinks Kelly and CCM both make it. I agree.

GOP enthusiasm for the GA runoff for Walker is probably going to be relatively low if it's not the 50th seat.

 

[emperus]

Remove the recent gerrymandering and Dems would have gained

Was just going to post this and thought I'd read ahead. Noone is talking about this. Without those gerrymandered seats esp. in Florida, the Republicans probably would have lost seats.

 

[kage69]

All these reports of Trump being apoplectic and blaming everyone but himself, love it.

The loser loses again, while DeSantis won his state (finger on the scale as usual though) and is rubbing it in Trump's face.

Trump is a complete moron, just no idea what he is talking about or what is happening around him, just clueless. But I'm pretty sure he has enough mental faculties left to understand that DeSantis intends to replace him as head of the GQP.

It'd be nice to see him run in 2024 and get absolutely demolished, hobbling the GQP for the next 20ish years in the process, but I'd still rather him be barred from running for any office, a la 14th. He's a criminal and a traitor let's remember.

 

[uallas5]

All these reports of Trump being apoplectic and blaming everyone but himself, love it.

The loser loses again, while DeSantis won his state (finger on the scale as usual though) and is rubbing it in Trump's face.

Trump is a complete moron, just no idea what he is talking about or what is happening around him, just clueless. But I'm pretty sure he has enough mental faculties left to understand that DeSantis intends to replace him as head of the GQP.

It'd be nice to see him run in 2024 and get absolutely demolished, hobbling the GQP for the next 20ish years in the process, but I'd still rather him be barred from running for any office, a la 14th. He's a traitor let's remember.

If you read the comments on these stories, there's always some trump fluffers who bring up that of the 187 candidates he endorsed, 179 won. What they don't bother to say is the fact that the majority of those were either running un-opposed or in safe R races. You could say it's like picking the top 1/2 of the American League teams for one year and congratulating yourself that a bunch of your picks made it to the playoffs the next year. Except that what Trump did was even easier than that.

 

[Zorba]

Yes, there are plenty of jobs. Unfortunately, a lot of those jobs do not provide a sufficient salary to live on. Rent where I live is about 1k per month for even a basic 1 bedroom apartment. Even though there are a plethora of jobs paying around 15 bucks per hour, that simply is not enough to live on unless you share expenses with someone. I am not saying the GOP has any answers, but simply trying to show why low unemployment doesnt make people feel better about the economy.

Funny, 3 years ago having a plethora of $15/hr job available would've been a massive achievement. And, of course, there are a lot more jobs than that. My company literally can not hire engineers with tons of openings. Takes 3 to 4 offers to get a new engineer to accept.

My BIL chemist was recently laid off, he got multiple offers within a couple weeks and didn't even directly apply to a single job. Companies started cold calling him after they found out his company had done layoffs.

Jobs, good jobs, are available.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Funny, 3 years ago having a plethora of $15/hr job available would've been a massive achievement. And, of course, there are a lot more jobs than that. My company literally can not hire engineers with tons of openings. Takes 3 to 4 offers to get a new engineer to accept.

My BIL chemist was recently laid off, he got multiple offers within a couple weeks and didn't even directly apply to a single job. Companies started cold calling him after they found out his company had done layoffs.

Jobs, good jobs, are available.

Some jobs offers lots more mobility than others.

I've moved across the country as an engineer and generally not had issue finding work. My particular discipline is applicable to a variety of fields.

But let's say you're an assembly line worker. You get laid off. Can you easily find a job across the country? Is the company going to pay for your expenses to interview in person out there? Can you afford to stay out of work while you look for a new job, or do you need to take any job ASAP to keep a roof overhead, lights on, and food on the table?

 

[MrSquished]

All these reports of Trump being apoplectic and blaming everyone but himself, love it.

The loser loses again, while DeSantis won his state (finger on the scale as usual though) and is rubbing it in Trump's face.

Trump is a complete moron, just no idea what he is talking about or what is happening around him, just clueless. But I'm pretty sure he has enough mental faculties left to understand that DeSantis intends to replace him as head of the GQP.

It'd be nice to see him run in 2024 and get absolutely demolished, hobbling the GQP for the next 20ish years in the process, but I'd still rather him be barred from running for any office, a la 14th. He's a criminal and a traitor let's remember.

The best option would be for DeSantis to run and he and Trump have a civil war. It could fracture the GQP terrorist party more than enough to make 2024 a blowout for the Dems.

 

[cytg111]

So, everyone over 40 cried about the economy and inflation while young people smacked the red wave down? That about it? Wonder if youngster will keep voting though. If they do though and get inflation behind us 2024 should be a breeze.

 

[K1052]

Funny, 3 years ago having a plethora of $15/hr job available would've been a massive achievement. And, of course, there are a lot more jobs than that. My company literally can not hire engineers with tons of openings. Takes 3 to 4 offers to get a new engineer to accept.

My BIL chemist was recently laid off, he got multiple offers within a couple weeks and didn't even directly apply to a single job. Companies started cold calling him after they found out his company had done layoffs.

Jobs, good jobs, are available.

Its interesting how almost all cost of living issues come back to high housing costs. That's something we can actually do things about. Don't get mad at federal level politicians that the rent is high, get mad at the local issues keeping housing production low.

 

[uallas5]

With all the attention being given to the runoff in GA, no one's talking about the other senate runoff, Alaska. It's R vs R but pretty interesting because, I believe, it's the only senate race where ranked choice voting was used. Also, it will be interesting to see if the moderate Murkowski can prevail over the Trump backed, election denying, Tshibaka. I sure hope she does. Be nice for Trump to lose yet another one.

Alaska Senate race headed to ranked-choice runoff (msn.com)

 

[vi edit]

Yeah, in all other forums I'm in, I've thanked GenZ for getting things done. As a white male in GenX, my cohort is the literal worst.

Good luck voter suppressing white 20 somethings if they decide to show up in volume.

 

[K1052]

Can somebody in NY get Eric Adams to shut the fuck up please? I'll settle for nearly silent incompetence instead of loud politically harmful incompetence.

 

[Pens1566]

Wasserman thinks Kelly and CCM both make it. I agree.

GOP enthusiasm for the GA runoff for Walker is probably going to be relatively low if it's not the 50th seat.

Yep. Kelly shouldn't be that close. The Pima #s would add to his lead.

CCM will squeak by with the Clark ballots pushing her over. Guessing about 3-5k in the end.

 

[kage69]

If you read the comments on these stories, there's always some trump fluffers who bring up that of the 187 candidates he endorsed, 179 won. What they don't bother to say is the fact that the majority of those were either running un-opposed or in safe R races. You could say it's like picking the top 1/2 of the American League teams for one year and congratulating yourself that a bunch of your picks made it to the playoffs the next year. Except that what Trump did was even easier than that.

He has a thing for historical feats, likes to present himself as a record breaker or trend setter whenever possible.

Which is why the lack of a red wave must be so infuriating to him here, in addition to affecting his own prospects. Someone probably explained to him that the presidents party gaining seats during midterms almost never happens. As I understand it, in our previous 60 mid-term elections, it's only happened twice before. Once over the Great Depression, and once for 9/11 fever. Now Trump gets to be the reason for #3. Haha!