2020-2021 Coup Watch Thread

[KMFJD]

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[brycejones]

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Doesn't mention being in favor of hand grenades. Taj is disappoint.

 

[nickqt]

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Yeah, but he's against graffiti on statutes of traitors to this country, so its all good.

 

[Dave_5k]

Trump targets vote certification in late bid to block Biden

WASHINGTON (AP) — Getting nowhere in the courts, President Donald Trump's scattershot effort to overturn President-elect Joe Biden’s victory is shifting toward obscure election boards that certify the vote as Trump and his allies seek to upend the electoral process, sow chaos and perpetuate unsubsta

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Although Detroit was certified at the county level, the coup watch is still needed... with the Michigan state board also set up with 2 democrats and 2 republicans. While not a traditional "coup", this is still an ongoing effort to delegitimize and overthrow democracy, utilizing social media as an able and willing accomplice.

In Michigan, the next step is the statewide Board of Canvassers, a board with the same 2/2 partisan makeup. It will meet on Monday. One of its Republican members has already expressed skepticism about voting results in Detroit.

At issue in Detroit: differences between the count of voters signed-in, and count of votes cast (discrepancy of count of less than 500 total, at most 1 or 2 per precinct). Unclear how many of these were undervotes (e.g. voter signed in, but then left without actually casting ballot) or overvotes (e.g. voter not properly recorded in sign-in list or ballot somehow recorded twice). But for Trump, that's apparently all he needed to claim rampant fraud and potentially convince GOP commissioners to throw an entire state election for him, that Biden won by 150,000 votes, if this is not watched like a hawk.

Trump was tweeting repeatedly today that he won Michigan. And Twitter just highlights it with a badge "this is disputed" as though this is somehow just yet another media "both-sides" issue. And this is just one of dozens of similar ongoing attempts by Trump's brainwashed minions - as he's now convinced 20-35% of the population depending on poll, including likely the majority of the GOP now, into believing that the election was fraudulent and that he (Trump) actually won.

 

[cytg111]

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Communist revolution? Wtf?
This is where dems need to be on point lincoln project style and label this shit fascist loud and clear... paint the radical right RADICAL.
Where the fuck is the lefts idea of the lincoln project anyway? nowhere?

 

[theeedude]

The US is dying. Every institution from SCOTUS down to county canvasser is corrupted with Republican politics and malfunctioning. The Constitution is no match for it, since the courts are sick with it too. Make no mistake, this is what collapse of an empire looks like, when the institutions are broken and can't be fixed within the system.

 

[fskimospy]

The US is dying. Every institution from SCOTUS down to county canvasser is corrupted with Republican politics and malfunctioning. The Constitution is no match for it, since the courts are sick with it too. Make no mistake, this is what collapse of an empire looks like, when the institutions are broken and can't be fixed within the system.

I generally agree. I think Biden will provide a temporary reprieve but the odds of continuing down this path are extremely high.

The main issue is that the Republican Party values getting its way more than it values our system of government. This has been true for a long time but what Trump really did is expose how weak our system has become. It turns out if you rampantly break the law, violate your oath of office and abuse your powers the penalty for this is...nothing. This was the problem that I mentioned during impeachment - that other people would notice this if Trump wasn’t removed.

Maybe the saddest part about this is that our system was irreparably harmed not in the service of some grand cause, but just to protect a sad, venal steak salesman’s ability to try and cheat the election system.

 

[ewdotson]

Yeah, but man, they got to ram through a bunch of wildly unqualified judges. And when you think about it, isn't that what *really* matters?

 

[gothuevos]

I generally agree. I think Biden will provide a temporary reprieve but the odds of continuing down this path are extremely high.

The main issue is that the Republican Party values getting its way more than it values our system of government. This has been true for a long time but what Trump really did is expose how weak our system has become. It turns out if you rampantly break the law, violate your oath of office and abuse your powers the penalty for this is...nothing. This was the problem that I mentioned during impeachment - that other people would notice this if Trump wasn’t removed.

Maybe the saddest part about this is that our system was irreparably harmed not in the service of some grand cause, but just to protect a sad, venal steak salesman’s ability to try and cheat the election system.

This is what I've been trying to tell everyone. The Constitution is just a piece of paper, it doesn't give us magical powers or a force field against tyranny. It's up to us to uphold the laws. So when our own government simply ignores these guardrails, what did people expect would happen?

We're well on our way to collapse already. Biden is just the break at the 2 minute warning. Heck, I still wouldn't be surprised if Trump is able to stay in office via SCOTUS shenanigans or somehow delaying vote certification/EC voting and having it punted to the house.

And I wholeheartedly agree with your last statement - it is an absolute shame that it all came crashing down not in some epic struggle, but rather in cult service to a guy like Trump. Simply wow. Of all the things we've endured in our history, good/bad/ugly, for it to end like this is nothing short of a tragedy or a comedy, I'm not sure which.

 

[gothuevos]

The US is dying. Every institution from SCOTUS down to county canvasser is corrupted with Republican politics and malfunctioning. The Constitution is no match for it, since the courts are sick with it too. Make no mistake, this is what collapse of an empire looks like, when the institutions are broken and can't be fixed within the system.

What I want to know before it all burns down....is who the heck is advising Trump to make all these moves? We know he certainly doesn't have that kind of strategy of knowledge of the weak links in our system. Who is shadow Presidenting in the background? Is this Stephen Miller and/or Bannon all along?

 

[theeedude]

What I want to know before it all burns down....is who the heck is advising Trump to make all these moves? We know he certainly doesn't have that kind of strategy of knowledge of the weak links in our system. Who is shadow Presidenting in the background? Is this Stephen Miller and/or Bannon all along?

The complicit SCOTUS has made GOP like a spoiled child once they gutted voting rights and greenlit partisan gerrymandering, and also their doctrine that legislatures have unchecked power to pick electors. They have emboldened people like Trump to exploit every weakness of the Constitution by suspending common sense and democratic values. GOP now feels entitled to ignore the will of the people.

 

[fskimospy]

The complicit SCOTUS has made GOP like a spoiled child once they gutted voting rights and greenlit partisan gerrymandering, and also their doctrine that legislatures have unchecked power to pick electors. They have emboldened people like Trump to exploit every weakness of the Constitution by suspending common sense and democratic values. GOP now feels entitled to ignore the will of the people.

It is the logical next step in their steady rejection of democracy.

1) limit the people who are allowed to vote.
2) if that's not enough to win, limit the ability to vote as much as possible.
3) if that's not enough to win, claim the votes were fraudulent.
4) if that's not enough to win, ignore the votes entirely.

 

[Uhtrinity]

At what point does trying to invalidate or throw out votes become sedition? This is getting ridiculously transparent what he is trying to do.

 

[zinfamous]

At what point does trying to invalidate or throw out votes become sedition? This is getting ridiculously transparent what he is trying to do.

I mean, it is that from the beginning.

The real question is if GOP enablers and supporters are down with sedition, and for how long.

The answer so far seems to be, maybe forever?

 

[theeedude]

At what point does trying to invalidate or throw out votes become sedition? This is getting ridiculously transparent what he is trying to do.

It never will be recognized as sedition with our rigged judiciary, because then they'll have to admit which side of the sedition they have been on.

 

[fskimospy]

One interesting point I read, independent of Republicans being worried about a primary election for upholding the founding principles of democracy, is that they may view it as strategically valuable to never really admit the election as legitimate in a way to 'birther' Biden.

I could totally see them doing that for the next four years - 'I take the secretaries of state at their word but we all know there was a ton of fraud and a lot of irregularities. I doubt we'll ever really know who won.'

 

[theeedude]

One interesting point I read, independent of Republicans being worried about a primary election for upholding the founding principles of democracy, is that they may view it as strategically valuable to never really admit the election as legitimate in a way to 'birther' Biden.
I could totally see them doing that for the next four years - 'I take the secretaries of state at their word but we all know there was a ton of fraud and a lot of irregularities. I doubt we'll ever really know who won.'

Sure, that's one way to look at it. But that's how you destroy countries, by having them split in half and living in their separate and incompatible realities.

 

[fskimospy]

Sure, that's one way to look at it. But that's how you destroy countries, by having them split in half and living in their separate and incompatible realities.

It sure is!

 

[Jhhnn]

The complicit SCOTUS has made GOP like a spoiled child once they gutted voting rights and greenlit partisan gerrymandering, and also their doctrine that legislatures have unchecked power to pick electors. They have emboldened people like Trump to exploit every weakness of the Constitution by suspending common sense and democratic values. GOP now feels entitled to ignore the will of the people.

That's not accurate. The SCOTUS has no such doctrine. They've been sticklers about state law being upheld & the role of legislatures in establishing those laws.

 

[OrByte]

It sure is!

It's exactly what is happening. Two realities.

 

[cytg111]

Wouldnt it be funny if the guy that STOLE GA gov by leveraging administration of the election to suppress the vote .... helped Trump flip a presidential election?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1329420741553643522

I mean. Ha ha ha ha. Oh man. Funny times.

Georgia Governor Brian Kemp Faces Investigation by House Panel (Published 2019)

The House Oversight and Reform Committee is investigating possible voting rights violations by Mr. Kemp, who presided over his own election in November.

www.nytimes.com

Voter roll purges... if anyone can do it its KEMP!!!!

 

[Stokely]

A temporary reprieve is exactly what Biden is. To my mind this is the perfect time to leave; there will be a lot of relieved people who think "bad times are over" now that Trump is gone. I think he's just the latest, worst boil on a festering fat country that has lost its way. Potentially less competition for jobs elsewhere if less Americans flee now.

Leaving would not be easy for me, at my age with a family and my wife's home reality-based business. My kids and wife are not as decided as I am as far as what this country has become. I'm not going to leave them at current levels of decay and I can't (won't) force people to go at this point. I'd really, really like to though. Too many alternate-reality people here for my comfort. They are everywhere, but we seem to have more.

 

[gothuevos]

Wouldnt it be funny if the guy that STOLE GA gov by leveraging administration of the election to suppress the vote .... helped Trump flip a presidential election?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1329420741553643522

I mean. Ha ha ha ha. Oh man. Funny times.

Georgia Governor Brian Kemp Faces Investigation by House Panel (Published 2019)

The House Oversight and Reform Committee is investigating possible voting rights violations by Mr. Kemp, who presided over his own election in November.

www.nytimes.com

Voter roll purges... if anyone can do it its KEMP!!!!

Speaking of GA, how is the recount expected to turn out?

 

[gothuevos]

A temporary reprieve is exactly what Biden is. To my mind this is the perfect time to leave; there will be a lot of relieved people who think "bad times are over" now that Trump is gone. I think he's just the latest, worst boil on a festering fat country that has lost its way. Potentially less competition for jobs elsewhere if less Americans flee now.

Leaving would not be easy for me, at my age with a family and my wife's home reality-based business. My kids and wife are not as decided as I am as far as what this country has become. I'm not going to leave them at current levels of decay and I can't (won't) force people to go at this point. I'd really, really like to though. Too many alternate-reality people here for my comfort. They are everywhere, but we seem to have more.

Well, no other countries are letting Americans in ATM.

 

[MrSquished]

A temporary reprieve is exactly what Biden is. To my mind this is the perfect time to leave; there will be a lot of relieved people who think "bad times are over" now that Trump is gone. I think he's just the latest, worst boil on a festering fat country that has lost its way. Potentially less competition for jobs elsewhere if less Americans flee now.

Leaving would not be easy for me, at my age with a family and my wife's home reality-based business. My kids and wife are not as decided as I am as far as what this country has become. I'm not going to leave them at current levels of decay and I can't (won't) force people to go at this point. I'd really, really like to though. Too many alternate-reality people here for my comfort. They are everywhere, but we seem to have more.

I was trying to explain this to a friend who said we won the war by beating Trump. I said no, that was just a big battle, but the war is just gearing up and it's not looking good, the whole system is in major decline and there are tens upon tens of millions of people here that live in a world created by a pathological liar.

I have EU citizenship so I could literally get in right now, but the language barrier is a thing. Not many jobs that don't require you to speak the language there, I know, I've started to look. I'm 45 and am in real estate so a pretty hyper-local career. I have some corporate experience in the past but not sure how that could translate to a job with an American company overseas at this age. The only place I could really go to is Cyprus, as I have a lot of family there and my sister and I own a home there - but the island is too small for me, not enough culture and also it's socially conservative. So I need to be on the mainland, since the UK is out since they went full on Trump by leaving the EU. If you do any research and have any tips, please share them.