(2014 NECRO) New (massive) Study: Vaccines not associated with autism.

[thraashman]

I'm fairly sure most people on here are not ones who believe vaccines cause autism, but I know we have a few. I believe this is one of the few issues which is not contentious by political affiliation.

Link to the study

Highlights
• Five cohort studies involving 1,256,407 children and five case-control studies involving 9920 children were included in this analysis.
•There was no relationship between vaccination and autism (OR: 0.99; 95% CI: 0.92 to 1.06).
•There was no relationship between vaccination and ASD (OR: 0.91; 95% CI: 0.68 to 1.20).
•There was no relationship between vaccination and MMR (OR: 0.84; 95% CI: 0.70 to 1.01).
• There was no relationship between vaccination and thimerosal (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.77 to 1.31).
• There was no relationship between vaccination and mercury (Hg) (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.93 to 1.07).
• Findings of this meta-analysis suggest that vaccinations are not associated with the development of autism or autism spectrum disorder.

 

[werepossum]

In other news, a new non-partisan study finds that cancer is not caused by rainbows, unicorns or witch doctors.

I'm not a fan of meta-studies, but this ground has been covered so many times that I can't be bothered to care. Everyone who can know this, already does know this.

 

[Broheim]

the study is pointless, anti vaccine nutjobs never cared about science, why should they start now?

 

[brycejones]

In before 600 links to natural news and alex jones from stewox.

 

[shira]

I'm fairly sure most people on here are not ones who believe vaccines cause autism, but I know we have a few. I believe this is one of the few issues which is not contentious by political affiliation.

Link to the study

The fact that 99+% of all actively-publishing epidemiologists agree with this result just proves how pervasive the conspiracy is. Never trust a consensus. Always seek out dissenting viewpoints expressed in non-peer-reviewed papers. Why, just look at the conclusive proof provided in this scholarly article published on Inforwars.com:

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-courts-discreetly-confirm-mmr-vaccine-causes-autism/

Ten-year-old Ryan Mojabi’s parents say he first suffered an encephalopathy after being vaccinated for MMR on December 19, 2003. Known as a “table injury,” encephalopathy is a recognized, compensable adverse reaction to vaccines, and one that the kangaroo vaccine court has previously linked to vaccines. According to Ryan’s parents, the MMR vaccine caused their son’s encephalopathy, which manifested as “neuroimmunologically mediated dysfunctions in the form of asthma and ASD.”

Let's read that telling statement again: "According the Ryan's parents, the MMR vaccine caused their son's encephalopathy."

Since Ryan's parents are not epidemiologists, they're clearly more qualified than trained scientists with PhDs to draw cause-and-effect conclusions.

Down with science! Your personal truth can be as broad as your imagination.

 

[Pulsar]

In before 600 links to natural news and alex jones from stewox.

QFT. Stewox, Michal1980, and NorseAMD incoming....

 

[Jaskalas]

People make a lot of noise regarding the connection.

It is comforting to know that it is being debunked. The whole Vaccines = Autism probably adds up to nothing more than a correlation over time. We added many industrial pollutants to our environment last century.

Still need to figure out which one is causing it.

 

[Anarchist420]

it is certainly caused by some pollutant or chemical that humans werent exposed to before 200 years ago. i dont see how vaccines can be harmless considering the chemicals in them and how they are administered.

and it is true that a very large number of people with autism have IBS.

 

[Iron Woode]

it is certainly caused by some pollutant or chemical that humans werent exposed to before 200 years ago. i dont see how vaccines can be harmless considering the chemicals in them and how they are administered.

and it is true that a very large number of people with autism have IBS.

and there it is folks.

the Jenny Mccarthy effect in full force.

 

[MongGrel]

QFT. Stewox, Michal1980, and NorseAMD incoming....

Nice one

Might be a few more, they lurking tonight.

 

[IronWing]

it is certainly caused by some pollutant or chemical that humans werent exposed to before 200 years ago.

Autism didn't exist 200 years ago, not a single case. People were slow, different, insane, batty, goofy, possessed by demons, melancholy, and just plain ill but no autism.

 

[drebo]

Autism is the 2000's version of the ADD "crisis" of the 1980s and 1990s.

At the end of the day, the number of autism diagnoses was considerably reduced when "bad behavior and outbursts" were taken off the diagnosis chart.

Unfortunately, those truely autistic have a tough time getting the resources they need because kids who are not really autistic are being diagnosed as such. Did you know that every "autistic" kid in California elementary schools has their own personal one-to-one helper?

 

[shira]

Autism is the 2000's version of the ADD "crisis" of the 1980s and 1990s.

At the end of the day, the number of autism diagnoses was considerably reduced when "bad behavior and outbursts" were taken off the diagnosis chart.

Unfortunately, those truely autistic have a tough time getting the resources they need because kids who are not really autistic are being diagnosed as such. Did you know that every "autistic" kid in California elementary schools has their own personal one-to-one helper?

Here is a chart of the incidence of autism per 1000 children over a 12 year period:

Please point out where "the number of autism diagnoses was considerably reduced when "bad behavior and outbursts" were taken off the diagnosis chart."

Or perhaps you have more recent data you can point us to where the incidence has "considerably reduced."

 

[DCal430]

the study is pointless, anti vaccine nutjobs never cared about science, why should they start now?

Sad thing is more money is spent on this vaccine research and autism, than actually helping people with autism improve their lives.

 

[MtnMan]

the study is pointless, anti vaccine nutjobs never cared about science, why should they start now?

+1

And pretty much why they cling with such ignorance to religion.

 

[MtnMan]

Here is a chart of the incidence of autism per 1000 children over a 12 year period:

Please point out where "the number of autism diagnoses was considerably reduced when "bad behavior and outbursts" were taken off the diagnosis chart."

Or perhaps you have more recent data you can point us to where the incidence has "considerably reduced."

All that indicates is the number of "official diagnosis" of autism, but not the actual rates.

 

[Exterous]

the study is pointless, anti vaccine nutjobs never cared about science, why should they start now?

Sadly I think you're right

Let's read that telling statement again: "According the Ryan's parents, the MMR vaccine caused their son's encephalopathy."

Since Ryan's parents are not epidemiologists, they're clearly more qualified than trained scientists with PhDs to draw cause-and-effect conclusions.

Well duh - if they were epidemiologists they would be in on the conspiracy!

 

[drebo]

Here is a chart of the incidence of autism per 1000 children over a 12 year period:

Please point out where "the number of autism diagnoses was considerably reduced when "bad behavior and outbursts" were taken off the diagnosis chart."

Or perhaps you have more recent data you can point us to where the incidence has "considerably reduced."

Where are your numbers post 2007? Go look at those.

The diagnosis changed somewhere around 2010.

 

[shira]

Where are your numbers post 2007? Go look at those.

The diagnosis changed somewhere around 2010.

To repeat what I wrote in my post

"Or perhaps you have more recent data you can point us to where the incidence has "considerably reduced."

You're making the claim. Now show us the data.

 

[shira]

All that indicates is the number of "official diagnosis" of autism, but not the actual rates.

This has to be one of the stupidest so-called points in the history of ATPN. And since no one can know the "actual rate" (or do you have some special arrangement with God?), that must make it really easy to argue that "actual" autism rates have gone up, down, or sideways.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Facts, data and logic; all of these go out the window by people blinded by hate and anger.

 

[momeNt]

Autism and gut flora still at least has a correlative link though correct?

I believe I read a study that autism symptoms are actually diminished when healthy gut bacteria is promoted somehow, either through probiotics or fecal transplant?

 

[MasterOfUsers]

Autism and gut flora still at least has a correlative link though correct?

I believe I read a study that autism symptoms are actually diminished when healthy gut bacteria is promoted somehow, either through probiotics or fecal transplant?

I would love to see some links to that study.

Are we sure it's not flouride poisoning that is the cause?

 

[sportage]

Another the more massive study to note, Michele Bachmann is associated with brain damage.

 

[shira]

Another the more massive study to note, Michele Bachmann is associated with brain damage.

We need a good study to determine if the incidence of Michele Bachmann has been rising the past several years. And if the incidence is rising, can we blame it on vaccines?