(2014 NECRO) New (massive) Study: Vaccines not associated with autism.

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rudder

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I think they should study a link between anti-depressants taken during pregnancy and autism. The number of people on anti-depressants has sky rocketed.... just like the number of kids diagnosed with autism.
 

momeNt

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thraashman

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Now what if certain vaccines impact your gut? Oh noes!

Well there's really no reason why they should. Vaccines teach your body to fight off specific infections, they aren't like antibiotics that might kill the resident bacteria in your gut. In addition as has already been established, no link between autism and vaccinations has been found.
 

MasterOfUsers

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I thought you were being sarcastic, hence the flouride remark. I haven't seen this before, i just skimmed it but i'll read through it when i get home. If true it would link the overuse of antibiotics to autism which doesn't seem like a far fetched idea at all. (especially in nations where antibiotics are administered to treat viral infections like the common cold or influenza) Vanomycin is specifically used to treat gut infections caused by antibiotics.
 

momeNt

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I thought you were being sarcastic, hence the flouride remark. I haven't seen this before, i just skimmed it but i'll read through it when i get home. If true it would link the overuse of antibiotics to autism which doesn't seem like a far fetched idea at all. (especially in nations where antibiotics are administered to treat viral infections like the common cold or influenza) Vanomycin is specifically used to treat gut infections caused by antibiotics.

No worries.

When I first heard about autism and vaccines I thought they were were relating it to gut health, but apparently the actual vaccine studies were off the wall and didn't have their foundation in any truth at all really.
 

MasterOfUsers

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No worries.

When I first heard about autism and vaccines I thought they were were relating it to gut health, but apparently the actual vaccine studies were off the wall and didn't have their foundation in any truth at all really.

Yeah, vaccines don't actually affect intestinal bacterial flora at all but antibiotics sure do. Vaccines are extremely specific (which is why there are a lot of them, there is no such thing as a broad spectrum vaccine), you'd need to be vaccinated against the specific good bacterium in your gut flora for it to cause the immune system to eliminate them and it still wouldn't affect them unless they enter the barrier into the bloodstream (where it shouldn't be anyway).
 

shortylickens

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pcgeek11

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"Italian Court Rulings Contradict Special U.S. Vaccine Court"

Wow! Which one should I believe.
 

master_shake_

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is it entirely possible that every kid with autism has gotten vaccines?

because every kid gets vaccines?

that's the same as saying every house that burns down has windows.
 

allisolm

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Italy has just just made a court judgement against vaccines saying it causes autism. It is now LEGALLY OFFICIAL and the US media is blocking it from being heard!! (No surprise @ all)

http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/u-s-media-blackout-italian-courts-rule-vaccines-cause-autism


You can search for it other places also!! (Besides the link above)

A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION!!

There was no court judgement that was "just" made. There were actually 2 judgements. One was made in 2012 and reversed in 2015 and one was made in 2014. The article you linked to was first published on 13 Feb 2015. So it looks like not only the US media but, indeed, the entire world media has pretty much ignored it - and rightly so.
 
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Iron Woode

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Italy has just just made a court judgement against vaccines saying it causes autism. It is now LEGALLY OFFICIAL and the US media is blocking it from being heard!! (No surprise @ all)

http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/u-s-media-blackout-italian-courts-rule-vaccines-cause-autism


You can search for it other places also!! (Besides the link above)

A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION!!
LOL

Italian courts convicted a girl of murder even though there was no evidence except for the statements by the actual murderer.

I will take their courts seriously when everyone on them resigns and publicly apologizes.
 
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Perspective

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dainthomas

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ElFenix

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Italian courts are somewhere below Soviet show trials in credibility
 

DCal430

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I'm fairly sure most people on here are not ones who believe vaccines cause autism, but I know we have a few. I believe this is one of the few issues which is not contentious by political affiliation.

Link to the study

There is an error in your highlights, it is 84% OR for MMR (vaccine) and Autism not MMR and Vaccines.