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(2014 NECRO) New (massive) Study: Vaccines not associated with autism.

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thraashman said:
Well there's really no reason why they should. Vaccines teach your body to fight off specific infections, they aren't like antibiotics that might kill the resident bacteria in your gut. In addition as has already been established, no link between autism and vaccinations has been found.
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Without being an expert on the subject, I suspect that today's heavy overuse of antibiotics may have an effect on bacteria helpful to the body. *shrug*

This latest discussion's got me thinking and given me a direction to start reading into it...
 
MasterOfUsers said:
Yeah, vaccines don't actually affect intestinal bacterial flora at all but antibiotics sure do. Vaccines are extremely specific (which is why there are a lot of them, there is no such thing as a broad spectrum vaccine), you'd need to be vaccinated against the specific good bacterium in your gut flora for it to cause the immune system to eliminate them and it still wouldn't affect them unless they enter the barrier into the bloodstream (where it shouldn't be anyway).
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Vaccines protect against viruses, not bacteria.
 
Rakehellion said:
Vaccines protect against viruses, not bacteria.
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I think you need to go back to med school.


For reference: Antibiotics only work on living things which means they cant kill a virus, only a bacteria.
Viruses (virii?) dont fit the definition of life. They cannot be killed in the traditional sense.
 
ctbaars said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwuyxyBUmwY
I listen to Gary Null on WBAI in NY at lunch time sometimes, as an alternative viewpoint.
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Vaccination Information Network... sounds like it's going to be a good source of information, especially with this in their "About" page on Youtube:
Vaccination Information Network (VINE) originally started as a Facebook page, where it grew into arguably Facebook's most popular source of reliable vaccination information.

As with many other unbiased vaccination organisations, VINE has also been under attack from Big Pharma, with censorship restrictions occasionally being enforced by Facebook.

The VINE website has been created in order to allow the public unrestricted access to the full range of vaccination information, including articles and videos.
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http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Vaccination_Information_Network
Vaccination Information Network (VINE) is a rabid anti-vaccination organization.
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https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.or...t-as-legislation-change-forces-a-name-change/
Yet, the practice of anti-vaccine groups using misleading names is not new. In the US there is the National Vaccine Information Centre, or NVIC, who refer to themselves a vaccine watch dog, and in New Zealand there is VINE, or Vaccination Information Network. Though the latter are at least honest about their agenda. Erwin Alber who runs the organisation doesn’t try to disguise his nutbaggery.
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Brainonska511 said:
Vaccination Information Network... sounds like it's going to be a good source of information, especially with this in their "About" page on Youtube:
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Vaccination_Information_Network
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.or...t-as-legislation-change-forces-a-name-change/
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Of course it's normally their kids and others who suffer for their erroneous beliefs.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/03/25/unsurprisingly_the_children_of_anti_vaxxers_are_the_biggest_victims_of_measles.html
 
Dude111 said:
Doctors admit they know squat about vaccines...

http://truthkings.com/doctors-admit-know-nothing-vaccines
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I love the main clickable links on that page, such as "Flouridation", and "Doctors are the problem". I wondered WTF "weather wars" was about, to find this line:

Prince, who recently and unexpectedly passed away, also seemed to believe in the reality of chemtrails.
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But back to your link:

A new video features a compilation of vaccine experts as well as former Doctors who dismiss the idea that Doctors and “Scientist” should be considered the leading experts when it comes to vaccines.
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There's only one expert scientist on the topic of vaccines? I'm morbidly curious about who these vaccine experts might be if they weren't the scientists who created the vaccines, but then in the author's mind (probably yours too), scientists who create vaccines simply decided to turn up at work one day, picked some random ingredients, then proceeded to inject them into human subjects, with the test conditions being, "if the human subjects didn't die specifically of the disease that the vaccine was supposed to prevent, it was a success!".
 
This is working it's way through the courts: https://www.drugwatch.com/paxil/lawsuit.php

In addition to birth defects, a 2015 study also linked Paxil and other selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) to an increased risk of autism in babies born to women who take the drug while pregnant. The study, published in JAMA Pediatrics by Anick Bérard and collagues, revealed women who take antidepressants in the second and third trimester have double the chance of having a child diagnosed with autism by age 7.
 
Dude111 said:
Doctors admit they know squat about vaccines...

http://truthkings.com/doctors-admit-know-nothing-vaccines
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You forgot the rest of the title!

"Doctors admit they know squat about vaccines, instead defer to forum crusaders and people who could not pass an organic chemistry class to save their lives as knowing the real truth"

This is right up there on my watch list right after"Prince, Chemtrails, and his mysterious final message" (No, I'm not kidding, that's a video)

:thumbsup:
 
IGBT said:
This is working it's way through the courts: https://www.drugwatch.com/paxil/lawsuit.php

In addition to birth defects, a 2015 study also linked Paxil and other selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) to an increased risk of autism in babies born to women who take the drug while pregnant. The study, published in JAMA Pediatrics by Anick Bérard and collagues, revealed women who take antidepressants in the second and third trimester have double the chance of having a child diagnosed with autism by age 7.
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I suppose that might be possible. But its been made pretty darn clear the flu vaccine does NOT mess up babies.
 
IGBT said:
This is working it's way through the courts: https://www.drugwatch.com/paxil/lawsuit.php

In addition to birth defects, a 2015 study also linked Paxil and other selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) to an increased risk of autism in babies born to women who take the drug while pregnant. The study, published in JAMA Pediatrics by Anick Bérard and collagues, revealed women who take antidepressants in the second and third trimester have double the chance of having a child diagnosed with autism by age 7.
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That one is very interesting. I hope there are follow up studies to verify if a link is indeed existent.


Also, I was very confused when I saw a thread on the front page started by me, I knew I hadn't started a thread in a long time. Turns out there's a reason.
 
Dude111 said:
Doctors admit they know squat about vaccines...

http://truthkings.com/doctors-admit-know-nothing-vaccines
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A real "Who's who" of "doctors." You'd think they would have some experts and knowledgeable people in the youtube video, right? Let's see:

Suzanne Humphries: Nephrologist, turned holistic medicine practitioner, who operates her own anti-vaccine website.
Mark Geier: an interesting researcher who has since had his medical license revoked in every state he was licensed, who now "treats" Austism patients with treatments with no proven benefit
Toni Bark, Pediatric ER physician turned holistic medicine provider.
Tetyana Obukhanych, researcher with zero peer-reviewed publications on vaccination or the immune response to vaccines.
Lawrence Palevsky: Another ER physician turned holistic medicine provider, who treats by "preventive medicine, nutrition, lifestyle changes, acupuncture and Chinese Medicine, chiropractic, osteopathy, cranial-sacral therapy, environmental medicine, homeopathy, essential oils and natural healing modalities such as aromatherapy, yoga, Reiki, meditation, reflexology and mindfulness."

Talk about the slimiest group of "experts" that could be rounded up and interviewed.
 
ctbaars said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwuyxyBUmwY
I listen to Gary Null on WBAI in NY at lunch time sometimes, as an alternative viewpoint.
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"I think that 1+1=3" That statement doesn't qualify as an "alternative viewpoint" - that statement qualifies as an incorrect statement.
vi edit said:
Just dropping this here...

http://www.utswmedicine.org/stories/articles/year-2015/assets/birth-rates-full.jpg
http://blogs.nature.com/news/files/Autism rate table.jpg

Chances of autism go up as mothers are older. Nothing fancy or catchy about it. Just simple stats that women really shouldn't be having kids into their late 30's and 40's. Lots of statistics start working against you.
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Out of curiosity, I haven't looked at all the research - could autism be caused by some yet to be discovered STD? Seems that as you get older, the number of sexual partners has also increased.
 
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