19 Year Old Girl Shot Looking for Help

[Londo_Jowo]

The fact the warrant was sent back to the police by the prosecutors office tends to show that the police lack the evidence required to press charges per Michigan's Castle Doctrine law. I have to wonder if charges will ever be filed in this case.

 

[nehalem256]

airbags can knock you unconcious FWIW

newer cars are made to crumple, its pretty easy to damage a car to the point of it not being drivable if you contact something at the right spot.

maybe someone was parked hanging out into the street, with no lights etc and she clipped it and punctured a tire in the process?

If only newer cars were equipped with some kind of light emitting device on the front so you could see what was in front of you

You don't say?
I was asking specifically about how believable it was that his discharged the shotgun towards her head by accident without the shotgun already being raised. To me, that shows intent.

Don't people normally aim toward the chest though? So wouldn't the fact that she was hit in the head if anything show it was an accident?

Seatbelts are designed to keep you safe, yes....but you can still hit your head on something. You might not fly out of the car, but you can definitely hit your head.

Well I guess if you are driving fast enough and don't make any attempt to brake. Remember streets that have parked cars typically have lower speed limits.

And how do you know how damaged the car was? You don't know why she left the scene of the accident. Nobody does.

I thought we did know that. She left the scene to summon assistance because her car was broken right?

 

[Fayd]

You don't say?

I was asking specifically about how believable it was that his discharged the shotgun towards her head by accident without the shotgun already being raised. To me, that shows intent.

it's unlikely, but it's concievable that it was without aiming.

Seatbelts are designed to keep you safe, yes....but you can still hit your head on something. You might not fly out of the car, but you can definitely hit your head.

not sure why you're bothering to argue that point. whether or not she was wearing a seat-belt is not relevant to the thread.

And how do you know how damaged the car was? You don't know why she left the scene of the accident. Nobody does.

i'm pretty sure the cops do.

 

[SheHateMe]

not sure why you're bothering to argue that point. whether or not she was wearing a seat-belt is not relevant to the thread.

You're right. I should just put Nehalem on ignore.

 

[ElFenix]

don't text while driving kids. you might end up with a shotgun blast to the face.

 

[LTC8K6]

Well, the accident was at 1:30 in Detroit, and she was shot at 3:30ish in Dearborn Heights. The border is right in the area where the accident and shooting happened.

Since the police know the accident was at 1:30, I'm assuming someone reported it.

My guess would be that she left the accident scene because the Detroit police took too long to respond, if they responded at all.

Not sure what she was doing for those ~2 hours, though.

She must have encountered other people or knocked on other doors.

She was shot in the mouth, basically.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Could someone please link where the police mention her car and an accident. The only mention of such I can find is by her family.

 

[LTC8K6]

Londo_Jowo:Could someone please link where the police mention her car and an accident. The only mention of such is by her family.

McBride’s family has said she was involved in an auto accident and had gone to the house on Outer Drive for help when she was shot do death by the homeowner.

“I’ll confirm that she was in an accident in Detroit and that she left the accident scene, and then some hours transpired” before the shooting, Serwatowski said.

Serwatowski said the shooting occurred about 3:40 a.m. and the accident happened at about 1:30 a.m. He declined to say what police believe McBride was doing before and after the accident.

http://www.freep.com/article/201311...hot-in-face-not-back-of-head-Dearborn-Heights

 

[brycejones]

don't text while driving kids. you might end up with a shotgun blast to the face.

Someone needs to turn that into a PSA....

 

[RampantAndroid]

Yeah they do:

But that doesn't make sense, unless she was leaving by walking backwards:

She was shot as she was leaving the suspect's porch

 

[LTC8K6]

Maybe after the accident, she was loopy and walked off acting strange?

It's over 2 hours from the reported accident to her death on that porch.

 

[LTC8K6]

But that doesn't make sense, unless she was leaving by walking backwards:

Yeah, the police have made it clear that she was shot in the face, near her mouth, and not in the back of her head.

 

[dank69]

But that doesn't make sense, unless she was leaving by walking backwards:

Backing away slowly, perhaps?

 

[Jaskalas]

The fact the warrant was sent back to the police by the prosecutors office tends to show that the police lack the evidence required to press charges per Michigan's Castle Doctrine law. I have to wonder if charges will ever be filed in this case.

I'm strongly against Castle Doctrine being applied to this case, unless they give us some solid reasoning.

 

[LTC8K6]

There's no way anyone knows if she was leaving when she was shot except the guy who shot her.

 

[OverVolt]

When the cops did the same thing a little while ago with that guy in the car accident what happened?

 

[LTC8K6]

When the cops did the same thing a little while ago with that guy in the car accident what happened?

The cop has been charged.

Not quite the same scenario, though.

http://news.yahoo.com/ferrell-kerrick-police-unarmed-shooting-charlotte-191520307.html

 

[OverVolt]

The cop has been charged.

Not quite the same scenario, though.

http://news.yahoo.com/ferrell-kerrick-police-unarmed-shooting-charlotte-191520307.html

Oh I see, the homeowner is probably screwed.

Oh.... I see... Detroit.

 

[dank69]

Oh I see, the homeowner is probably screwed. Rightfully so too IMO. I've had drunk people beating on my door at 2am and I didn't flip out. I properly pegged them for what they were, drunk people at 2am.

There was no way some injured 19y/o girl was all that much of a threat no matter how frantically she was banging on the door for help.

Oh.... I see... Detroit.

You're forgetting about the raping crews.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I'm strongly against Castle Doctrine being applied to this case, unless they give us some solid reasoning.

I believe the Castle Doctrine is automatically applied until proven otherwise and this is why the prosecutors office is looking for more information.

http://www.freep.com/article/201311...hot-in-face-not-back-of-head-Dearborn-Heights

The Wayne County Prosecutor’s Office issued a statement this morning saying that it is awaiting further investigation by Dearborn Heights police before deciding whether any criminal charges will be authorized in the case.
“I know the family is anxious to see this man (the alleged shooter) charged but the prosecutor’s office is telling us they want a lot more information before they make a decision,” Serwatowski said.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Backing away slowly, perhaps?

Yeah - at which point it's even worse for the homeowner. If she was backing off and he shot...he's screwed no matter what.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

http://www.freep.com/article/201311...hot-in-face-not-back-of-head-Dearborn-Heights

Thanks.

This is the part that really doesn't make sense.

“I’ll confirm that she was in an accident in Detroit and that she left the accident scene, and then some hours transpired” before the shooting, Serwatowski said.

 

[LTC8K6]

Thanks.

This is the part that really doesn't make sense.

Yeah, there has been no explanation for the over 2 hour gap between the car accident and the shooting.

Or any mention or explanation of the distance between the crash site and where she was shot.

It appears that the crash was in Detroit's jurisdiction, while the shooting was in Dearborn Heights jurisdiction.

The boundaries are right near each other in the area.

 

[dank69]

Yeah, there has been no explanation for the over 2 hour gap between the car accident and the shooting.

Or any mention or explanation of the distance between the crash site and where she was shot.

It appears that the crash was in Detroit's jurisdiction, while the shooting was in Dearborn Heights jurisdiction.

The boundaries are right near each other in the area.

Post 34 has a link claiming 4 blocks distance.

 

[Sheep221]

you do realise that you discharge a shotgun without aiming it purposefully right?

people are stupid, and SADLY accidental discharges happen fairly often, even to police officers



its extrme to claim that anyone should have a firearm even though its a consitutional right? wow OK then. and its extreme to be armed when an unknown person is knocking at your door in the middle of the night?

you are extremely trusting



accidents happen. I teach firearm safety at a range and have a NRA certification for it.

the first thing most idiots/newbs/no nothings do when they pick up a gun is put their finger on the trigger, just to hold it

its a HUGE HUGE no no, but most people do it because they dont know any better.

I am not saying I beleive it was an accident, but people get shot in accidental discharges all the time, its perfectly feasbile that person had the gun pointed towards her an dfinger on the trigger with no intent to shoot, because thats what untrained gun owners tend to do

got spooked bumped flinched etc and BOOM gunshot no intent to shoot but it happened

yeah I call that an accident, even though its caused by ignorance


hell even trained people do it, police officers, nationally, on average, have more accidental discharges than CCW holders, per person, that are reported

Dude it's not about constitutional rights, it's not about weapons, it's about raw trust, politeness and kindness and communication.

Ah no matter explaining this, most of AT forums are basement dwellers who don't know how interpersonal contact works so they expect anyone randomly appearing nearby is a respawned enemy.

If you think that greeting someone knocking on your door with a gun is correct you have some serious issues.
This is your american gun culture, other countries have guns, they have violence and burglaries, but such a retarded beliefs are nowhere else, only in america.