the thing that always get's me when these kinds of things happen in that despite that the shooter was obviously acting in self defense and that the attacker is at fault, people still find excuses. i am 100% that during his funeral, something will be mentioned how he was always such a good boy and never hurt a fly or something like that.
i imagine that the people who are against the law think that the shooter should have just given over his money to avoid killing the teenager despite the fact that the teenager had a gun pointed at him.
i imagine that the people who are against the law think that the shooter should have just given over his money to avoid killing the teenager despite the fact that the teenager had a gun pointed at him.
wtf... kid pulls a gun, and the guy that shoots him in self defense is being crucified? Are people really this fvckin stupid?
42 minutes and no one supports the kid?
I think this is the first time ATOT unanimously agrees on something!
Good sense must be catching on
I think this is the first time ATOT unanimously agrees on something!
Good sense must be catching on 
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I wish he had more compassion before deciding to commit armed robbery and attempted murder.
I wish he had felt sad about robbing or killing a innocent man.
I wish his family would give their collect heads a shake and STFU about it.
I wish his family would apologize for raising a gansta-thug wannabe.
I wish that shrine was burnt to the ground.
Jeff7
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Agreed.
The kid apparently placed a value on human life somewhere below that of the average person's wallet. How much reason is there to place more value than that on the kid's life?
Guns aren't the problem - they bestow power upon a person, but of course, with power comes responsibility, which is something of which some people lack any sense. Buy that weapon if you choose, but do not abuse its power.
Argue against guns, and you might as well argue against human intelligence. That intelligence, when misused, has allowed for unspeakably tragic losses of life. Should it be outlawed as a result?
Iron Woode - well said.
What was the first?Originally posted by: mugs
Wow, this is the second time in recent memory where everyone on AT has agreed.
I'm probably one of the most anti-violence individuals I know, and even I would support Wells' actions in this instance. It's indeed sad that a 15-year-old is dead, and (as is always the case), it's important that we work at understanding what would've caused him to do what he did, but the fact remains that he threatened violence against another individual, who reacted appropriately in such a situation.
mugs
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Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
What was the first?Originally posted by: mugs
Wow, this is the second time in recent memory where everyone on AT has agreed.
I believe it was MetalMat who posted a thread to the effect of "should I co-sign a car loan for my girlfriend who has filed for bankruptcy and whose parents won't co-sign for her?"
TallBill
Lifer
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Not necessarily. I would disown any family member that robbed someone at gunpoint. Anyways, fact is that he didn't grow out of whatever troubles. He fvcked it up, just like so many other city kids do.
Assault with a deadly weapon (ie: gun) should be punishable by death.
1/2 the articles read that the deceased thief was holding the gun and the others are vague or appear to have the other thief holding the gun.
In either case I have no problem with the outcome of justifiable homicide. But, if the thief that got away was holding the gun the victim needs to do some serious practicing if he continues to carry.
Which leads to my biggest worry about people with concealed carry permits. How good are they in a crisis with their weapon of choice? How cognitive will they be of the area and people around them when a crisis occurs that requires them to draw their weapon. Defending yourself is one thing but not being able to control your weapon and killing or wounding someone not directly involved, which didn't happen in this case, is another.
In either case I have no problem with the outcome of justifiable homicide. But, if the thief that got away was holding the gun the victim needs to do some serious practicing if he continues to carry.
Which leads to my biggest worry about people with concealed carry permits. How good are they in a crisis with their weapon of choice? How cognitive will they be of the area and people around them when a crisis occurs that requires them to draw their weapon. Defending yourself is one thing but not being able to control your weapon and killing or wounding someone not directly involved, which didn't happen in this case, is another.
TallBill
Lifer
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
What was the first?Originally posted by: mugs
Wow, this is the second time in recent memory where everyone on AT has agreed.
I believe it was MetalMat who posted a thread to the effect of "should I co-sign a car loan for my girlfriend who has filed for bankruptcy and whose parents won't co-sign for her?"
There was at least one other one as well.
Compassion for his family would likely be warranted, but you also have to consider that they (especially his parents) might have contributed to the development of these behaviors.
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