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Zero Gauge Cable

harobikes333

harobikes333

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I'm looking on ebay and they have 30 ft of monster cable zero gauge for only 72 dollars. Normally it's 5 bucks a foot. Should I get it? ( I need at least 20 feet to get to my amp in the back and then some for a ground.
 
wow rubycon. thanks for that info. the monster cable still right now on that sale is a little cheaper but not by much.

I'm about to make a new topic for a question relating to amps and a/b amps and D amps since it's a whole different topic
 
I'm going to put on my 'old man' hat for a moment.

TURN THAT CRAP DOWN. You don't need to be blasting your crappy music while driving in front of my house. Your music sucks. Don't force it on others.
 
Running a cable from the front to the back of the vehicle really only requires a gauge sufficient to allow for charging of your batteries. Thus in a high power system you have a dedicated alternator or alternator winding if so equipped. This means the sound system is on its own dedicated electrical system from the vehicle system. A large battery is next to the amplifiers and usually a large cable can be used however a battery is still a relatively high impedance device. If you want the best "peak amps" available to your amp install a large capacitor - 1Farad or so right at the amp power terminals. The effect of the capacitor is really noticed if your runs are long and to the vehicle primary battery as well. It won't make up for long bass pedal notes as once the capacitor reserve is depleted the amp draws on the vehicle system, etc. But it greatly improves impact performance as long as your program source actually has it. 😉
 
Originally posted by: XZeroII
I'm going to put on my 'old man' hat for a moment.

TURN THAT CRAP DOWN. You don't need to be blasting your crappy music while driving in front of my house. Your music sucks. Don't force it on others.
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^ ^ Don't worry xZeroII, I've insulated my car to the tenth degree and I'm still working to make it even more "sound proof" I too hate people that "share" their music. Especially at late hours of the night.
 
Originally posted by: Rubycon
Running a cable from the front to the back of the vehicle really only requires a gauge sufficient to allow for charging of your batteries. Thus in a high power system you have a dedicated alternator or alternator winding if so equipped. This means the sound system is on its own dedicated electrical system from the vehicle system. A large battery is next to the amplifiers and usually a large cable can be used however a battery is still a relatively high impedance device. If you want the best "peak amps" available to your amp install a large capacitor - 1Farad or so right at the amp power terminals. The effect of the capacitor is really noticed if your runs are long and to the vehicle primary battery as well. It won't make up for long bass pedal notes as once the capacitor reserve is depleted the amp draws on the vehicle system, etc. But it greatly improves impact performance as long as your program source actually has it. 😉
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I have a Capacitor installed right now. Once I install this new amp though I'll have 1600Watts RMS going to my speakers and subs combined. So... I'm going to have to get a new alternator and yeah I'll also need a high performance battery.

Not sure what you mean by high impedance battery...? ( these batteries are dry type not your typical wet lead batteries you have in your car )
 
Originally posted by: Rubycon
Running a cable from the front to the back of the vehicle really only requires a gauge sufficient to allow for charging of your batteries. Thus in a high power system you have a dedicated alternator or alternator winding if so equipped. This means the sound system is on its own dedicated electrical system from the vehicle system. A large battery is next to the amplifiers and usually a large cable can be used however a battery is still a relatively high impedance device. If you want the best "peak amps" available to your amp install a large capacitor - 1Farad or so right at the amp power terminals. The effect of the capacitor is really noticed if your runs are long and to the vehicle primary battery as well. It won't make up for long bass pedal notes as once the capacitor reserve is depleted the amp draws on the vehicle system, etc. But it greatly improves impact performance as long as your program source actually has it. 😉
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wow, my head hurts.


both of them..
 
If you're goal is truly quality sound inside the car, you don't need 0-gauge wire (or the amp that draws that much current).
 
Originally posted by: Rubycon
Running a cable from the front to the back of the vehicle really only requires a gauge sufficient to allow for charging of your batteries. Thus in a high power system you have a dedicated alternator or alternator winding if so equipped. This means the sound system is on its own dedicated electrical system from the vehicle system. A large battery is next to the amplifiers and usually a large cable can be used however a battery is still a relatively high impedance device. If you want the best "peak amps" available to your amp install a large capacitor - 1Farad or so right at the amp power terminals. The effect of the capacitor is really noticed if your runs are long and to the vehicle primary battery as well. It won't make up for long bass pedal notes as once the capacitor reserve is depleted the amp draws on the vehicle system, etc. But it greatly improves impact performance as long as your program source actually has it. 😉
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Did you just dis his muisc:shocked:
 
A battery's impedance determines how much current it put out. A capacitor's impedance is so low it can put out thousands of peak amps!

I don't know what you're talking about "dissing" music. I do pro audio for live performances which have real dynamic range. Recordings particularly most modern stuff have NO dynamic range. For live music you need 100kW to sound good in a decent theater. If you have 1000's of watts for a recording with little dynamic range it's just going to be loud.
 
^ ^ He can go ahead and dis my music. I listen to all kinds minus screamo, etc

Dman877. I'm not looking for super duper SQ. Although I do have custom installed ( by me) components in the front to improve my imaging, etc.
 
Originally posted by: sdifox
wtf kind of current are you running that you need 0 gauge?
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I installed a system in a friend trunk with 00 gauge. it was a wall of 6 12" something like 2500 watts RMS. it was absurd but it would jump a cell phone a good 6 feet off the top of the truck, lol. It was a comp truck tho, go figure.
 
Originally posted by: Rubycon
A battery's impedance determines how much current it put out. A capacitor's impedance is so low it can put out thousands of peak amps!

I don't know what you're talking about "dissing" music. I do pro audio for live performances which have real dynamic range. Recordings particularly most modern stuff have NO dynamic range. For live music you need 100kW to sound good in a decent theater. If you have 1000's of watts for a recording with little dynamic range it's just going to be loud.
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High Current Battery

They're suppose to be a replacement basically for a capacitor. Granted I even know that they can't compare to a capacitor as far as being super fast...?
 
Originally posted by: harobikes333

They're suppose to be a replacement basically for a capacitor. Granted I even know that they can't compare to a capacitor as far as being super fast...?
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AGM is good technology. Not sure about longevity - does the peak output fade after 1 year? Capacitors can last longer. Certainly would be easier to install. Might want to ask around on a car audio forum for sure and get some answers from people with actual experience.
 
Originally posted by: Rubycon
Originally posted by: harobikes333

They're suppose to be a replacement basically for a capacitor. Granted I even know that they can't compare to a capacitor as far as being super fast...?
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AGM is good technology. Not sure about longevity - does the peak output fade after 1 year? Capacitors can last longer. Certainly would be easier to install. Might want to ask around on a car audio forum for sure and get some answers from people with actual experience.
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I've talked to car audio store owners ( over 20 years doing it ) He swears by the new batteries i guess. He doesn't even sell capacitors at his audio shop.
 
Originally posted by: harobikes333


I've talked to car audio store owners ( over 20 years doing it ) He swears by the new batteries i guess. He doesn't even sell capacitors at his audio shop.
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1900A output - I'd love to drop a 1" diameter drill rod across those terminals to see the sparks! :evil:

:laugh:
 
Originally posted by: Rubycon
Originally posted by: harobikes333


I've talked to car audio store owners ( over 20 years doing it ) He swears by the new batteries i guess. He doesn't even sell capacitors at his audio shop.
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1900A output - I'd love to drop a 1" diameter drill rod across those terminals to see the sparks! :evil:

:laugh:
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That WOULD be fun. From far.
 
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