Question Zen 6 Speculation Thread

marees · Wednesday at 2:11 PM

SteinFG said:
MLID says it's either a 2+2 or a 2+4 zen 6/6c, plus 2 CU igpu, plus 50 tops npu. But realistically, it's too far away to say.

That would be a competitor for the rumored Sonoma Valley (Mendocino replacement) right ?

SteinFG · Wednesday at 2:12 PM

To be honest, considering how awful copilot+ rollout is, I doubt this chip will even come out. We might have Zen4 refreshes as the mainstream option for the 4th or 5th year in a row

SteinFG · Wednesday at 2:15 PM

marees said:
That would be a competitor for the rumored Sonoma Valley (Mendocino replacement) right ?

Look at the roadmap on the previous page. Mendocino is still limping along, no updates planned for really-low-end

SteinFG · Wednesday at 2:18 PM

Next year, Apple is entering a $600-$700 laptop market with a tiny 3nm 2P+4E chip, so I think there should be some decent option from AMD and Intel to counter that. But fat NPU is definitely not the right answer.

adroc_thurston · Wednesday at 2:18 PM

marees said:
That would be a competitor for the rumored Sonoma Valley (Mendocino replacement) right ?

no that one's dead.
BB has socket commonality with the rest of Medusa.
It's a KRK2 replacement, really.

SteinFG said:
Next year, Apple is entering a $600-$700 laptop market with a tiny 3nm 2P+4E chip

with a normal Ax Pro SOC yes.

marees · Wednesday at 2:27 PM

511 said:
Bruh wtf 50 TOPS it's not a CPU but a NPU with the spec. Microsoft is gonna brand this as Buy a copilot PC and get a CPU/GPU Free

If it were a RDNA 5 igpu then they wouldn't have needed an NPU here

fastandfurious6 · Wednesday at 2:45 PM

marees said:
What is Medusa Baby / Medusa BB

Abwx · Wednesday at 3:24 PM

Some news at Computerbase, until you realize that they poached some posts at AT forum.

Ryzen „Medusa“ & Epyc „Venice“: AMD Zen 6 soll Chiplets in N2P und I/O-Die in N3P nutzen

Mit Zen 6(c) soll AMD für die CPU-Chiplets auf TSMC N2P, für den I/O-Die auf N3P setzen. Das wäre ein großer Sprung für die Chiplet-CPUs.

www.computerbase.de

adroc_thurston · Wednesday at 3:45 PM

Abwx said:
Some news at Computerbase, until you realize that they poached some posts at AT forum.

pesky little krauts.
The sentence is 22-hour shifts at Diehl Defense factories.

Saylick · Wednesday at 4:13 PM

Abwx said:
Some news at Computerbase, until you realize that they poached some posts at AT forum.

Ryzen „Medusa“ & Epyc „Venice“: AMD Zen 6 soll Chiplets in N2P und I/O-Die in N3P nutzen

Mit Zen 6(c) soll AMD für die CPU-Chiplets auf TSMC N2P, für den I/O-Die auf N3P setzen. Das wäre ein großer Sprung für die Chiplet-CPUs.

www.computerbase.de

Same with 3DCenter now reporting at AT0 is intended for cloud gaming: https://www.3dcenter.org/news/news-des-1-september-2025

Their 1st source is quoting @adroc_thurston

Also, RGT getting tipped as well:

which leads to....

adroc_thurston · Wednesday at 4:20 PM

Saylick said:
Same with 3DCenter now reporting at AT0 is intended for cloud gaming: https://www.3dcenter.org/news/news-des-1-september-2025

Their 1st source is quoting @adroc_thurston

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Also, RGT getting tipped as well:
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which leads to....
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fastandfurious6 · Wednesday at 4:50 PM

TBH it's also chatgpt5 effect. It's really efficient, I just wrote

"find the latest leaks about zen 6 on vbulletin hardware forums including anandtech chiphell techpowerup toms hardware etc"

it immediately pushed out adhoc thurston and keplerL2 direct source links and accurate info......

scary! try it yourself

Jan Olšan · Wednesday at 5:05 PM

marees said:
What is Medusa Baby / Medusa BB

Earlier, MLID reported "Bumblebee" as a lowend Medusa-series APU. Perhaps that?

No idea if this newly presented roadmap is a legit confirmation or if it is actually just recap of that MLID video...

adroc_thurston · Wednesday at 5:06 PM

Jan Olšan said:
Earlier, MLID reported "Bumblebee" as a lowend Medusa-series APU. Perhaps that?

It is that and it is a KRK2 replacement

yottabit · Wednesday at 5:11 PM

Saylick said:
Same with 3DCenter now reporting at AT0 is intended for cloud gaming: https://www.3dcenter.org/news/news-des-1-september-2025

Their 1st source is quoting @adroc_thurston

View attachment 129614

Also, RGT getting tipped as well:
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which leads to....
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How long until Forbes this time?

Saylick · Wednesday at 5:19 PM

fastandfurious6 said:
TBH it's also chatgpt5 effect. It's really efficient, I just wrote

"find the latest leaks about zen 6 on vbulletin hardware forums including anandtech chiphell techpowerup toms hardware etc"

it immediately pushed out adhoc thurston and keplerL2 direct source links and accurate info......

scary! try it yourself

I hope GPT and other LLM can eventually put the likes of wtftech and RGT out of business. As I said before, they are basically glorified news aggregators at this point, which is ripe for disruption if all they do is just scour the internet for rumors just to make clickbait articles/videos.

adroc_thurston · Wednesday at 5:20 PM

Saylick said:
I hope GPT and other LLM can eventually put the likes of wtftech and RGT out of business. As I said before, they are basically glorified news aggregators at this point, which is ripe for disruption if all they do is just scour the internet for rumors just to make clickbait articles/videos.

RSS feeds are as old as the world itself.
People just like watching people on YT ramble for hours.

marees · Wednesday at 5:36 PM

Jan Olšan said:
Earlier, MLID reported "Bumblebee" as a lowend Medusa-series APU. Perhaps that?

No idea if this newly presented roadmap is a legit confirmation or if it is actually just recap of that MLID video...

Cool. Tweaktown gives the below specs for bumblebee aka MDS-3

Bumblebee (MDS-3): FP10 and/or FP8 socket: TSMC N3C monolithic
2-core Zen 6 + 2-core Zen 6c + 2-core Zen 6 LP = 6 total cores (2+2+2)
2-4 CU RDNA 4 or 3.5 (+) iGPU (both architectures are referenced as possibilities)
128-bit LPDDR5X memory controller
"MDS-3" is specifically listed as targeting the "budget laptop" market

There is also a new one "Medusa point little" aka MDS-2 — maybe this is scrapped now ? (Edit: maybe 2028?)

Medusa Point Little (MDS-2): FP10 socket, TSMC N3P monolithic
2 or 4-core Zen 6 + 4-core Zen 6c = 8-10 cores total (2 or 4+4+2) (AMD has not yet decided if they want to go with 2 or 4 "full" Zen 6 cores)
4 CU RDNA 4 or 3.5 (+) iGPU (both architectures are referenced as possibilities, and there are different CU counts referenced between documents of different variants)
128-bit LPDDR5X memory controller
"MDS-2" is specifically listed as targeting "AI 5" and "AI 3" class products

MDS-1 == normal strix point (with optional CPU CCD)

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/1075...-ccd-with-tsmc-3nm-n3p-iod-in-2026/index.html

Edit: from April (not the 1st)

AMD: Details Leak About Its Next-Gen Zen 6 Processor Family Including Medusa APUs, Olympic Ridge, and More

The upcoming APUs are expected to be released by the second half of 2026, with some even launching in 2027.

in.ign.com

marees · Wednesday at 5:54 PM

Jan Olšan said:
Earlier, MLID reported "Bumblebee" as a lowend Medusa-series APU. Perhaps that?

No idea if this newly presented roadmap is a legit confirmation or if it is actually just recap of that MLID video...

From Mar-29th
Timestamped video below

AMD's next-gen Zen 6 desktop CPU leak: over 6GHz clock speeds with TSMC N2X process node

AMD's next-generation Zen 6 aims for 10%+ IPC uplift, fabbed on TSMC N3 and N2 process nodes, Olympic Ridge + Gator Range= high-end desktop CPUs.

www.tweaktown.com

Edit: he says that MDS-3 Bumblebee is N3C (2027 release) @Kepler_L2

marees · Wednesday at 6:12 PM

So we have following zen6 APUs ?

Desktop to laptop APU
strix halo socket
1. MDSH (medusa halo)
Strix point socket
1. MDSP (medusa premium)
2. MDS1 + 12 CPU CCD
3. MDS1 (medusa point)
4. MDS2
5. MDS3 (bumblebee)
Mendocino replacement ??

fastandfurious6 · Wednesday at 6:17 PM

adroc_thurston said:
bumblebee = KRK2 replacement

= phoenix++++

AMD is learning from the best 😎 but doing it on reverse only on low-end lol

adroc_thurston · Wednesday at 6:20 PM

marees said:
So we have following zen6 APUs ?

Desktop to laptop APU

strix halo socket

MDSH (medusa halo)

Strix point socket

MDSP (medusa premium)

MDS1 + 12 CPU CCD

MDS1 (medusa point)

MDS2

MDS3 (bumblebee)

Mendocino replacement ??

yes but #4 is no-no.
Chromebooks are dead.

fastandfurious6 · Wednesday at 6:22 PM

marees said:
Strix point socket

MDSP (medusa premium)

MDS1 + 12 CPU CCD

MDS1 (medusa point)

MDS2

MDS3 (bumblebee)

all these are useless 😭 I'm 100% sure amd is losing money with all these choices

market only needs:
- medusa range (top end, x3D etc)
- medusa halo
- medusa baby
- phoenix++++

marees · Wednesday at 6:24 PM

So bumblebee MDS-3 is also a transformer, hmmm 🤔 @Kepler_L2

TRANSFORMERS: BATTLEGROUNDS - Kids Videogame

Battle through the tangled multiverse on an open-ended adventure to Cybertron in TRANSFORMERS: BATTLEGROUNDS!

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Josh128 · Wednesday at 6:34 PM

marees said:
So bumblebee MDS-3 is also a transformer, hmmm 🤔 @Kepler_L2

TRANSFORMERS: BATTLEGROUNDS - Kids Videogame

Battle through the tangled multiverse on an open-ended adventure to Cybertron in TRANSFORMERS: BATTLEGROUNDS!

outrightgames.com

He absolutely is.

Also, its a bit interesting that Zen 6 mobile isnt coming until 2027. Zen 5's first appearance was in mobile. I cant wait to see what Gator Rande is.

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