Question Zen 6 Speculation Thread

[igor_kavinski]

Now think of bad press they will get if they market 9950X3DD as gaming part

Simple. They don't market it as anything. Let the CPU sell on the basis of its virtues.

I can't remember the last time I saw a cool ad or even an exciting review for Threadripper yet AMD is still making these chips.

 

[Josh128]

Just as I said before, Zen 6 will be to Zen 5, what Zen 4 was to Zen 3. MT will get the biggest boost, ST will get smaller boost, IPC increase will be very similar to Zen 4s claimed 13% (reality ~10%). Zen 4 was also an evolution. Mark it.

 

[poke01]

Just as I said before, Zen 6 will be to Zen 5, what Zen 4 was to Zen 3. MT will get the biggest boost, ST will get smaller boost, IPC increase will be very similar to Zen 4s claimed 13% (reality ~10%). Zen 4 was also an evolution. Mark it.

I think both will excel my and st

 

[poke01]

Zen6 memory controller changes have nothing to do with DDR6/LPDDR6, they are changing the physical design/topology to allow for higher speeds, that's all (though I'm pretty sure you'll need a new motherboard to actually take advantage of those changes).

Do higher memory speeds even matter if you have zen6 x3D?

 

[Kepler_L2]

Do higher memory speeds even matter if you have zen6 x3D?

If they fixed the fabric bottleneck yes.

 

[poke01]

If they fixed the fabric bottleneck yes.

Well I hope they do otherwise offering higher speeds will be moot for some customers

 

[Makaveli]

Zen6 memory controller changes have nothing to do with DDR6/LPDDR6, they are changing the physical design/topology to allow for higher speeds, that's all (though I'm pretty sure you'll need a new motherboard to actually take advantage of those changes).

So there will be a refresh of 800 series motherboards to take advantage of increased memory speeds you think?

 

[Darkmont]

If there are two memory controllers in the consumer Zen 6 IOD, then that's most likely for DDR5 and DDR6.

Could SERIOUSLY point to DDR6 launching for consumer in H2 2026!

Intel has 2 MCs for their DDR5 bus on ADL/RPL/MTL/ARL. It has no bearing on a Combo-PHY existing. If DDR6 was launching in late 2026, we would've had public press releases of ES DDR6 ICs years ago.

 

[Darkmont]

Zen6 memory controller changes have nothing to do with DDR6/LPDDR6, they are changing the physical design/topology to allow for higher speeds, that's all (though I'm pretty sure you'll need a new motherboard to actually take advantage of those changes).

Allegedly™ the X870E Apex and some other boards launched this year are compatible with the new AM5 board revision.

 

[511]

Yeah there is no DDR6 mentioned anywhere we can forget it for desktop for few years but on mobile arm vendors are going to be the first to launch it.

 

[Bigos]

LPDDR6 has nothing to do with DDR6...

 

[dacostafilipe]

Just as I said before, Zen 6 will be to Zen 5, what Zen 4 was to Zen 3. MT will get the biggest boost, ST will get smaller boost, IPC increase will be very similar to Zen 4s claimed 13% (reality ~10%). Zen 4 was also an evolution. Mark it.

Well, if the connection between IOD and CCD is changed from serdes to fan-out, it could on its own bring decent performance improvements, specially in terms of latency and power redistribution.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

b) no one actually uses iGPUs.

~650 million console gamers worldwide say hi. Plus a couple billion gamers on mobile. Plus a non-zero amount of people playing on the Steam Deck, ROG Ally, Legion Go and others. A number that is bound to increase thanks to Microsoft's push.

 

[yottabit]

Am I the only one that reads MRDIMM in my head as “Mister DIMM” ?

 

[BigIronOnHis]

Am I the only one that reads MRDIMM in my head as “Mister DIMM” ?

 

[igor_kavinski]

MARDIM is easier to say.

 

[Schmide]

Am I the only one that reads MRDIMM in my head as “Mister DIMM” ?

Being from Maryland like the Ocean City restaurant M. R. Ducks, we pronounce it Emm Are DIMMs (aka them are dimms in HoN speak)

 

[Josh128]

Mr. DIMM is the correct answer.

On that note, the mem controller(s) rumor likely has to do with CUDIMM or MRDIMM support.

 

[Darkmont]

Just so we get it clear, Raphael and Granite Ridge ALREADY HAVE 2 memory controllers. One per channel, handling two sub-channels, just like Intel. Why this is news is crazy to me. Even RTG is covering it like it's a novel feature.

 

[Det0x]

Well thats a clickbait if ive ever seen one

 

[Joe NYC]

Well thats a clickbait if ive ever seen one
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Timeline mention there was interesting. That server (Venice) part could arrive by late 2025 or early 2026.

If AMD laps Clearwater Forrest with Venice, that will be a big LOL and RIP.

 

[Saylick]

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Just so we get it clear, Raphael and Granite Ridge ALREADY HAVE 2 memory controllers. One per channel, handling two sub-channels, just like Intel. Why this is news is crazy to me. Even RTG is covering it like it's a novel feature.

It just shows you that the tech rumor mill doesn’t actually understand tech. Their main motivation is to be first to the press and generate impressions, not to be accurate and uphold high journalistic integrity by doing due diligence before publishing.

 

[poke01]

whats more interesting is desktop zen6 is N2X, of course like he said it could only be for the 10950X but still.

 

[Timorous]

whats more interesting is desktop zen6 is N2X, of course like he said it could only be for the 10950X but still.

11xxx if AMD follows the naming convention or every numbered zen release being an odd number.

2xxx series was zen+ so was not a numbered zen release.

 

[511]

whats more interesting is desktop zen6 is N2X, of course like he said it could only be for the 10950X but still.

He is just spewing nonsense how can AMD make N2X when it is not in HVM from TSMC same for N2P the silicon they are receiving is Vanilla N2 rn it just happens that N2/N2P share the PDK with everything same N2P is H2 26 HVM how can we get products before HVM lol