Question Zen 6 Speculation Thread

[511]

On SPEC anyone remember when Zenver3 was slower than Zenver5 🤣🤣

 

[Josh128]

On SPEC anyone remember when Zenver3 was slower than Zenver5 🤣🤣

Shoot, I remember when Zenver1 was slower than Zenver3!

Re: SPECintRate 2017 as being a good benchmark for the average users desktop PC, what an ridiculous notion. Lets see, I can download and run 5 versions of Cinebench, who knows how many versions of Geekbench, Blender, VRay, and multiple other benchmarks before I can even get a working executable of sir2017, not to mention I have to pay for it. Even ChipsNCheese says its challenging to run and literallly takes hours to run after you've compiled it, and results vary depending on how you compile it, lol.

 

[Nothingness]

Even ChipsNCheese says its challenging to run and literallly takes hours to run after you've compiled it, and results vary depending on how you compile it, lol.

Yeah SPEC is definitely not only a CPU benchmark: it's both a compiler and CPU benchmark (and to a lesser extent, an OS/lib benchmark).

The CPU design companies I know run SPECrate with 1 CPU; it's much faster than SPECspeed (and less prone to compiler tricks to autoparellize). And even beyond that, CPU companies tend to stick to the same compiler and same set of flags for long: all they're interested in is how much faster their new uarch is compared to the previous ones, and you can only do that for binaries that don't change for years.

SPEC is definitely a benchmark for pros, not for the average user.

 

[511]

SPEC is definitely a benchmark for pros, not for the average user.

i thought we all were pros on the forum certainly average user won't come on the forum and discuss 300 pages on one topic

 

[Abwx]

Shoot, I remember when Zenver1 was slower than Zenver3!

Re: SPECintRate 2017 as being a good benchmark for the average users desktop PC, what an ridiculous notion. Lets see, I can download and run 5 versions of Cinebench, who knows how many versions of Geekbench, Blender, VRay, and multiple other benchmarks before I can even get a working executable of sir2017, not to mention I have to pay for it. Even ChipsNCheese says its challenging to run and literallly takes hours to run after you've compiled it, and results vary depending on how you compile it, lol.

Cinebench is a FP bench, there s nothing further from usual consumers apps than CB, 7Zip is a much better metric since it s INT.

Beside CB R2X and 2024 are the only rendering tests where Intel has a ST advantage, in Blender, Corona, Povray and VRay AMD has better IPC be it ST or MT, so even for FP it s a mediocre bench to compare AMD to Intel since it s at odd with all other such tests.

 

[Markfw]

Cinebench is a FP bench, there s nothing further from usual consumers apps than CB, 7Zip is a much better metric since it s INT.

Beside CB R2X and 2024 are the only rendering tests where Intel has a ST advantage, in Blender, Corona, Povray and VRay AMD has better IPC be it ST or MT, so even for FP it s a mediocre bench to compare AMD to Intel since it s at odd with all other such tests.

I just usage phoronix tests, sometimes chips-and-cheese. They usage a wide variety of tests and are fair, and good summaries.

 

[Nothingness]

i thought we all were pros on the forum certainly average user won't come on the forum and discuss 300 pages on one topic

I didn't want to dismiss people on that forum, but I doubt anyone here is ready to shell $1000 and spend days fine tuning a benchmark

As all rules, there is at least one exception I know of here.