Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

[DisEnchantment]

Speculate at will

 

[OneEng2]

Last time I looked into it a lot of AIO's were worse than good air coolers.

... and a whole lot bigger PITA!

 

[OneEng2]

... still, I am hearing in the server we will be looking at sockets with 1KW power ratings with Zen 6 and beyond. The world has become a crazy place indeed.

 

[StefanR5R]

Steve and Tim are already saying 10% more performance for 10% more money is bad. So yes indeed everyone, the measly $30 price hike is the lead talkingpoint.

If reviewers want to relate performance to MSRP, and do so specifically for application scenarios in which the hardware-side of the performance is mostly determined by the combo of GPU & RAM & CPU, then they should put the performance delta into relation with the [GPU MSRP & RAM MSRP & CPU MSRP] delta.

 

[Josh128]

Funky X3D review leak! Looks like average core clock during gaming is 5.225 GHz at stock. Very odd setup and only compared to 9700X, not 7800X3D.

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-review-leaks-out-showing-strong-1-low-fps-improvement

 

[PJVol]

+5-10% to 7800x3d at 1080p, according to one leaker, whose name shall not be mentioned here.

 

[tsamolotoff]

Funky X3D review leak!

Why even bother with this, it's just GPU tests, but I guess those clicks and views must flow for WhyCry et al.

 

[deasd]

5.5Ghz OC and 6600MT/s for 9800X3D

https://twitter.com/x/status/1853814009432281167

 

[9949asd]

Funky X3D review leak! Looks like average core clock during gaming is 5.225 GHz at stock. Very odd setup and only compared to 9700X, not 7800X3D.

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-review-leaks-out-showing-strong-1-low-fps-improvement

That’s actually real life average gamer setup, 2k with 4070(ti).

 

[Josh128]

5.5Ghz OC and 6600MT/s for 9800X3D

https://twitter.com/x/status/1853814009432281167

Looks like 5.4GHz OC.

 

[deasd]

Looks like 5.4GHz OC.

There's another screenshot from that chiphell.com link, but yeah not sure if these two screenshots were from same machine.

It shows 1.248v @ 5490Mhz.




another gaming screenshot, also from that link:

 

[Josh128]

There's another screenshot from that chiphell.com link, but yeah not sure if these two screenshots were from same machine.

It shows 1.248v @ 5490Mhz.

View attachment 111019


another gaming screenshot, also from that link:

View attachment 111020

Yeah the HWinfo shows multiplier of 55x for a 99.8MHz BCLK, so that is def 5.49 GHz OC. Butt the 5.145 game shots are probably a 54x multipler with a 100.3 MHz BCLK or something.

 

[9949asd]

+5-10% to 7800x3d at 1080p, according to one leaker, whose name shall not be mentioned here.

The MSI power point leaked 2weeks ago, for sure will be 5-10%.

 

[Makaveli]

Last time I looked into it a lot of AIO's were worse than good air coolers.

Nah been running a 360mm AIO on AM4 since 2019 zero issues. Will finally have to replace it when I go AM5 but still going with a newer 360

I do agree air cooling is fine with X3D chips.

 

[MS_AT]

Btw, does anyone know, why, despite AMD listing support DDR5-5600 supported on Strix-Point, there were no models to date announced with socketed DRAM? I mean everything from MiniPCs to gaming laptops? I would understand the decision to stick to soldered only RAM for models depending on iGPU, but if dGPU is present why force soldered DRAM?

 

[SteinFG]

DDR5 and LPDDR5 are different memory standards, AMD clearly prioritized LPDDR5 support. DDR5 is coming later if I had to guess.

 

[moinmoin]

DDR5 and LPDDR5 are different memory standards, AMD clearly prioritized LPDDR5 support. DDR5 is coming later if I had to guess.

That would be up to the OEMs, not AMD, wouldn't it?

 

[poke01]

That would be up to the OEMs, not AMD, wouldn't it?

Unless AMD put restrictions or a limit until a certain time. The fact no one released a DDR5 is telling.

My guess is Framework might be the company to use DDR5 next year

 

[maddogmcgee]

Anyone know when the review embargo is supposed to lift? I thought it was the 6th with release on the 7th. Its almost the 7th here already.

 

[sl0519]

Anyone know when the review embargo is supposed to lift? I thought it was the 6th with release on the 7th. Its almost the 7th here already.

11/6, 9am CST
so about 2.5 hrs from now

 

[sl0519]

Still two hours to go but here's one review to relieve some boredom for yall while waiting~

锐龙7 9800X3D首测：第二代3D V-Cache技术 Zen5架构加持问鼎游戏至尊处理器 _ 游民星空 GamerSky.com

作为Zen5架构的首款X3D系列处理器，全新的锐龙7 9800X3D又会给我们带来怎样的惊喜？它与锐龙7 7800X3D和酷睿Ultra 9 285K及i9-14900K相比又有多大的性能提升？

www.gamersky.com

edit: can someone do the math and calculate the avgs out?
edit 2: it's 10% on avg faster than 78x3d

 

[techjunkie123]

Still two hours to go but here's one review to relieve some boredom for yall while waiting~



edit: can someone do the math and calculate the avgs out?

Eyeballing it id say about 5-10% on average. But the lead should grow when the 5090 launches.

 

[sl0519]

Eyeballing it id say about 5-10% on average. But the lead should grow when the 5090 launches.

I calculated it it's 10% faster (to 78x3d). Right around where most ppl expect it to be.

 

[maddogmcgee]

10 percent (mostly due to higher freq I guess ) is much higher than a lot of people were expecting a few weeks ago. Will be interesting to see the gain from my 5800x3d but I think I am sold.

 

[In2Photos]

Btw, does anyone know, why, despite AMD listing support DDR5-5600 supported on Strix-Point, there were no models to date announced with socketed DRAM? I mean everything from MiniPCs to gaming laptops? I would understand the decision to stick to soldered only RAM for models depending on iGPU, but if dGPU is present why force soldered DRAM?

That's easy, soldered RAM means you will need to replace the item rather than upgrade. OEMs/SIs don't get revenue when you upgrade.

 

[MS_AT]

That's easy, soldered RAM means you will need to replace the item rather than upgrade. OEMs/SIs don't get revenue when you upgrade.

It also means you turn off some of your potential clients but maybe in the end it's a successful strategy for them.