Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

[DisEnchantment]

Speculate at will

 

[Josh128]

10 percent (mostly due to higher freq I guess ) is much higher than a lot of people were expecting a few weeks ago. Will be interesting to see the gain from my 5800x3d but I think I am sold.

9800X3D is only 4% higher frequency than 7800X3D. The remaining 6% would have to be from architecture.

 

[Abwx]

9800X3D review at Computerbase.de :

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D vs. 7800X3D, 5800X3D & Core Ultra im Test

Der AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D ist der erwartete neue Spiele-König. Die Gaming-CPU im Vergleich zu 7800X3D, 5800X3D und Intel Core Ultra im Test.

www.computerbase.de

 

[Josh128]

Maybe not....according to the AIDA64 test of the 9800X3D in this review, the CPU hits 5.425 GHz. I didnt see where they OC'ed it. Maybe the out of the box Fmax is 5.425 despite the 5.2 official labeling??

锐龙7 9800X3D首测：第二代3D V-Cache技术 Zen5架构加持问鼎游戏至尊处理器 _ 游民星空 GamerSky.com

作为Zen5架构的首款X3D系列处理器，全新的锐龙7 9800X3D又会给我们带来怎样的惊喜？它与锐龙7 7800X3D和酷睿Ultra 9 285K及i9-14900K相比又有多大的性能提升？

www.gamersky.com

 

[inf64]

9800X3D review at Computerbase.de :

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D vs. 7800X3D, 5800X3D & Core Ultra im Test

Der AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D ist der erwartete neue Spiele-König. Die Gaming-CPU im Vergleich zu 7800X3D, 5800X3D und Intel Core Ultra im Test.

www.computerbase.de

Crazy performance versus 9950X and 9700X - over 30% faster in games.

 

[sl0519]

Embargo was an hr earlier than I expected. Apparently any improvements is very welcome LOL @HardwareUnboxed. Can we now officially claim Zen 5%*2?

 

[Abwx]

Crazy performance versus 9950X and 9700X - over 30% faster in games.

Most important is 14% over the 7800X3D since that s the only real competitor.

 

[In2Photos]

It also means you turn off some of your potential clients but maybe in the end it's a successful strategy for them.

Oh yeah, absolutely it does. The last time I did some research for a a laptop there were very few that were upgradeable. It was for a work colleague and I had to get one that day so I had to settle for LPDDR5 as that was the only one in stock. I went with 32GB on a relatively cheaper laptop to be safe.

 

[In2Photos]

Well review titles seem to indicate the 9800X3D is pretty darn good.

https://youtu.be/E-dvUE3wAiQ?si=GrKyOBDOFjwRYiBm

https://youtu.be/VfXzkBWvHT0?si=jJPm-mG81h5jNG1R

https://youtu.be/s-lFgbzU3LY?si=ds0El0kRPGUSuVkX

https://youtu.be/tDbutc4iAAI?si=3sxjzVk4fnvE02PV

 

[igor_kavinski]

Looks like the launch of the decade. So many reviews! https://videocardz.com/189651/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-review-roundup

Even CnC got one on launch day!

AMD’s 9800X3D: 2nd Generation V-Cache

Following the first generation of V-Cache found in the Zen 3 and Zen 4 X3D SKUs, AMD is now following up with the second generation of V-Cache which is a major change for AMD in terms of packaging.…

old.chipsandcheese.com

 

[Markfw]

Looks like the launch of the decade. So many reviews! https://videocardz.com/189651/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-review-roundup

Even CnC got one on launch day!

AMD’s 9800X3D: 2nd Generation V-Cache

Following the first generation of V-Cache found in the Zen 3 and Zen 4 X3D SKUs, AMD is now following up with the second generation of V-Cache which is a major change for AMD in terms of packaging.…

old.chipsandcheese.com

and even tomshardware.com ! (crummy review IMO in presentation)

chips and cheese has no benchmarks ! Not good

 

[DAPUNISHER]

God damn, it so badass it made Aussie Steve put down the haterade. "It makes the 285K look like an entry level gaming CPU" Still using old windows on arrow; Historic walk off KTFO numbers kids. 👀

 

[MrTeal]

TPU's results seem a little low comparing to other outlets. Certain games like Hogwarts Legacy have no CPU dependance (and higher framerates) whereas other places show the L3 making a big difference. Interesting how the scene can change the outcome of a review.

 

[PJVol]

Didn't expect it to beat intel in starfield, gj !

 

[MS_AT]

Looks like the launch of the decade. So many reviews! https://videocardz.com/189651/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-review-roundup

Even CnC got one on launch day!

AMD’s 9800X3D: 2nd Generation V-Cache

Following the first generation of V-Cache found in the Zen 3 and Zen 4 X3D SKUs, AMD is now following up with the second generation of V-Cache which is a major change for AMD in terms of packaging.…

old.chipsandcheese.com

GCC improvement is nice despite lower clocks. I wonder how good they will be able to bin 9950x3d...

 

[Racan]

If Zen 6X3D won’t be compatible with AM5 I’m upgrading from my 7800X3D.

 

[exquisitechar]

Anyone else see this? The 9800X3D actually does extremely well compared to the 9950X considering its large clock speed disadvantage.
https://chipsandcheese.com/p/amds-9800x3d-2nd-generation-v-cache

Tempted to get a 9950X3D, looks like it’s going to be better than I expected.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Phoronix tested with a sweet RAM kit: F5-6000J2836G16G <<< CL28 !!!

 

[DAPUNISHER]

TPU's results seem a little low comparing to other outlets.

I knew they would be. Heavy Intel bias on that site and forums.

 

[In2Photos]

Looks like the 9800X3D runs cooler (which we thought it would with the v-cache on the bottom now) during gaming than the 7800X3D, despite higher clocks and power consumption.

Edit: the 9800X3D was PEGGED at 5.225GHz during this test. It never fluctuated.

 

[inf64]

Embargo was an hr earlier than I expected. Apparently any improvements is very welcome LOL @HardwareUnboxed. Can we now officially claim Zen 5%*2?

Insane difference versus 285K. Intel will be in the rearview mirror for a VERY long time. 35% faster is like 2 generations of upgrades on intel side, including a huge Vcache type solution.

Edit: DAPUNISHER beat me to it! I'm very late to the party

 

[igor_kavinski]

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Beautiful. Just beautiful!

 

[MrTeal]

It's also nice to see that you get basically all the performance of the 9800X3D with a cheap set of 6000CL30. US$85 for a 32GB kit is a lot more palatable than dropping ~$150 on some 7800 or more on CUDIMM.

 

[branch_suggestion]

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Linux Performance: Zen 5 With 3D V-Cache Review - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

Turns out you can reach ~30% over Z4 with some help.
Core is starving for bandwidth, yet another good sign for Strix Halo.

 

[TESKATLIPOKA]

Can't say I am happy with the power draw. 65W would have been nicer.

 

[In2Photos]

So do these results really open up the possibility of v-cache on both CCDs of the 9950X3D?