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Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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gdansk said:
Personally, I don't think GB6 is the correct benchmark from which to extrapolate X3D performance.
Zen 5 in general showed improvements there but not gaming. And X3D are for gaming.
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So don’t extrapolate it? The numbers are what they are. You need to layer on your own temperaments, considerations, logic. Doesn’t make GB6 output invalid. It’s the interpretation and application that matters.
 
arcky said:
So don’t extrapolate it? The numbers are what they are. You need to layer on your own temperaments, considerations, logic. Doesn’t make GB6 output invalid. It’s the interpretation and application that matters.
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Yes, exactly. I am cautioning against such extrapolation. Don't expect 9800X3D to be that much better in what it is actually built to do.
 
CouncilorIrissa said:
eh it's not your fault, he really should do better than flip-flopping between compilers.
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I'll bet he has multiple people doing benchmarks including running SPEC for him for his reviews, and they are all making their own choices. It doesn't make sense that he'd be running it himself and switching back and forth. He needs to get his helpers on the same page.
 
Doug S said:
I'll bet he has multiple people doing benchmarks including running SPEC for him for his reviews, and they are all making their own choices. It doesn't make sense that he'd be running it himself and switching back and forth. He needs to get his helpers on the same page.
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Power measurements don't always seem to be consistent either.
 
Hitman928 said:
Zen 4 and 5 support the DDR5-5600 JEDEC standard though. . .
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DDR5-5600 would be understandable, but 4800 - is really not. You can't even save any measurable amount of money between them.

BTW, good news with 9800x3d is official, out of the box support for DDR5-6000, which also shows the CPU in good light.

Probably quite conservative 5.2 GHz clock speed, (combined with official support for DDR-6000) IMO make 9800x3d a good candidate for the Gaming PC OEMs (such as Alienware) to finally switch to AMD.
 
Joe NYC said:
DDR5-5600 would be understandable, but 4800 - is really not. You can't even save any measurable amount of money between them.

BTW, good news with 9800x3d is official, out of the box support for DDR5-6000, which also shows the CPU in good light.

Probably quite conservative 5.2 GHz clock speed, (combined with official support for DDR-6000) IMO make 9800x3d a good candidate for the Gaming PC OEMs (such as Alienware) to finally switch to AMD.
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Alienware? As in owned by Dell Alienware? I doubt that.
 
Today I upgraded from my 5900X w/ 2x8GB 3733 CL17 RAM to 9900X w/2x16GB 6000 CL30 RAM and just using Windows is night and day difference. Edge opens and loads pages instantaneously, MUCH faster than my 5900X system. Snappiness of this thing is a joy to behold. Gained 30% on the Dawntrail bench, didnt even re-install Windows, it just booted right back up with zero issues so I just rolled with it, lol. Running everything stock + EXPO profile just as I did with the 5900X. I was about to pull the trigger on a 9700X but happened upon an INCREDIBLE deal on this 9900X+ X670-E Tomahawk combo, couldnt pass it up. Quite happy with it so far.

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1848096683034628344
I tried out GIGABYTE X3D Turbo Mode very briefly and tested it with Sandra and Forza (9700X, D5-6000 16Gx2) ・SMT was turned off ・Memory bandwidth also became slightly thicker (about 55GB/s → about 61GB/s) ・No change in PPT (88W with CB R23) ・CPU simulation and rendering FPS have increased significantly ・As a result, the average frame rate increased by about 5% (Will it increase even more with X3D?)
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Still wondering what this setting actually does.. I can see higher gaming performance with disabling CCD1/SMT, but higher memory bandwidth ?!
Normally the only way this happen is with faster FCLK 🤔
 
CouncilorIrissa said:
Another 5.3 1t 9800X3D GB6 run.
It does look like 9800X3D might end up having 5.3 1t boost.

ASUS System Product Name - Geekbench

Benchmark results for an ASUS System Product Name with an AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor.
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Certainly looks that way-- I wonder if its just going to officially list max boost clock at 5.2 and opportunistically boost to 5.3 if silicon allows (like most Zen 4 SKUs), or if they will list it at 5.3? Surely the packaging is complete and boxes are starting to hit the channel any day now.
 
Det0x said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1848096683034628344

Still wondering what this setting actually does.. I can see higher gaming performance with disabling CCD1/SMT, but higher memory bandwidth ?!
Normally the only way this happen is with faster FCLK 🤔
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well on my 9950X this option disables SMT and CCD1 all together 🧐

scared when opened task manager and only eight threads were there 😅

dont know what other evil things it does 🤣
 
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