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MarkPost

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CouncilorIrissa said:
The dual-CCD SKUs should behave exactly the same as single-CCD ones due to X3D driver straight up disabling the other CCD.
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The way a game is run (in Windows) on dual CCD SKUs (more specifically on Dual CCD X3Ds and 99xxX) depends at the end if the game is included or not in the named KGL list. This is a file called "KnownGameList.bin" that can be found at this route: "<user_account>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\GameDVR"

So if a game is included in this file, it will run in first CCD only (except those few cases where the game uses almost the entire CCD1, in which case it will use the necessary aditional threads from the second CCD).

On the contrary, if the game its not in this file , it will spam between both CCDs (specially if it uses a good CPU %).

This file is automatically updated each time Game Bar is updated to a new version.
 
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Timmah! said:
The Cinema thing actually interests me, or better said, i wonder if same speed-up applies to 3dsmax. By "viewport" you mean more performance/FPS when zooming/camera panning around the modeling space, not refering to rendering speed, right?
Regarding me being wrong, i see it more as difference in what one considers as "significant". You say its easily 10-20 percent faster, i say thats for the most part not perceivable speed-up (10 percent definitely, 20 percent is borderline pushing it), so it does not justify dropping 700 EUROs on the new CPU - to me.

Like, for example, i am using 4090 for work with octane render, and the only upgrade path for me is 5090 (assuming its again about 2x as fast as 4090 for the particular task, like 4090 was compared to 3090 and 3090 compared to 2080Ti). Hypothetical 5080, thats about 10 percent faster than 4090, does nothing for me, if Nvidia wont sell 5090 at all and 5080 gonna be the new top card, i am not paying 1200 for it, fooling myself 10 percent of additional performance is "significant".
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I believe quite a few people would disagree that 20% faster isn't significant. Gamers certainly would as would anyone rendering.
 
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CouncilorIrissa said:
I don't have one, but from what I've read the second CCD would wake up as soon as you alt-tab out of the game.
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But if I have an encoding job running in the background that would either have to be stopped then or it would absolutely cripple my game on the first CCD.
 
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CakeMonster said:
But if I have an encoding job running in the background that would either have to be stopped then or it would absolutely cripple my game on the first CCD.
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For your use case you would just run both apps on the processor without sleeping the second CCD. You'd get some inter CCX latency on game threads that crossed over, but it would be far from "crippling" any modern game unless your encoding job took priority over the game and left no cores available. Unless you consider that still at least ~60fps or better would be crippling.

Now, if the encoder used all the cores/threads and left none for the game, you'd have issues, but if you prioritize the game affinity, that shouldnt happen.
 
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Josh128 said:
So new Chiphell leak about 9800X3D.

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"Frequency is quite high". lol OK. That should rule out anything under 5.4GHz, as the entire Zen 5 desktop lineup bottoms at 5.4GHz. Lower than the lowest is not "quite high". I still maintain that listed frequency iso with 9700X is impossible, so if this guy is for real, then its about a 98% chance 5.4GHz "max boost" will be on the box.

Why the leaker is suggesting to wait for 9950X3D due to 9800X3D pricing is beyond my imagination though. We've seen the MSI leaks showing less fps for the 9950X3D than the 9800X3D-- why they suggest one wait for that because 9800X3D will be expensive when 9950X3D will obviously be even more expensive and slower in gaming??
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I think the poster meant "if you don't have urgent need, wait for 9950x3d".

BTW, it would be interesting if this one has the highest frequency (higher than 9950x)
 
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Mods, this is all in fun, remove if you need, but I saw this on 3DCenter_org's Xitter feed and it made me lol. It really hits home, I wish I'd thought of it.

**EDIT: I just noticed the reds and blues are wrong, lol.

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Josh128 said:
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This is future :p
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Timorous said:
Insert inappropriate rear view mirror joke here....
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I have a blast from the past that fits that pic:
coercitiv said:
So, to paraphrase Pat Gelsinger, AMD won't be in the rear view mirror, and they won't be in the windshield either: they'll be riding shotgun and giving Intel instruction on how to drive or else...
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