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Do you have an AMD press release stating current Turin processors are on N3E? Google AI is saying some of the Turin processors are on N3E (highest end chips) and others are on N4P. That's AI but I always thought all Turin processors would be on at least N3.AMD is using N3E for Turin.
Do you have an AMD press release stating current Turin processors are on N3E? Google AI is saying some of the Turin processors are on N3E (highest end chips) and others are on N4P. That's AI but I always thought all Turin processors would be on at least N3.
There was exactly 1 reference I could get from googling this:Do you have an AMD press release stating current Turin processors are on N3E? Google AI is saying some of the Turin processors are on N3E (highest end chips) and others are on N4P. That's AI but I always thought all Turin processors would be on at least N3.
It's as others have stated. Dense is on n3e and desktop and standard Turin on n4pThere was exactly 1 reference I could get from googling this:
According to AMD, the CCDs on this chip were fabbed on a 3nm process (undoubtedly TSMC’s), with AMD apparently looking to take advantage of the densest process available in order to maximize the number of CPU cores they can place on a single chip.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/2142...-processors-up-to-192-cores-coming-in-h2-2024
There is also Tom's, but not sure how reliable they are:
The Zen 5c models employ up to 12 3nm CCDs with 16 Zen 5c cores per chiplet paired with the same I/O die.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com...gen-zen-5-chips-with-up-to-192-cores-500w-tdp
The CCDs wont be on N3(E?), just the GPUIO die.A lot of companies are using N3E this year, it’s an okay node.
Anyway Zen5 on client isn’t finished yet. Strix halo will be on N3E and will have much better bandwidth.
The CCDs wont be on N3(E?), just the GPUIO die.
Then again you are well aware you are niche within a niche with your 8 zen4 CPUs and same goes for your avx512 use case. Its only marginally faster outside of that specific use case and few other, mostly server-like loads, taking less power and running cooler is bit debatable as well. Bottom line, your perspective is different, and yeah, absolutely, to each their own. Not being enamored with Zen5 does not mean one has to be hasting to get Intel, in my case i will simply hold on my 7950x most likely. 9950x3D might still sway me, though, if the rumors/leak about clock parity with vanilla chips are true.I have 8 Zen 4 desktops. It faster than those, takes less power and runs cooler, so in my opinion, even the desktop it is still a winner.
Each to his own. If you don't like it, buy a failed and degrading raptorlake.
You may be thinking of N3P...N3E is not yet available yet.
Building on the back of their current-generation N3E process, the optical shrink of this process technology, N3P, is now on track to enter mass production in the second half of 2024.
You are quite wrong on bolded part. There are quite a few workstation and productivity tasks where Zen5 is easily 10%-20% faster than Zen4. In some cases gains are very significant, like in Cinema4D viewport, where my new Ryzen 9950X scores significantly higher than Zen4 did (20%).Then again you are well aware you are niche within a niche with your 8 zen4 CPUs and same goes for your avx512 use case. Its only marginally faster outside of that specific use case and few other, mostly server-like loads, taking less power and running cooler is bit debatable as well. Bottom line, your perspective is different, and yeah, absolutely, to each their own. Not being enamored with Zen5 does not mean one has to be hasting to get Intel, in my case i will simply hold on my 7950x most likely. 9950x3D might still sway me, though, if the rumors/leak about clock parity with vanilla chips are true.
LOL. Yep. Never knew you even needed it until you had itThere will be a lot of moving targets. Yesterday, everyone absolutely needed Thin and Light with ability to watch 24 hours of Netflix non-stop.
When AMD releases Kraken, and it has similar efficiency, lower price, but slightly slower GPU, all these Netflix watchers will become gamers overnight..
N3E (as others have pointed out) is out; however, you are correct that I mis-spoke. Intel processors are on N3B ..... which is more dense than N3E btw, just more expensive with lower yields I believe. N3P is being released by the end of this year I have heard.N3E is not yet available yet. Only Apple has N3E coming on their M4 chip later this year. I think Zen 5 Turin is running standard N3 but later versions are supposed to be on N3E. I could be wrong but Apple is 1st in line to get the cutting edge silicon from TSMC.
This is what I had heard as well. Can anyone confirm that Turin dense is using N3E for the Zen 5c CCD's and not just the io die?AMD is using N3E for Turin.
