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Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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RnR_au said:
Are the Epyc 7005 series also using SP6?
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Milan and Rome use socket SP3, all of them. Genoa, all variants use SP5. SP6 does not come out until Zen 5 variants. That is if you are talking about sockets.

I have all but Milan-x but they also use SP3
 
Markfw said:
They are available now on ebay. Prices are not bad, since Zen 4 server chips are so good. I would recommend them over Milan-x.
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I'd love to but the motherboard costs kill my wallet. I'd like to just drop in an upgrade in my existing board.

Storytime: The $80 bet I placed on an eBay EPYC CPU :tearsofjoy:

The seller listed it for parts as "I don't have the equipment to test it, hence selling it for parts. No returns."

I looked at the pictures, CPU looked fine in pictures. So I placed an $80 bid and won. It was EPYC 7F72 (Rome)

It cost me around $200 or so when I received it in my country (cost+shipping+customs duty), still not bad. I looked at the CPU more closely and found, one of the SMDs on the back of the CPU is just popped off. like it burnt and removed itself from the CPU but still stuck to the CPU. I was like damnnn... Did I just buy a $200 coaster?

Talked to a few fellas in the Level1Techs discord server, and they told me that the CPU has a 90% chance of working. They don't need all the SMD caps/res on the back.

I was looking for used EPYC SP3 motherboards with PCIe Gen4 and ample PCIe x16 slots (was planning a multi-GPU rig out of this)

found Asrock Rack ROMED8-2T, a lovely board. Has everything I need. $690 on NewEgg/BestBuy. RIP. Even if I imported it, would've cost me more than $1k. EBay listings were from China and were even more expensive.

Found an authorized distributor in my country, and bought the board for $800 (cost + taxes). The $80 gamble has now turned into a ~$1k investment 🤣🤣

Bought a pair of 8GB RDIMMs just to test if it POSTs. To my fucking surprise, it just worked. all memory channels. everything. I just placed the CPU in the board, installed memory, and viola!! IT HAD A POST. Proceeded to order 64GB x 4 kit from EBay seller. And it's running great now.


TL;DR
Bought a burnt EPYC CPU for $80 in an eBay gamble, and it worked. The motherboard is expensive.
 
mostwanted002 said:
I'd love to but the motherboard costs kill my wallet. I'd like to just drop in an upgrade in my existing board.

Storytime: The $80 bet I placed on an eBay EPYC CPU :tearsofjoy:

The seller listed it for parts as "I don't have the equipment to test it, hence selling it for parts. No returns."

I looked at the pictures, CPU looked fine in pictures. So I placed an $80 bid and won. It was EPYC 7F72 (Rome)

It cost me around $200 or so when I received it in my country (cost+shipping+customs duty), still not bad. I looked at the CPU more closely and found, one of the SMDs on the back of the CPU is just popped off. like it burnt and removed itself from the CPU but still stuck to the CPU. I was like damnnn... Did I just buy a $200 coaster?

Talked to a few fellas in the Level1Techs discord server, and they told me that the CPU has a 90% chance of working. They don't need all the SMD caps/res on the back.

I was looking for used EPYC SP3 motherboards with PCIe Gen4 and ample PCIe x16 slots (was planning a multi-GPU rig out of this)

found Asrock Rack ROMED8-2T, a lovely board. Has everything I need. $690 on NewEgg/BestBuy. RIP. Even if I imported it, would've cost me more than $1k. EBay listings were from China and were even more expensive.

Found an authorized distributor in my country, and bought the board for $800 (cost + taxes). The $80 gamble has now turned into a ~$1k investment 🤣🤣

Bought a pair of 8GB RDIMMs just to test if it POSTs. To my fucking surprise, it just worked. all memory channels. everything. I just placed the CPU in the board, installed memory, and viola!! IT HAD A POST. Proceeded to order 64GB x 4 kit from EBay seller. And it's running great now.


TL;DR
Bought a burnt EPYC CPU for $80 in an eBay gamble, and it worked. The motherboard is expensive.
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well, this is a Zen 5 thread, so this is my last post. I got s 9554 for $2500, and the motherboard for $715. The memory was $75 for a 16 gig stick for as many as I wanted. Blows away Rome in every respect, especially avx-512 stuff. So looking forward this should be your target.

Back to Zen 5 !!!!
 
Markfw said:
Milan and Rome use socket SP3, all of them. Genoa, all variants use SP5. SP6 does not come out until Zen 5 variants. That is if you are talking about sockets.

I have all but Milan-x but they also use SP3
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IIRC, SP6 is for Siena - lower tier server chips with fewer memory channels.
 
Well, look what we have here 🙂
Same boost clock as the 370. Would be nice if it had an extra 100 MHz.

videocardz.com

AMD introduces new Ryzen AI 9 HX 375 "Strix Point" APU: NPU now up to 55 TOPS - VideoCardz.com

AMD launches HX 375 SKU with faster NPU unit A third Strix Point SKU focuses on AI performance. AMD has confirmed the existence of the Ryzen AI 9 HX 375 SKU, which aligns with previous speculation about its appearance in an upcoming HP laptop. The Ryzen AI 9 HX 375 is a new addition to […]
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jdubs03 said:
Well, look what we have here 🙂
Same boost clock as the 370. Would be nice if it had an extra 100 MHz.

videocardz.com

AMD introduces new Ryzen AI 9 HX 375 "Strix Point" APU: NPU now up to 55 TOPS - VideoCardz.com

AMD launches HX 375 SKU with faster NPU unit A third Strix Point SKU focuses on AI performance. AMD has confirmed the existence of the Ryzen AI 9 HX 375 SKU, which aligns with previous speculation about its appearance in an upcoming HP laptop. The Ryzen AI 9 HX 375 is a new addition to […]
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They probably only overclocked a bit the NPU because of HP's requests. Nothing more than that.
 
Seems like some reviewers are still waiting for samples
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Reviewers still waiting for AMD Ryzen 9000 samples - VideoCardz.com

Update: AMD has confirmed Ryzen 9000 launch delay. Check our story for full details. Ryzen 9000 samples: missing in action Less than a week for testing. AMD’s Ryzen 9 9950X processor, Source: Antony Leather/Forbes AMD is currently facing issues with distributing Ryzen 9000 series samples to...
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And i have a sneaking feeling there will be few 9950X for sale at launch
 
Some info from AMD, lot of slides, among others this one wich state configurable 256/512b datapath in Zen 5 :


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www.computerbase.de

AMD Zen 5 Update: Etwas mehr Theorie zur Architektur und noch keine Praxis

Noch einmal rückt AMD Zen 5 in den Fokus und verrät mehr zur Theorie. Praxis gibt es nach wie vor nicht, während der Marktstart naht.
www.computerbase.de www.computerbase.de
 
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Det0x said:
Seems like some reviewers are still waiting for samples
videocardz.com

Reviewers still waiting for AMD Ryzen 9000 samples - VideoCardz.com

Update: AMD has confirmed Ryzen 9000 launch delay. Check our story for full details. Ryzen 9000 samples: missing in action Less than a week for testing. AMD’s Ryzen 9 9950X processor, Source: Antony Leather/Forbes AMD is currently facing issues with distributing Ryzen 9000 series samples to...
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And i have a sneaking feeling there will be few 9950X for sale at launch
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Time to setup the bots/autorefreshers/stock notifs from Falcodrin
 
Abwx said:
Some info from AMD, lot of slides, among others this one wich state configurable 256/512b datapath in Zen 5C :


3-1080.770b0664.png


12-1080.d611528e.png



www.computerbase.de

AMD Zen 5 Update: Etwas mehr Theorie zur Architektur und noch keine Praxis

Noch einmal rückt AMD Zen 5 in den Fokus und verrät mehr zur Theorie. Praxis gibt es nach wie vor nicht, während der Marktstart naht.
www.computerbase.de www.computerbase.de
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AMD marketing is making lot's of typos, while L1/L2 BTB might just sound weird and be the actual value, then FP pipes is definitely wrong as Zen4 had 4 pipes so far according to AMD itself, unless they will now disable one pipe over the net😉
 
MS_AT said:
AMD marketing is making lot's of typos, while L1/L2 BTB might just sound weird and be the actual value, then FP pipes is definitely wrong as Zen4 had 4 pipes so far according to AMD itself, unless they will now disable one pipe over the net😉
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The L1/L2 BTB is indeed curious, as for the FP pipe methink that it s related to the 3/1 L/S ratio that limit the effective pipes utilisation to 3 ops/cycle, if the operands cant be loaded more pipes will have no effect for the thoughput.
 
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