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Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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gdansk said:
Not buying the reverse Osbourne idea.
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I mean the industry is buzzing about Z5 anyway.
If you have friends at Azure, you can ask.
branch_suggestion said:
Now you have me looking back at Conroe reviews.
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Yeah, Granite Ridge is every bit as crude as Conroe/Kentsfield, same recipe to a tee.
branch_suggestion said:
Not sure how the usual suspects will spin this as anything other than complete AMD domination.
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There's always some room to amp the copium dosage.
 
That Conroe-like performance should demonstrate itself at a random asian message board like any minute, provided there are just 3 months to the launch.

There was like a full prelauch review of Zen available IIRC.
 
branch_suggestion said:
Now you have me looking back at Conroe reviews.
Not sure how the usual suspects will spin this as anything other than complete AMD domination.
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You may be underestimating the Cope_Frame_X and other cultists. The contortions they twist themselves into in justifying the likes of 14700K over 7800x3d (on Twitter) leads me to believe there will be even more extreme contortions.

But I am afraid, that if Zen 5 is even half as good as our Tease_In_Chief says it is, there may be fatalities or losses of limbs (from lack of blood flow) as a result of these contortions.
 
adroc_thurston said:
There's a mismatch between expectations and what it actually is in general.
People expect another Zen3 and not the biggest-most-fundamental-change-since-Zen1.
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There may be fundamentals change but so far the only relevant leak we got, from MLID, point to 15% better average IPC as a upper limit, seems that Zen 5 is some kind of pipe cleaner for future iterations since Zen 6 is supposed to bring another such uplift.
 
Abwx said:
There may be fundamentals change but so far the only relevant leak we got, from MLID, point to 15% better average IPC as a upper limit, seems that Zen 5 is some kind of pipe cleaner for future iterations since Zen 6 is supposed to bring another such uplift.
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I wish people would stop listening to that clown. I'd sooner trust @adroc_thurston because he has no track record (yet) compared to a bad one.
 
trexfromouterspace said:
Adroc's just making stuff up. He's *way* off base.
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Feel free to put some skin the the game.... I'm all abord the ~30 points of IPC train. I might be wrong but I can 100% back it up with logic.

Given we are seeing big core width and execution window increases with zen5 I have yet to see the it will be meh gains justify why performance gain will be low.
 
Thunder 57 said:
I wish people would stop listening to that clown. I'd sooner trust @adroc_thurston because he has no track record (yet) compared to a bad one.
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He got slides that looks legit, besides it s funny that everybody trust him for the slide that display a wider uarch but not for the one that give the IPC expectations...

In case you missed the pics he leaked :

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CPU-Gerüchte: Angaben zu Zen 5 und Zen 6 angeblich von AMD

Aus einer internen AMD-Präsentation soll eine Roadmap stammen, die Angaben zu den kommenden Architekturen Zen 5 und Zen 6 macht.
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