Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

[DisEnchantment]

Speculate at will

 

[RnR_au]

LPCAMM2/3 yes.

Well I can guess the headlines at the usual news outlets in the next 24 hours...

 

[FlameTail]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1769376275288727913

Bring Unified Memory for PCs

 

[adroc_thurston]

Bring Unified Memory for PCs

You can just like but strix-halo when it launches elmao

 

[igor_kavinski]

You can just like but strix-halo when it launches elmao

Will they give us 256GB config?

 

[adroc_thurston]

Will they give us 256GB config?

That requires 32Gb ICs so not for a few more years.

 

[poke01]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1769376275288727913

Bring Unified Memory for PCs

This would get rid of the VRAM issue. No more 12GB or 16GB worries.

Bring LPCAMM and make it unified.

 

[FlameTail]

Strix Halo in ROG Zephyrus G14 would be amazing.

 

[FlameTail]

This would get rid of the VRAM issue. No more 12GB or 16GB worries.

Bring LPCAMM and make it unified.

And finally we can train/run massive ML/AI models on our laps!

 

[poke01]

LPCAMM2/3 yes.

Does this mean after DRR5 we see LPCAMM on desktop?

So after LGA1851 and AM5 we see LPDRR6/7 on desktop? If so, finally!

 

[FlameTail]

Death to DDR!

Death to SO-DIMM!

Long live LPDDR!

Long live LP-CAMM!

 

[adroc_thurston]

And finally we can train/run massive ML/AI models on our laps!

are you insane

Does this mean after DRR5 we see LPCAMM on desktop?

Yea.

So after LGA1851 and AM5 we see LPDRR6/7 on desktop? If so, finally!

You can bolt it on the same socket too.
Call it AM5+ or w/ever.

 

[igor_kavinski]

You can bolt it on the same socket too.
Call it AM5+ or w/ever.

So on-package RAM is coming to AM5 with Zen 6?

 

[adroc_thurston]

So on-package RAM is coming to AM5 with Zen 6?

It's not on-package and dunno.
AMD keeps their platform (relatively) afloat till the final hour.

 

[FlameTail]

So on-package RAM is coming to AM5 with Zen 6?

AM6 you mean?

 

[igor_kavinski]

AM6 you mean?

Well adroc said AM5+ so maybe it will just be a minor modification like AM3+ was.

 

[Joe NYC]

LPCAMM2/3 yes.

What does LPCAMM3 bring over LPCAMM2?

 

[biostud]

doesn't LPDDR requires shorter traces between CPU and memory?

 

[adroc_thurston]

doesn't LPDDR requires shorter traces between CPU and memory?

Well yeah, but you're not dealing with DIMM insertion loss here either.

 

[biostud]

Well yeah, but you're not dealing with DIMM insertion loss here either.

But the LPCAMM slots will need to be relatively close to the CPU? (or at least closer than regaular DIMMs)

 

[adroc_thurston]

But the LPCAMM slots will need to be relatively close to the CPU? (or at least closer than regaular DIMMs)

Yeah, that's the point.
You screw it in and a-ha! it works.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Because it's a server memory and you'll be enjoying LPDDR instead.

I'll only be enjoying LPDDR if the latency isn't awful.

 

[FlameTail]

LPDDR best.

 

[Thibsie]

LPDDR best.

Care to substantiate somewhat ?

 

[Tigerick]

What does LPCAMM3 bring over LPCAMM2?

LPCAMM2 is based on dual-channel LPDDR5X.

LPCAMM3 should base on upcoming dual-channel LPDDR6 as well....

 

[FlameTail]

LPCAMM2 is based on dual-channel LPDDR5X.

LPCAMM3 should base on upcoming dual-channel LPDDR6 as well....

CAMM is a form factor. Why does it have numbered variants??

We didn't have SO-DIMM1, SO-DIMM2, SO-DIMM3 right?