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Hail The Brain Slug

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igor_kavinski said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/123o13s/7950x3d_short_review_from_actual_home_user_pbo



Could that help?
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The issue isn't CPPC deciding to favor the V$ cores if HWINFO is accurate, it shows CPPC still has the frequency cores as the highest priority for CPPC.

I did try setting CPPC affinity in the bios from auto to driver, and then to frequency and it did nothing.

Upon further observation, with PBO off the majority of windows tasks run on the frequency cores, including cinebench single. Enabling PBO causes the majority of windows tasks to run on the V$ cores, including cinebench single. It really seems like a bug especially given HWINFO's reporting that CPPC still prefers the frequency cores.
 
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I went with the ASrock X670E Pro RS, as I knew I was going to keep it for a long time. It seems that ASrock uses the same core BIOS for all their boards, just differ in features.
Don't know if sound quality/codec is important to you but that differs quite a lot. I have a soundcard so doesn't matter to me.
 
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igor_kavinski said:
This is the cheapest choice for me: https://www.amazon.ae/MSI-PRO-A620M-ProSeries-Motherboard/dp/B0C15SRJNM/

But for about $20 more, I would get this: https://www.amazon.ae/MSI-B650M-B-Motherboard-Chipset-RTL8125BG/dp/B0CLLXBMK1/
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Some of those boards can't handle 16 cores full load.
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It's amazing the quality of mobos that Gigabyte seems to be churning out. Looks like they got some competent leader at the helm now. I'm TOTALLY lusting for that B650E Aorus Master.
 
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igor_kavinski said:
My current mobo is ASROCK Sonic so I wouldn't mind that but Gigabyte's stellar DDR5 support along with the lowest VRM temps on the B650E Aorus Master has me craving for that mobo pretty bad.
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50 vs 56C is for both parts excellent results. I don't know much about DDR5 support, so I can't comment on that. But otherwise it seems that the Taichi has more features for less money.
 
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I really wish we'd see more boards like the Taichi lite that focus more on features rather than aesthetics. I wasn't surprised to see HUB's recommendation video feature ASRock heavily. I've thought since day 1 that ASRock nailed a lot of their AM5 offerings. Most of their lineup seems to offer pretty damn good value. The ASRock UEFI is good as well. Much better than MSI and Gigabyte and nearly as good as Asus IMO.

I bought a X670e steel legend around launch and was super impressed with it's feature set for the money. I traded that board to my bro and he's been very happy with it. I also had a B650M-HDV/M.2 for a minute. That board is super meh though. It has a serviceable VRM but other than that it kinda sucks. Way too bare bones for my taste but there wasn't anything better for the $120 Newegg was selling it for when they had it in stock. Not a good buy for more than that IMO.
 
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Rigg said:
I bought a X670e steel legend around launch and was super impressed with it's feature set for the money. I traded that board to my bro and he's been very happy with it. I also had a B650M-HDV/M.2 for a minute. That board is super meh though. It has a serviceable VRM but other than that it kinda sucks. Way too bare bones for my taste but there wasn't anything better for the $120 Newegg was selling it for when they had it in stock. Not a good buy for more than that IMO.
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Yeah the lower end boards from Gigabyte are not great. The Gaming X and Aorus ones are the boards to get from Gigabyte.

I feel like Asrock and Gigabyte have been going well this generation. Good boards for good prices.
 
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Rigg said:
I really wish we'd see more boards like the Taichi lite that focus more on features rather than aesthetics. I wasn't surprised to see HUB's recommendation video feature ASRock heavily. I've thought since day 1 that ASRock nailed a lot of their AM5 offerings. Most of their lineup seems to offer pretty damn good value. The ASRock UEFI is good as well. Much better than MSI and Gigabyte and nearly as good as Asus IMO.

I bought a X670e steel legend around launch and was super impressed with it's feature set for the money. I traded that board to my bro and he's been very happy with it. I also had a B650M-HDV/M.2 for a minute. That board is super meh though. It has a serviceable VRM but other than that it kinda sucks. Way too bare bones for my taste but there wasn't anything better for the $120 Newegg was selling it for when they had it in stock. Not a good buy for more than that IMO.
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Speaks to Steve's integrity too. ASRock blacklisted him for some scathing reviews in the past. But he still gives every deserving board a great rating;

Those boards with no VRM cooling I would never consider for a 16 core. After burning up 2 MSI 970 gaming with a
FX 8350 I stopped cheaping out on boards I intended to use for higher wattage CPUs.
 
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DAPUNISHER said:
Speaks to Steve's integrity too. ASRock blacklisted him for some scathing reviews in the past. But he still gives every deserving board a great rating;
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Totally agree. I always chuckle when idiots call the HUB guys shills. Clearly these dudes DGAF and call it like it is. Always have and hopefully always will.
Those boards with no VRM cooling I would never consider for a 16 core. After burning up 2 MSI 970 gaming with a
FX 8350 I stopped cheaping out on boards I intended to use for higher wattage CPUs.
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I'd never buy a board without VRM heat sinks irrespective of CPU. I try to avoid that tier of boards completely. I don't get too caught up in how fancy the heat sinks are but if they aren't there it's a non starter for me. When I evaluate a VRM I add up the current rating of all of the power stages in the Vcore section. If it's 2x or more than the current I'd expect to pull under full load with the flagship CPU available on the socket, I consider it a solid VRM. I find that's a good rule of thumb since (from what I understand) power stages tend to work at peak thermal efficiency at about half their peak current rating. Power stages are usually pretty tolerant to high temperature but dumping a bunch of heat into surrounding thermal sensitive components (like electrolytic caps) isn't going to be good for the longevity the board. Then its just down to features, UEFI, the brands support/RMA reputation, and most importantly price when considering a board for purchase.

Did you grab a 7950X3D? You just thinkin bout it? Doesn't seem like your style brah.
 
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Rigg said:
I really wish we'd see more boards like the Taichi lite that focus more on features rather than aesthetics. I wasn't surprised to see HUB's recommendation video feature ASRock heavily. I've thought since day 1 that ASRock nailed a lot of their AM5 offerings. Most of their lineup seems to offer pretty damn good value. The ASRock UEFI is good as well. Much better than MSI and Gigabyte and nearly as good as Asus IMO.

I bought a X670e steel legend around launch and was super impressed with it's feature set for the money. I traded that board to my bro and he's been very happy with it. I also had a B650M-HDV/M.2 for a minute. That board is super meh though. It has a serviceable VRM but other than that it kinda sucks. Way too bare bones for my taste but there wasn't anything better for the $120 Newegg was selling it for when they had it in stock. Not a good buy for more than that IMO.
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The Steel Legend does look pretty nice, and I was considering it but went with the MSI X670E Tomahawk, which is very similar and was the same price back then. There is very little difference between the $200-300 boards and $400-500 boards for the most part.

It will be interesting to see the pricing for their X870 Tomahawk, it seems more in line with the Carbon boards and has a couple of extra features from them. But it will probably be a big price jump too.
 
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CP5670 said:
The Steel Legend does look pretty nice, and I was considering it but went with the MSI X670E Tomahawk, which is very similar and was the same price back then. There is very little difference between the $200-300 boards and $400-500 boards for the most part.

It will be interesting to see the pricing for their X870 Tomahawk, it seems more in line with the Carbon boards and has a couple of extra features from them. But it will probably be a big price jump too.
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I agree that the $200-300 boards are generally solid on AM5 and more expensive boards are generally overkill for most users. Especially if you can snag a solid deal on an open box from MC, Amazon, or Newegg. There's plenty of sub $200 deals out there too. I picked up an open box B650 tomahawk for $110 at MC a few months back. I haven't even had a chance to test it yet but it sure seems like a nice board for that kind of money. The Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI and ROG STRIX B650E-E GAMING WIFI boards I posted about in this thread at end of last year have been rock solid as well. I bought 3 of the F's for about $120 each and the E for $270. I totally understand why people wouldn't even give them consideration based on the GN reporting though. Asus' very public issues aside, I have always had very good luck with their Strix boards. I've personally had a few bad experiences with Gigabyte RMA's so I tend to avoid their products. That might be a bit irrational in all honesty.
 
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Rigg said:
Did you grab a 7950X3D? You just thinkin bout it? Doesn't seem like your style brah.
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100% accurate. I want it, but my better sense asks what the hell I am going to do with it? Don't need all those cores. It amounts to window shopping I suppose. But it is helpful to see what you knowledgeable folks are currently judging as bang for buck winners.
 
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100% accurate. I want it, but my better sense asks what the hell I am going to do with it? Don't need all those cores. It amounts to window shopping I suppose. But it is helpful to see what you knowledgeable folks are currently judging as bang for buck winners.
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You can get a 7800X3D/B650/32 GB DDR5 MC combo for that kind of cash.
 
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