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Wow, Memory benchmarks (AIDA64) seem to scale with Memory clock all the way up to DDR4-4400. Very impressive, AMD.Also tested by Reous - hardwareluxx.de.
Wow, Memory benchmarks (AIDA64) seem to scale with Memory clock all the way up to DDR4-4400. Very impressive, AMD.Also tested by Reous - hardwareluxx.de.
They do. Even IGP-less CPUs see benefits from dual-rank DIMMs.I wonder if the desktop chips see the same effects.
No.Are these going to be available at retail any time in 2020?
Model | TDP Range | CPU Core / Thread Count | CPU Base Freq. GHz | 1T CPU Boost Freq. GHz @80C (Up to)* | Radeon Graphics Compute Unit Count | Graphics Freq. GHz (up to max) | Max # of simultaneous displays | L2 Cache | DRAM ECC |
V2748 | 35-54W | 8 / 16 | 2.9 GHz | 4.25 GHz | 7 | 1.6 GHz | 4 | 4 MB | 3200 |
V2546 | 35-54W | 6 / 12 | 3.0 GHz | 3.95 GHz | 6 | 1.5 GHz | 4 | 3 MB | 3200 |
V2718 | 10-25W | 8 / 16 | 1.7 GHz | 4.15 GHz | 7 | 1.6 GHz | 4 | 4 MB | 3200 |
V2516 | 10-25W | 6 / 12 | 2.1 GHz | 3.95 GHz | 6 | 1.5 GHz | 4 | 3 MB | 3200 |
The problem is that in desktop you cant launch the 4350G at $160, how do you justify this 60% price increase for a entry level Ryzen 3 APU that has, overall, worse IGP than the 3400G at $150 and it is about 20% faster in cpu? When you have a faster 4C/8T I3-10100 for just $110 if you only want a IGP and dont care about 3d perf. Even a 3100+GT710 is cheaper than that 4350G.So, there's apparently not enough of a market, or enough available volume in production, to justify formally releasing Renoir desktop APUs to the general market, but there's enough demand for AMD to release an embedded version to companies that want to make what are essentially the same products that many of us would like to make, mini-ITX and mini PCs for use in space constrained or entertainment center environments. I guess that they are satisfied with the grey market they are seeing for the pro models.
It will be realased, most likely in Q1 2021+Bios with suport for B450 and X470 motherboards.So, there's apparently not enough of a market, or enough available volume in production, to justify formally releasing Renoir desktop APUs to the general market, but there's enough demand for AMD to release an embedded version to companies that want to make what are essentially the same products that many of us would like to make, mini-ITX and mini PCs for use in space constrained or entertainment center environments. I guess that they are satisfied with the grey market they are seeing for the pro models.
Can't everything be explained with margins? Cultivating OEM business is a good multiplicator for further demand.So, there's apparently not enough of a market, or enough available volume in production, to justify formally releasing Renoir desktop APUs to the general market, but there's enough demand for AMD to release an embedded version to companies that want to make what are essentially the same products that many of us would like to make, mini-ITX and mini PCs for use in space constrained or entertainment center environments. I guess that they are satisfied with the grey market they are seeing for the pro models.
I recently stumbled on these 2 Lenovo machines with desktop Renoir optionsThing is, even OEMs are seemingly not interested in Renoir desktop. Between Dell, Lenovo and HP I only see 2 models available. There were 4-5 desktops with Renoir mobile.
The virus might be playing a role in that.
Could AMD be trying to gain corporate desktop market-share with their Renoir desktop APU PCs?The star deal is the 4700g version. $540 nets you the 4700g, 16GN 3200 dual channel ram, 1TB HDD +256GB ssd. That's a nicer system than what I have on my work desktop no, and it costs half of what mine did 18 months ago.
Although now it is "temporarily unavailable". Must be hard to keep in stock.The star deal is the 4700g version. $540 nets you the 4700g, 16GN 3200 dual channel ram, 1TB HDD +256GB ssd. That's a nicer system than what I have on my work desktop no, and it costs half of what mine did 18 months ago.
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