Zarqawi and other terrorists declare war on the Iraq election

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: skull

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Engineer

why are we holding back on our Daisy Cutters?

Since our official reason (NOW - constantly shifting. Check back next week and it may change) is to liberate the Iraqi people and spread democracy, it would look rather interesting blowing the hell out of them all, now wouldn't it.

As far as the OP, doesn't suprise me.

We need to drop them on wherever there are terrorists in big groups. In no way should they ever be dropped on innocent civilians who live their regular everyday lives like you and me. I want the Iraqi people to live in freedom and participate in the upcoming elections. The terrorists want to prevent the elections from even taking place

Big groups spread to every location in Iraq. Spread out among the everyday people.

We know where they are. Usually when there is big battle, its usually the terrorists vs US military and the civilians are not in that area. Many people leave if they know an upcoming battle is about to occur.

So instead of fighting these terrorists from the ground, which leads to US casualties, why not drop the Daisy Cutters on them. Of course, you cant drop bombs in all situations, but in certain ones you can.

And, as I pointed out in another thread, destroy the entire town(s) of the people around. Destroy all they have and create new insurgents in the process. Bombing the people does one of two things: Brings fear or creates hate (or both). One of those catch 22 situations.

If killing terrorists create more terrorists, then why kill terrorists in the first place?

Why not invite them to a picnic and offer our finest cheeses and wines?

Not sure. Wonder why Al Qaeda has doubled (estimated) or more since we invaded Iraq?

hmm actually a lot of al qaeda leadership has been killed. but they'll find new leaders, so we'll have to kill them too. Some people, not sure if you feel this way, want to sit down with these terrorists. Thats totally insane.

You dont sit down with people who want to kill your children and convert you to their religion. You destroy them.

You say that while the terrorists are thinking we have to do whatever necesesary to keep GW Bush from killing our children in the name of freedom.

If that's so, why do they blow up Iraqis themselves? Why do they behead them as well?

Stop deluding yourself and attempting to delude others that the insurgency is about preventing the death of children. That's pure rhetoric bunk.

 

[skull]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: skull

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Engineer

why are we holding back on our Daisy Cutters?

Since our official reason (NOW - constantly shifting. Check back next week and it may change) is to liberate the Iraqi people and spread democracy, it would look rather interesting blowing the hell out of them all, now wouldn't it.

As far as the OP, doesn't suprise me.

We need to drop them on wherever there are terrorists in big groups. In no way should they ever be dropped on innocent civilians who live their regular everyday lives like you and me. I want the Iraqi people to live in freedom and participate in the upcoming elections. The terrorists want to prevent the elections from even taking place

Big groups spread to every location in Iraq. Spread out among the everyday people.

We know where they are. Usually when there is big battle, its usually the terrorists vs US military and the civilians are not in that area. Many people leave if they know an upcoming battle is about to occur.

So instead of fighting these terrorists from the ground, which leads to US casualties, why not drop the Daisy Cutters on them. Of course, you cant drop bombs in all situations, but in certain ones you can.

And, as I pointed out in another thread, destroy the entire town(s) of the people around. Destroy all they have and create new insurgents in the process. Bombing the people does one of two things: Brings fear or creates hate (or both). One of those catch 22 situations.

If killing terrorists create more terrorists, then why kill terrorists in the first place?

Why not invite them to a picnic and offer our finest cheeses and wines?

Not sure. Wonder why Al Qaeda has doubled (estimated) or more since we invaded Iraq?

hmm actually a lot of al qaeda leadership has been killed. but they'll find new leaders, so we'll have to kill them too. Some people, not sure if you feel this way, want to sit down with these terrorists. Thats totally insane.

You dont sit down with people who want to kill your children and convert you to their religion. You destroy them.

You say that while the terrorists are thinking we have to do whatever necesesary to keep GW Bush from killing our children in the name of freedom.

If that's so, why do they blow up Iraqis themselves? Why do they behead them as well?

Stop deluding yourself and attempting to delude others that the insurgency is about preventing the death of children. That's pure rhetoric bunk.

I'm not sure if were there to help the iraqis why do we kill innocent civilians?

According to you guys were doing what we have to. You don't think the insurgents are just doing the same thing?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: skull

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: skull

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Engineer

why are we holding back on our Daisy Cutters?

Since our official reason (NOW - constantly shifting. Check back next week and it may change) is to liberate the Iraqi people and spread democracy, it would look rather interesting blowing the hell out of them all, now wouldn't it.

As far as the OP, doesn't suprise me.

We need to drop them on wherever there are terrorists in big groups. In no way should they ever be dropped on innocent civilians who live their regular everyday lives like you and me. I want the Iraqi people to live in freedom and participate in the upcoming elections. The terrorists want to prevent the elections from even taking place

Big groups spread to every location in Iraq. Spread out among the everyday people.

We know where they are. Usually when there is big battle, its usually the terrorists vs US military and the civilians are not in that area. Many people leave if they know an upcoming battle is about to occur.

So instead of fighting these terrorists from the ground, which leads to US casualties, why not drop the Daisy Cutters on them. Of course, you cant drop bombs in all situations, but in certain ones you can.

And, as I pointed out in another thread, destroy the entire town(s) of the people around. Destroy all they have and create new insurgents in the process. Bombing the people does one of two things: Brings fear or creates hate (or both). One of those catch 22 situations.

If killing terrorists create more terrorists, then why kill terrorists in the first place?

Why not invite them to a picnic and offer our finest cheeses and wines?

Not sure. Wonder why Al Qaeda has doubled (estimated) or more since we invaded Iraq?

hmm actually a lot of al qaeda leadership has been killed. but they'll find new leaders, so we'll have to kill them too. Some people, not sure if you feel this way, want to sit down with these terrorists. Thats totally insane.

You dont sit down with people who want to kill your children and convert you to their religion. You destroy them.

You say that while the terrorists are thinking we have to do whatever necesesary to keep GW Bush from killing our children in the name of freedom.

If that's so, why do they blow up Iraqis themselves? Why do they behead them as well?

Stop deluding yourself and attempting to delude others that the insurgency is about preventing the death of children. That's pure rhetoric bunk.

I'm not sure if were there to help the iraqis why do we kill innocent civilians?

According to you guys were doing what we have to. You don't think the insurgents are just doing the same thing?

I see you have no answer to my questions. I am not surprised. It goes with the shallow thinking of the rhetorical types who would focus only on the US. It demonstrates how little they actually think the situation through and fail to take the broad range of issues into consideration.

Do you not understand that focusing only on one side presents only half the picture?

Man you anti-war heros are all the same. No answers from any of you. Only one-sided accusations.

How sad.

 

[TheBDB]

Please stop quoting each other.

 

[skull]

I see you have no answer to my questions. I am not surprised. It goes with the shallow thinking of the rhetorical types who would focus only on the US. It demonstrates how little they actually think the situation through and fail to take the broad range of issues into consideration.

You have no answers to my questions my answer to your questions were pointing out the US hurts the people there trying to help the same way the insurgents do. You must only look at it one sided because you can't see where the insurgents are coming from.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: skull

I see you have no answer to my questions. I am not surprised. It goes with the shallow thinking of the rhetorical types who would focus only on the US. It demonstrates how little they actually think the situation through and fail to take the broad range of issues into consideration.

You have no answers to my questions my answer to your questions were pointing out the US hurts the people there trying to help the same way the insurgents do. You must only look at it one sided because you can't see where the insurgents are coming from.

Ok, so the US is evil in trying to set up the democracy with great effort?

and the terrorists are great humans in trying their best to destroy any hope for elections?

I think I understand where your coming from.

 

[skull]

There doing what any reasonable human would do if there country was invaded.

The US is evil in trying to set up democracy with the use of guns and bombs.

 

[judasmachine]

it's going to be a bloodbath and we all know it.

i give it about 20% chance of being successful meaning that only 20% of voters will actually get their votes in before the slaughter begins.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: skull
There doing what any reasonable human would do if there country was invaded.

The US is evil in trying to set up democracy with the use of guns and bombs.

maybe you've missed a history lesson or two. But A LOT of democracies have been formed with the use of guns and violence

 

[skull]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: skull
There doing what any reasonable human would do if there country was invaded.

The US is evil in trying to set up democracy with the use of guns and bombs.

maybe you've missed a history lesson or two. But A LOT of democracies have been formed with the use of guns and violence

If you paid attention in history class you would know we defended our country when we were invaded.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: raildogg
it is actually the worlds largest conventional bomb, causes an enormous amont of damage. again, this should not be used where civilians are nearby.

OK, so you know what it is and claim to know its utility. Do you really think these people are running around out in the middle of the desert in huge packs half a mile across? Read the news - realize that our troops aren't dying out in the middle of BFE, they're dying from ambushes in cities.

edit: Oh, and it's not the largest conventional bomb. MOAB

 

[Velk]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Engineer

why are we holding back on our Daisy Cutters?

Since our official reason (NOW - constantly shifting. Check back next week and it may change) is to liberate the Iraqi people and spread democracy, it would look rather interesting blowing the hell out of them all, now wouldn't it.

As far as the OP, doesn't suprise me.

We need to drop them on wherever there are terrorists in big groups. In no way should they ever be dropped on innocent civilians who live their regular everyday lives like you and me. I want the Iraqi people to live in freedom and participate in the upcoming elections. The terrorists want to prevent the elections from even taking place

Big groups spread to every location in Iraq. Spread out among the everyday people.

We know where they are. Usually when there is big battle, its usually the terrorists vs US military and the civilians are not in that area. Many people leave if they know an upcoming battle is about to occur.

Here is a thought experiment for you. I declare there is a terrorist somewhere in your neighborhood and announce that I am going to bomb your suburb to the ground to eliminate said terrorist.

What's going to happen ?

Maybe I should just bomb your suburb without warning so the terrorist can't escape.

Hmm, seems to be problems with that idea as well.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: raildogg
it is actually the worlds largest conventional bomb, causes an enormous amont of damage. again, this should not be used where civilians are nearby.

OK, so you know what it is and claim to know its utility. Do you really think these people are running around out in the middle of the desert in huge packs half a mile across? Read the news - realize that our troops aren't dying out in the middle of BFE, they're dying from ambushes in cities.

edit: Oh, and it's not the largest conventional bomb. MOAB

Ok so this is the replacement to the Daisy Cutter. DS was 15k lbs and this is about 21k lbs, so its more powerful. Now that you mention it, I remember vividly the MOAB. It was made popular on the Daily Show

Your right, but when we evacuated certain cities, maybe this bomb could have been used. Of course I have limited military knowledge, and the US military leaders know how to conduct the war. im just a observer

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: raildogg
Ok so this is the replacement to the Daisy Cutter. DS was 15k lbs and this is about 21k lbs, so its more powerful. Now that you mention it, I remember vividly the MOAB. It was made popular on the Daily Show

Your right, but when we evacuated certain cities, maybe this bomb could have been used. Of course I have limited military knowledge, and the US military leaders know how to conduct the war. im just a observer

You are actually suggesting we level an entire *CITY* with one of these bombs? If this is what you are suggesting, you are a very ridiculous person. Do you really think that would help us in our fight against insurgents? Do you think the half-million people you just made homeless are going to be friendly to you?

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: raildogg
Ok so this is the replacement to the Daisy Cutter. DS was 15k lbs and this is about 21k lbs, so its more powerful. Now that you mention it, I remember vividly the MOAB. It was made popular on the Daily Show

Your right, but when we evacuated certain cities, maybe this bomb could have been used. Of course I have limited military knowledge, and the US military leaders know how to conduct the war. im just a observer

You are actually suggesting we level an entire *CITY* with one of these bombs? If this is what you are suggesting, you are a very ridiculous person. Do you really think that would help us in our fight against insurgents? Do you think the half-million people you just made homeless are going to be friendly to you?

as I've posted before I am not a military man and dont claim to be. well no, leveling a city would be to noones benefit, guess i was wrong. i admit it.

but i believe these bombs were used during Operation Iraqi Freedom if im not mistaken

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: raildogg
as I've posted before I am not a military man and dont claim to be. well no, leveling a city would be to noones benefit, guess i was wrong. i admit it.

but i believe these bombs were used during Operation Iraqi Freedom if im not mistaken

Thank you. I was beginning to wonder where all the sanity had gone.

 

[MajorCaliber]

Make them fear us more than they hate us!

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: raildogg
We need to drop them on wherever there are terrorists in big groups.

heh, wouldnt that be nice. Youd be lucky to catch more than 10 of them together at once, they scatter like roaches.

 

[Infohawk]

Maybe you can buy an AR15, buy a ticket over there and do some killing yourself...