z0mg look what they did to ati.com

[Ulfhednar]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
Don't lose too much sleep over the fact that ATI will continue doing what they've done for years, but from now on with the resources of AMD at their disposal and drawing on their strong leadership and expertise.

Yep, AMD bought ATI to help ATI out. That makes perfect sense. They are not going to use ATI's resources in any way to compete with Intel. In fact they are going to divert their own resources away form their primary business to support ATI in its small profit margin high end graphics business. :roll:

I never said that AMD wouldn't use the resources of ATI, that's the whole idea behind buying them out I think. However, AMD have stated many times now that ATI would keep their branding and product ranges too, just under the leadership of AMD.

This is a good thing for both companies. A pooling of resources, practically a doubling of experience in the microprocessor industry, a pooling of designers and engineers.

How can this do anything but strengthen AMD and ATI individually, as well as together?

Seriously, you're wearing green-tinted shades my friend. You're going to be severely disappointed when all this bullcrap you're spreading doesn't ever come to pass.

 

[josh6079]

On the note of the Nvidia CPU thing, another important factor is motherboards. Asus and DFI and Abit would much rather make boards for CPU's as good as AMD's and Intels, not Nvidia's first shot at the CPU. They'd have to intice them with a lot of money, even on top of the amount they would spend on research and develope for the CPU itself.

It is much easier for a CPU company to begin making GPU's than it is for a GPU company to begin making CPU's.

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: josh6079
On the note of the Nvidia CPU thing, another important factor is motherboards. Asus and DFI and Abit would much rather make boards for CPU's as good as AMD's and Intels, not Nvidia's first shot at the CPU. They'd have to intice them with a lot of money, even on top of the amount they would spend on research and develope for the CPU itself.

It is much easier for a CPU company to begin making GPU's than it is for a GPU company to begin making CPU's.

DFI and Abit already make NVIDIA based motherboards. All NVIDIA would have to do is make socket compatible chips (the same thing AMD did back in the day).

However I still think NVIDIA is looking to make a mobile CPU not a desktop\server CPU. Something to power a cell phone or pda or at most an ultra portable laptop.

 

[josh6079]

DFI and Abit already make NVIDIA based motherboards. All NVIDIA would have to do is make socket compatible chips (the same thing AMD did back in the day).

True, but I was commenting more for in the near future rather than the time being. A lot of those chipsets are on AMD motherboards and if AMD has ATI helping with their own chipsets, they won't need to put money out to implement Nvidia's chipsets.

Truly though, this is far too early to tell. I've just recently chimed in on the G80 speculating because it is so close. To predict the course of the future for complete computer systems, CPU/GPU/Chipset, is a far stretch. We'll have to just sit back and enjoy some 16xAA@34fps in FEAR for the meantime

 

[Ulfhednar]

Originally posted by: Wreckage
DFI and Abit already make NVIDIA based motherboards. All NVIDIA would have to do is make socket compatible chips (the same thing AMD did back in the day).

However I still think NVIDIA is looking to make a mobile CPU not a desktop\server CPU. Something to power a cell phone or pda or at most an ultra portable laptop.

Do you work for Nvidia? How do you know this?

This sounds like insider information to me, because I don't think any of us have heard what Nvidia's long term plans are.

 

[Gstanfor]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

it looks like nvidia will hit a dead end

I'd love a quarter for every time I've heard a fanatic/3dfx zealot bleat that line out over the years...

i'd take a nickel for every time you dispel fanatic FUD

i'd have xfired xtxes and core2 by now.
:Q

looks like you are getting a little worried

Fixed it for you

Why would I be worried? there's no competition left...

 

[Gstanfor]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
Don't lose too much sleep over the fact that ATI will continue doing what they've done for years, but from now on with the resources of AMD at their disposal and drawing on their strong leadership and expertise.

Yep, AMD bought ATI to help ATI out. That makes perfect sense. They are not going to use ATI's resources in any way to compete with Intel. In fact they are going to divert their own resources away form their primary business to support ATI in its small profit margin high end graphics business. :roll:

you still don't get it

AMD bought ATI for its strengths . . . AMD is going into the gfx business - big time . . . integrated and high end

it helps to have the performance crown if you are in the GFX business as AMD is well aware . . .
... and as you seem so UNaware - in contrast.

AMD bought ATi for its chipsets & low power experience. The fact that there was an abundance of trained silicon engineers that could be diverted to the war against intel didn't hurt either.

 

[Gstanfor]

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar

Originally posted by: Wreckage
DFI and Abit already make NVIDIA based motherboards. All NVIDIA would have to do is make socket compatible chips (the same thing AMD did back in the day).

However I still think NVIDIA is looking to make a mobile CPU not a desktop\server CPU. Something to power a cell phone or pda or at most an ultra portable laptop.

Do you work for Nvidia? How do you know this?

This sounds like insider information to me, because I don't think any of us have heard what Nvidia's long term plans are.

Tried reading their investor conference call transcripts lately?

 

[Ulfhednar]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
Do you work for Nvidia? How do you know this?

This sounds like insider information to me, because I don't think any of us have heard what Nvidia's long term plans are.

Tried reading their investor conference call transcripts lately?

No but I did read this, which says the Radeon product line is going nowhere. :roll:

As I keep saying to you and your FUDdite kin; The more you convince yourselves that ATI are pulling from the graphics card market with your wishful thinking, the more disappointed you will be when it never comes to pass.

 

[Gstanfor]

Originally posted by: apoppin
theInq did some schmoozing with the ATi/AMD guys and there is a lot of interesting tidbits in this weird article:

THE chief technology officers of AMD and ATI challenged each other to a hot curry fight in London last night but the real winner was on-looker ATI man Richard Huddy whose meal of scallops was so spicy it took his breath away.

The occasion, held at a curry emporium not far from Tony Blair's house was for a few online hacks to meet Phil Hester, chief tech officer of AMD, and Bob Drebin, ATI's CTO.

And why the curry challenge? Phil Hester's passion is growing peppers. Red peppers, green peppers, jalapeno peppers, chilli peppers - mirch of every kind. . . .

We took the opportunity to ask Mr Hester some questions about AMD and ATI. While he said AMD didn't speculate about what companies it might take over in the future, he said that the firm was always looking for opportunities. He wasn't able to comment on SGI suing ATI for an alleged breach of patents because he's been on the go all week and most of yesterday.

He was interesting about the rumours that Nvidia is looking at creating a CPU. He said that AMD had looked for some time at spreading its wings into the graphics arena, but concluded that it was better to approach a firm like ATI which had immense expertise in that marketplace. He said that the only rational way to approach that market was to take that approach.

The idea of having graphics and CPU in one die is not, of course, new. In fact, back in the early 1990s, Intel had proposed a design for the end of the decade which would have such features, although that never came about.

He said that if you looked at the graphics and CPU market for PCs, there had been five to 10 companies which tried to enter the GPU business and the same sort of number attempted entry into the CPU business too. But that has consolidated into two or three firms in both sectors which suited AMD customers very well. A monopoly didn't suit PC manufacturers, who like to be able to choose which components they use and play the price and performance game.

It's too early to say how AMD's acquisition of ATI will shake out, said Hester, but there were unlikely to be too many redundancies. It continued to be a partner and to work with Nvidia and it was likely that AMD will continue to use the ATI brand in the AMD portfolio, however that eventually shakes out. .. . .

What a pity Huddy's meal didn't take his breath away permanently....

 

[Ulfhednar]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
What a pity Huddy's meal didn't take his breath away permanently....

Did you just wish that somebody died purely because they work for a company you don't like?

There's being a drooling, idiot fanboy but then there's being psychotic.

Seek professional help...

 

[Gstanfor]

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
What a pity Huddy's meal didn't take his breath away permanently....

Did you just wish that somebody died purely because they work for a company you don't like?

There's being a drooling, idiot fanboy but then there's being psychotic.

Seek professional help...

Perhaps you should read up on Mr. Huddy - he's ex nvidia & the person lurking behind ATi's PR. It's little wonder nvidia's PR has improved and ATi's worsened since he moved companies...

 

[Ulfhednar]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
What a pity Huddy's meal didn't take his breath away permanently....

Did you just wish that somebody died purely because they work for a company you don't like?

There's being a drooling, idiot fanboy but then there's being psychotic.

Seek professional help...

Perhaps you should read up on Mr. Huddy - he's ex nvidia & the person lurking behind ATi's PR. It's little wonder nvidia's PR has improved and ATi's worsened since he moved companies...

I really couldn't care less about what the guy's job is, where his loyalties may lie, or if he if good or bad at his job. Wishing death on him is crossing a line into worrying territority.

 

[450R]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
What a pity Huddy's meal didn't take his breath away permanently....

I've never seen anyone dig their own grave with so much enthusiasm as you do every day on these forums. You must enjoy being disliked and unrespected.

 

[Keysplayr]

I wonder how far the mods will let him go.

 

[Ulfhednar]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
I wonder how far the mods will let him go.

Maybe he has to wish that one of them would die too.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: apoppin
theInq did some schmoozing with the ATi/AMD guys and there is a lot of interesting tidbits in this weird article:

THE chief technology officers of AMD and ATI challenged each other to a hot curry fight in London last night but the real winner was on-looker ATI man Richard Huddy whose meal of scallops was so spicy it took his breath away.

The occasion, held at a curry emporium not far from Tony Blair's house was for a few online hacks to meet Phil Hester, chief tech officer of AMD, and Bob Drebin, ATI's CTO.

And why the curry challenge? Phil Hester's passion is growing peppers. Red peppers, green peppers, jalapeno peppers, chilli peppers - mirch of every kind. . . .

We took the opportunity to ask Mr Hester some questions about AMD and ATI. While he said AMD didn't speculate about what companies it might take over in the future, he said that the firm was always looking for opportunities. He wasn't able to comment on SGI suing ATI for an alleged breach of patents because he's been on the go all week and most of yesterday.

He was interesting about the rumours that Nvidia is looking at creating a CPU. He said that AMD had looked for some time at spreading its wings into the graphics arena, but concluded that it was better to approach a firm like ATI which had immense expertise in that marketplace. He said that the only rational way to approach that market was to take that approach.

The idea of having graphics and CPU in one die is not, of course, new. In fact, back in the early 1990s, Intel had proposed a design for the end of the decade which would have such features, although that never came about.

He said that if you looked at the graphics and CPU market for PCs, there had been five to 10 companies which tried to enter the GPU business and the same sort of number attempted entry into the CPU business too. But that has consolidated into two or three firms in both sectors which suited AMD customers very well. A monopoly didn't suit PC manufacturers, who like to be able to choose which components they use and play the price and performance game.

It's too early to say how AMD's acquisition of ATI will shake out, said Hester, but there were unlikely to be too many redundancies. It continued to be a partner and to work with Nvidia and it was likely that AMD will continue to use the ATI brand in the AMD portfolio, however that eventually shakes out. .. . .

What a pity Huddy's meal didn't take his breath away permanently....

What a pity a mod doesn't take your account away permanently....

only a imbecilic demented wanker posts stupid evil garbage like you do . . . you are the very lowest form of poster here . . . below that of troll . . . you just hit another new low with your own personal cesspool of posted hate against people
:thumbsdown:

no one will miss you


Edit: i bolded the troll's evil' comment that i was replying to
:disgust:

 

[Ulfhednar]

Wow, lol. :shocked:

 

[Nelsieus]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: apoppin
theInq did some schmoozing with the ATi/AMD guys and there is a lot of interesting tidbits in this weird article:

THE chief technology officers of AMD and ATI challenged each other to a hot curry fight in London last night but the real winner was on-looker ATI man Richard Huddy whose meal of scallops was so spicy it took his breath away.

The occasion, held at a curry emporium not far from Tony Blair's house was for a few online hacks to meet Phil Hester, chief tech officer of AMD, and Bob Drebin, ATI's CTO.

And why the curry challenge? Phil Hester's passion is growing peppers. Red peppers, green peppers, jalapeno peppers, chilli peppers - mirch of every kind. . . .

We took the opportunity to ask Mr Hester some questions about AMD and ATI. While he said AMD didn't speculate about what companies it might take over in the future, he said that the firm was always looking for opportunities. He wasn't able to comment on SGI suing ATI for an alleged breach of patents because he's been on the go all week and most of yesterday.

He was interesting about the rumours that Nvidia is looking at creating a CPU. He said that AMD had looked for some time at spreading its wings into the graphics arena, but concluded that it was better to approach a firm like ATI which had immense expertise in that marketplace. He said that the only rational way to approach that market was to take that approach.

The idea of having graphics and CPU in one die is not, of course, new. In fact, back in the early 1990s, Intel had proposed a design for the end of the decade which would have such features, although that never came about.

He said that if you looked at the graphics and CPU market for PCs, there had been five to 10 companies which tried to enter the GPU business and the same sort of number attempted entry into the CPU business too. But that has consolidated into two or three firms in both sectors which suited AMD customers very well. A monopoly didn't suit PC manufacturers, who like to be able to choose which components they use and play the price and performance game.

It's too early to say how AMD's acquisition of ATI will shake out, said Hester, but there were unlikely to be too many redundancies. It continued to be a partner and to work with Nvidia and it was likely that AMD will continue to use the ATI brand in the AMD portfolio, however that eventually shakes out. .. . .

What a pity Huddy's meal didn't take his breath away permanently....

What a pity a mod doesn't take your account away permanently....

only a imbecilic demented wanker posts stupid evil garbage like you do . . . you are the very lowest form of poster here . . . below that of troll . . . you just hit another new low with your own personal cesspool of posted hate against people
:thumbsdown:

no one will miss you

It's a pity....you're like the new 5150 Joker. That trumps everything. :roll:

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Nelsieus

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: apoppin
theInq did some schmoozing with the ATi/AMD guys and there is a lot of interesting tidbits in this weird article:

THE chief technology officers of AMD and ATI challenged each other to a hot curry fight in London last night but the real winner was on-looker ATI man Richard Huddy whose meal of scallops was so spicy it took his breath away.

The occasion, held at a curry emporium not far from Tony Blair's house was for a few online hacks to meet Phil Hester, chief tech officer of AMD, and Bob Drebin, ATI's CTO.

And why the curry challenge? Phil Hester's passion is growing peppers. Red peppers, green peppers, jalapeno peppers, chilli peppers - mirch of every kind. . . .

We took the opportunity to ask Mr Hester some questions about AMD and ATI. While he said AMD didn't speculate about what companies it might take over in the future, he said that the firm was always looking for opportunities. He wasn't able to comment on SGI suing ATI for an alleged breach of patents because he's been on the go all week and most of yesterday.

He was interesting about the rumours that Nvidia is looking at creating a CPU. He said that AMD had looked for some time at spreading its wings into the graphics arena, but concluded that it was better to approach a firm like ATI which had immense expertise in that marketplace. He said that the only rational way to approach that market was to take that approach.

The idea of having graphics and CPU in one die is not, of course, new. In fact, back in the early 1990s, Intel had proposed a design for the end of the decade which would have such features, although that never came about.

He said that if you looked at the graphics and CPU market for PCs, there had been five to 10 companies which tried to enter the GPU business and the same sort of number attempted entry into the CPU business too. But that has consolidated into two or three firms in both sectors which suited AMD customers very well. A monopoly didn't suit PC manufacturers, who like to be able to choose which components they use and play the price and performance game.

It's too early to say how AMD's acquisition of ATI will shake out, said Hester, but there were unlikely to be too many redundancies. It continued to be a partner and to work with Nvidia and it was likely that AMD will continue to use the ATI brand in the AMD portfolio, however that eventually shakes out. .. . .

What a pity Huddy's meal didn't take his breath away permanently....

What a pity a mod doesn't take your account away permanently....

only a imbecilic demented wanker posts stupid evil garbage like you do . . . you are the very lowest form of poster here . . . below that of troll . . . you just hit another new low with your own personal cesspool of posted hate against people
:thumbsdown:

no one will miss you

It's a pity....you're like the new 5150 Joker. That trumps everything. :roll:

and you're the new Wreckage

. . . or is it Crusader?

that trumps nothing


Edit: i bolded the trolls' comments that i was replying to

do you agree with him that ATi's Richard Huddy should die because he is an employee of AMD/ATi?

:disgust:

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: apoppin

What a pity a mod doesn't take your account away permanently....

only a imbecilic demented wanker posts stupid evil garbage like you do . . . you are the very lowest form of poster here . . . below that of troll . . . you just hit another new low with your own personal cesspool of posted hate against people
:thumbsdown:

no one will miss you

It must be like looking into a mirror for you.

 

[Gstanfor]

I've a suspicion you're Richard Huddy, Apoppin...

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
I've a suspicion you're Richard Huddy, Apoppin...

Keep your f*cking trolling outta my thread please :frown:

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
I've a suspicion you're Richard Huddy, Apoppin...

it's a fact that you are a troll

=========================

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: apoppin

What a pity a mod doesn't take your account away permanently....

only a imbecilic demented wanker posts stupid evil garbage like you do . . . you are the very lowest form of poster here . . . below that of troll . . . you just hit another new low with your own personal cesspool of posted hate against people
:thumbsdown:

no one will miss you

It must be like looking into a mirror for you.

you must agree with Gstanfor's comment which brought my rebuke:

What a pity Huddy's meal didn't take his breath away permanently....

what an ass
:thumbsdown:

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: apoppin
you must agree with Gstanfor's comment which brought my rebuke:

No, I just agree that you are sad and lost.