Your preferred method of execution?

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Which way?

  • Firing squad

    Votes: 14 43.8%
  • Lethal injection

    Votes: 10 31.3%
  • Electrocution

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Hanging

    Votes: 1 3.1%
  • Gas chamber

    Votes: 1 3.1%
  • Surprise me (ISIS style)

    Votes: 6 18.8%

  • Total voters
    32

Darwin333

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Dec 11, 2006
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That isn't the best case to put illustrate innocent people being put to death although it does absolutely raise serious issues with how certain states handle death penalty cases and executions. One of many better examples is Jesse Joseph Tafero:

He was convicted of killing a state trooper and a visiting Canadian friend of the troopers. Another person in the car with him, Rhodes, cut a deal to testify against him in order to get life with parole. He recanted that testimony 3 times before Tafero was put to death and said that he was the one who actually shot both men. Forensic evidence showed that he had definitely fired a gun while Tafero's showed that he handled a recently fired gun and only possibly fired one. Rhodes, who was released from prison on parole in 94, still says that he shot both men. Tafero's wife was also convicted in the murder of the two men and sentenced to death. Two years after her husband was put to death she was released from jail due to lack of evidence, the very same evidence used to put Tafero to death. Read that again, after they reviewed the evidence they didn't have enough to even keep her in jail much less execute her and it was the exact same evidence they used to put a man to death. Then we have the very fucked up way his execution was handled and is pretty much the very definition of torture.

"Tafero was to be executed by electrocution. The machine, dubbed "Old Sparky", malfunctioned, causing six-inch flames to shoot out of Tafero's head. A member of the execution team had used a synthetic sponge rather than a sea sponge, which is necessary to provide greater conductivity and a quick death. In all, three jolts of electricity were required to execute Tafero, a process that took seven minutes.[8] Prison inmates later claimed that 'Old Sparky' was "fixed" and tampered with to make Tafero's execution more like torture. One close inmate friend of Tafero later said he could smell the burning flesh of his friend for days after."

The Carlos DeLuna and Cameron Todd Willingham cases are also very good examples of almost surely innocent people being murdered by the state. The Willingham case has received a ton of attention, he was accused of murdering his wife and 3 kids by arson. From the Wiki:

"In June 2009, the State of Texas ordered a re-examination of the case. In August 2009, eighteen years after the fire and five years after Willingham's execution, a report conducted by Dr. Craig Beyler, hired by the Texas Forensic Science Commission to review the case, found that "a finding of arson could not be sustained". Beyler said key testimony from a fire marshal at Willingham's trial was "hardly consistent with a scientific mind-set and is more characteristic of mystics or psychics"

"Over the past five years, the Willingham case has been reviewed by nine of the nation's top fire scientists — first for the Tribune, then for the Innocence Project, and now for the commission. All concluded that the original investigators relied on outdated theories and folklore to justify the determination of arson. The only other evidence of significance against Willingham was twice-recanted testimony[1] by another inmate, who testified that Willingham had confessed to him. Jailhouse informants are viewed with skepticism in the justice system, so much so that some jurisdictions have restrictions against their use."
 
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Mayne

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Argued recently with a friend over whether our current execution methods are the most humane.

If you had a choice in the way you were to be executed, which would it be?

a bullet to my head by my brother.
 

BoomerD

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Feb 26, 2006
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I always wondered...what is it about snu-snu that kills you? I could see it being a heart attack...done right, it can be HARD work...or an aneurism...because GOOD snu-snu can be mind-blowing...but heart attacks are usually pretty painful...

Me, I'm not a druggie, but I think sitting in my rocking chair, peaking on a nice dose of LSD, at ground zero of a massive nuclear blast...it would be quick, relatively painless...and "WOW...LOOK AT THE COLORS.........."
 

Exterous

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I always wondered...what is it about snu-snu that kills you? I could see it being a heart attack...done right, it can be HARD work...or an aneurism...because GOOD snu-snu can be mind-blowing...but heart attacks are usually pretty painful...

I've noticed that my pain tolerance is way higher during sex though. Minor aches during turn into really bothersome issues later at least for me
 

highland145

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Oct 12, 2009
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I've noticed that my pain tolerance is way higher during sex though. Minor aches during turn into really bothersome issues later at least for me
I'm telling your wife that you're cheating.


Assuming that the executee is guilty....If it's me, lethal injection. If it's some gangstalker, ISIS all the way.
 

Thebobo

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Jun 19, 2006
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Squishing.

Le_Toru_Du_MOnde.jpg
 

madoka

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I always wondered...what is it about snu-snu that kills you? I could see it being a heart attack...done right, it can be HARD work...or an aneurism...because GOOD snu-snu can be mind-blowing...but heart attacks are usually pretty painful...

You had to remember the size of those Amazonian executioners:

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Like this woman:

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Doing this:

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To your junk:

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I think it would be very painful.
 

RLGL

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Jan 8, 2013
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Responding to the original question: I don't know, I have never been executed before.
 

FirNaTine

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The anesthesia used is highly lipid soluble, and moves quickly to fatty tissues. That process doesn't stop when the heart stops beating. So, unless the blood was drawn as soon as it did, post mortem blood levels may not accurately reflect the levels present when they died.

I saw nothing in the article even acknowledging that, so the "researchers," are either unaware and not qualified to do that research, or more likely they know it, but left that part out to further their case.

Lipid solubility is actually what allows it to quickly enter the brain and work. Granted he's a politician, but if you look at the dissenting anesthesiologist in the article, he says they're being given 10 times the normal anesthetic dose. Anesthesiologists live and breathe medication effective doses and length of anesthesia. And as far as high adrenaline levels due to stress, they're highly aware of that as well... As people that get shot/stabbed, etc and think they're going to do routinely undergo surgery. The worst are head injured patients, as on their confusion think medics, doctors etc are also trying to hurt/kill them. So they're quite experienced with patients with extreme adrenaline levels also. I've witnessed several severe head injured patients being sedated in a very similar manner to allow their care. Sometimes it takes a second dose of anesthesia, but I've never seen someone stay awake for more than two doses, let alone ten.
 

Darwin333

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Dec 11, 2006
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43 out of 49 cases is an isolated incident?

Amazing that we have had the technology and medicines to put people under for MAJOR surgeries in which a crazy amount of pain would otherwise be endured for quite a while now. Yet we can't seem to get it right when trying to kill people in a, at least I hope, a merciful way.
How about the brazen bull? That's a fun one. :eek:

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First guy to go in it was the creator.

That would be a horrible way to go. Burning is the worse kind of pain.

I raise you with the Judas Cradle, give me the slow roast over this any day:

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The Judas Cradle, a terrible medieval torture where the victim would be placed on top of a pyramid-like seat. The victim's feet were tied to each other in a way that moving one leg would force the other to move as well - increasing pain.The triangular-shaped end of the judas cradle was inserted in the victim's anus or vagina. This torture could last, depending on some factors discussed below, anywhere from a few hours to complete days.

Death Factors

The time it took someone to die varied enormously from individual to individual. Torturers would sometimes add weight to the victim's legs as to increase pain and hurry the victim's death. Other torturers would place oil on the device which increased pain considerably.

This device was rarely, if at all, washed. If the victim did not die quickly enough, or their painful execution was interrupted, they would invariantly die from an infection.

The victim was sometimes rocked or made fall repeatedly onto the "pyramid". This was done so torturers could acquire vital information from the victim. If he or she refused to talk, the torturer would either add more weight to the victim or make him or her fall repeatedly on the device.
 

Zanovar

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Amazing that we have had the technology and medicines to put people under for MAJOR surgeries in which a crazy amount of pain would otherwise be endured for quite a while now. Yet we can't seem to get it right when trying to kill people in a, at least I hope, a merciful way.


I raise you with the Judas Cradle, give me the slow roast over this any day:

judas-cradle.jpg


The Judas Cradle, a terrible medieval torture where the victim would be placed on top of a pyramid-like seat. The victim's feet were tied to each other in a way that moving one leg would force the other to move as well - increasing pain.The triangular-shaped end of the judas cradle was inserted in the victim's anus or vagina. This torture could last, depending on some factors discussed below, anywhere from a few hours to complete days.

Death Factors

The time it took someone to die varied enormously from individual to individual. Torturers would sometimes add weight to the victim's legs as to increase pain and hurry the victim's death. Other torturers would place oil on the device which increased pain considerably.

This device was rarely, if at all, washed. If the victim did not die quickly enough, or their painful execution was interrupted, they would invariantly die from an infection.

The victim was sometimes rocked or made fall repeatedly onto the "pyramid". This was done so torturers could acquire vital information from the victim. If he or she refused to talk, the torturer would either add more weight to the victim or make him or her fall repeatedly on the device.

Jesus.Crazy days.Crazy people.
 

Red Squirrel

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Yeah that Judas Cradle is another pretty crazy one. They had all sorts back then.

Skinning alive or death by a thousand cuts would be brutal too. Humans are monsters.
 

Darwin333

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You had to remember the size of those Amazonian executioners:


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All I can say is as painful as that looks I really hope that he didn't have an erection when that happened. If he did he can just hang his boning days up.
 

Darwin333

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Yeah that Judas Cradle is another pretty crazy one. They had all sorts back then.

Skinning alive or death by a thousand cuts would be brutal too. Humans are monsters.

I was actually flayed alive from molten roofing asphalt and although it's the absolute worst pain I could ever even imagine if I absolutely had to choose between that and the Judas Cradle, I'd go with the flaying. But yeah, they did all suck back then. I read that before they would draw and quarter you they castrated your ass and burned your bits in front of you, I guess just for shits and giggles? Once you castrate my ass you aren't getting any more information out of me so I don't see what sort of "tactical" advantage it could have.