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So typical - the side that claims the other guy 'wants to destroy them', is the destroyer.
Erm, has Iran has explicitly stated their desire to see Israel destroyed. They've used their ME puppets to further that goal as well.

Are you actually trying to claim that Israel has no right to defend itself?
 

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So typical - the side that claims the other guy 'wants to destroy them', is the destroyer.

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1967????? It lasted about 6 days. Remember that? Who attacked who from all sides? You are right in a sense. They tried to destroy Israel and got destryed in turn. Been going on like that for ages. And after a hundred peace treaties giving land back and such they still not happy. You cant sit forever back and wait till you get bombed then retaliate. They tried that treid everything till enough was enough. No more negotiations nada. Its not about land its about getting the jew out of the middle east simple. Wonder if you lived there what your tune will be. I mean people selling their 12yr kids at a market is sick. Use woman and children as shields because they have 3 other wifes with 3 or 4 other children so they are expendable. Thats sick
 

Whiskey16

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Don't think that Islamic activity is confined only to the Third World. Today, Muslims invade civilized countries under the benign guise of immigration. Their influence in Europe is growing steadily and will continue to do so unopposed until the Europeans finally wake up, although it's hard to tell if they can do it in time to save themselves.

Muslim is one of the biggest religions in the USA! So that propoganda of the US hate Islam doesnt work.
SEIG HEIL!

LiuKangBakinPie, your inciting hatred is among the worst of the worse. A student of Goebbels? I've seen you are on tract in one of the recognised steps to ethnic cleansing and genocide, by attempting to deny a people and nation their rights to an identity -- Palestinians. When will your next post be to compare Muslims to vermin and in need of eradication to protect society?

The Stormfront crowd of AnandTech once again rear its vile ass.

Is this xenophobic anti-Muslim hate tirade as espoused by LiuKangBakinPie the return of a more verbose A777pilot, or an account by Anders Behring Breivik after having regained internet access to rally soldiers to the cause?
 
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SEIG HEIL!

LiuKangBakinPie, your inciting hatred is among the worst of the worse. A student of Goebbels? I've seen you are on tract in one of the recognised steps to ethnic cleansing and genocide, by attempting to deny a people and nation their rights to an identity -- Palestinians. When will your next post be to compare Muslims to vermin and in need of eradication to protect society?

The Stormfront crowd of AnandTech once again rear its vile ass.

Is this xenophobic anti-Muslim hate tirade as espoused by LiuKangBakinPie the return of a more verbose A777pilot, or an account by Anders Behring Breivik after having regained internet access to rally soldiers to the cause?

You just hate it when somebody is correct don`t you?
You are the one who is bringing the Germans into this...so sad!
Everything LiuKangBakinPie says about the Muslims is pretty much spot on!!

The Muslims are one of the few cultures that when they immigrate to a country they want their laws and they want their customs to take precedent.

Thats why Europe is having such problems with the Muslims.
No they don`t want to immigrate and accept the way things are done in a different country...no, no,no...they want to impose their brand of law and their customs.....
IT has already started in the US........
Your only defense is to try to portray Israel as liken NAZI Germany...so sad...
 

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I have no problem with Islam, just don't push that shit on anyone else. Keep it fucking private, just like I don't like Christians pushing their non-sense or Mormons, or anyone. Fuck that noise.
 

janas19

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No they don`t want to immigrate and accept the way things are done in a different country...no, no,no...they want to impose their brand of law and their customs.....
IT has already started in the US.......

Because when the Europeans immigrated to America, they certainly respected the customs of the Native Americans. Right? Right.

If you want to be consistent in your hatred for immigrants who don't respect the customs, you should boycott Thanksgiving.
 

JEDIYoda

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Because when the Europeans immigrated to America, they certainly respected the customs of the Native Americans. Right? Right. -- NO!! Muslim immigrants over time try to impose their Muslim traditions and Laws in Europe and the United States!!

If you want to be consistent in your hatred for immigrants who don't respect the customs, you should boycott Thanksgiving.
Are you IN 3RD grade or what? Thanksgiving has nothing to do with this discussion...now run along little kid and read what has been said...all the posts...

Are you an idiot or what?

Did you even read what I said?

Was I talking about European immigrants?? Nooo!!
Was I talking about Muslims who have immigrated to European countries and to the United States? YES!!!!

Sadly there are all kinds of examples to support what I am saying.....Muslim women wearing head garments that cover the face....who want a license to drive in France....
Muslim who want Shira Law in other countries and the list can go on and on.....

Even in the US........but you should be able to read for yourself...


We also have Britian having Muslim issues.....


YES -- The Europeans did respect the customs....
But sadly that is NOT the case when it comes to Muslim immigrants......
 
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Because when the Europeans immigrated to America, they certainly respected the customs of the Native Americans. Right? Right. -- NO!! Muslim immigrants over time try to impose their Muslim traditions and Laws in Europe and the United States!!

If you want to be consistent in your hatred for immigrants who don't respect the customs, you should boycott Thanksgiving.
Are you IN 3RD grade or what? Thanksgiving has nothing to do with this discussion...now run along little kid and read what has been said...all the posts...

Are you an idiot or what?

Did you even read what I said?

Was I talking about European immigrants?? Nooo!!
Was I talking about Muslims who have immigrated to European countries and to the United states? YES!!!!

YES -- The Europeans did respect the customs....
But sadly that is NOT the case when it comes to Muslim immigrants......

My problem is not Muslim wanting what they want...its when they try to push their nonsense on others...
 

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1967????? It lasted about 6 days. Remember that? Who attacked who from all sides?
It wasn't a matter of being attacked from all sides, but the opening attacks of the Six-Day War was Israel's Opperation Focus:

Operation Focus (Hebrew: מבצע מוקד‎, Mivtza Moked) was the opening airstrike by Israel at the start of the Six-Day War in 1967. It is sometimes referred to as "Sinai Air Strike" since the focus was primarily on airfields around the Sinai Peninsula. At 07:45 on June 5, 1967, the Israeli Air Force (IAF) under Maj. Gen. Mordechai Hod launched a massive airstrike that destroyed the majority of the Egyptian Air Force on the ground. By noon, the Egyptian, Jordanian and Syrian Air Forces, with about 450 aircraft, were destroyed. It was also very successful in disabling 18 airfields in Egypt, hindering Egyptian Air Force operations for the duration of the war.
Hence the reason the war only lasted 6 days; Israel demarcated Arab Air Forces while they were sitting on the ground, insuring absolute air supremacy throughout the war. Granted, I'm sure that isn't the answer you are hopping for, but it is the facts of history all the same.
 

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Erm, has Iran has explicitly stated their desire to see Israel destroyed. They've used their ME puppets to further that goal as well.

Are you actually trying to claim that Israel has no right to defend itself?

No, they haven't. That's a lie debunked many times here. They want to see the state of Israel gone.

Then again, the US has said its policy is 'regime change' in many ocuntries, hasn't it?

Iran's defending *itself* as well - unfortunately with the murderous ally of Syria now. That's how these conflicts go, they're terrible, bloody, and we should oppose all the war.

Cherry picking is propaganda.
 

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1967mapb.gif

1967????? It lasted about 6 days. Remember that? Who attacked who from all sides? You are right in a sense. They tried to destroy Israel and got destryed in turn. Been going on like that for ages. And after a hundred peace treaties giving land back and such they still not happy. You cant sit forever back and wait till you get bombed then retaliate. They tried that treid everything till enough was enough. No more negotiations nada. Its not about land its about getting the jew out of the middle east simple. Wonder if you lived there what your tune will be. I mean people selling their 12yr kids at a market is sick. Use woman and children as shields because they have 3 other wifes with 3 or 4 other children so they are expendable. Thats sick

I'm not talking about 1967. I'm talking about the country doing any number of things to Iran, acts of war, claiming they're the victim over and over.

How long can that bit of propaganda be used? Kruschev said he'd bury the west - did that give the west unlimited justification for killing Russians for decades to come?

Take a longer Iranian history - unfair oil deal forced on them, their democracy brought down by the US and England replaced with a dictator for decades, a 10 year war with a million casualties and gas weapons used on their schoolchildren the US encouraged and protected the aggressor Saddam in, and much more. THEY'RE THE THREAT!!!!

It's like Tony Soprano raping and murdering a woman and saying it was self-defense.

The 'other side' is far from perfect - but attacking them for desparate measures they take when attacked to justify more attacks is the logic of the barbarian murderer.
 

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I'm not talking about 1967. I'm talking about the country doing any number of things to Iran, acts of war, claiming they're the victim over and over.

How long can that bit of propaganda be used? Kruschev said he'd bury the west - did that give the west unlimited justification for killing Russians for decades to come?

Take a longer Iranian history - unfair oil deal forced on them, their democracy brought down by the US and England replaced with a dictator for decades, a 10 year war with a million casualties and gas weapons used on their schoolchildren the US encouraged and protected the aggressor Saddam in, and much more. THEY'RE THE THREAT!!!!

It's like Tony Soprano raping and murdering a woman and saying it was self-defense.

The 'other side' is far from perfect - but attacking them for desparate measures they take when attacked to justify more attacks is the logic of the barbarian murderer.

So do you support the Iranians getting nuclear weapons for self defense?
 

SamurAchzar

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LiuKangBakinPie, your inciting hatred is among the worst of the worse. A student of Goebbels? I've seen you are on tract in one of the recognised steps to ethnic cleansing and genocide, by attempting to deny a people and nation their rights to an identity -- Palestinians. When will your next post be to compare Muslims to vermin and in need of eradication to protect society?

Sorry, but what's wrong with being anti-Muslim? Can you be anti-Nazi? anti-Communist? So how's being anti-Muslim different? It's not a race. People choose it. You're can't choose whether you're born brown or white, but you can choose whether you are practicing Islam.
 

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No, they haven't. That's a lie debunked many times here. They want to see the state of Israel gone.

While I understand the subtle difference, how do you propose Israel will be gone without the forcible destruction of it? Isreal is not just going to suddenly say "Yeah, you are right, we should go away", then shut down their government, destroy all their weapons, and give all the land to the Palestinians.
 

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It wasn't a matter of being attacked from all sides, but the opening attacks of the Six-Day War was Israel's Opperation Focus:


Hence the reason the war only lasted 6 days; Israel demarcated Arab Air Forces while they were sitting on the ground, insuring absolute air supremacy throughout the war. Granted, I'm sure that isn't the answer you are hopping for, but it is the facts of history all the same.

What country has every fought a battle intending on losing?

Israel could not afford to cede any advantage to the opponents.

As has been demonstrated since the '73 conflict; every time she goes into battle with one hand tied behind her back; more people are injured/killed in the long term.
 

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No, they haven't. That's a lie debunked many times here. They want to see the state of Israel gone.

Then again, the US has said its policy is 'regime change' in many ocuntries, hasn't it?

Iran's defending *itself* as well - unfortunately with the murderous ally of Syria now. That's how these conflicts go, they're terrible, bloody, and we should oppose all the war.

Cherry picking is propaganda.
Iran has stated that they want the Zionist regime destroyed.
If Iran was willing to leave Israel alone; why are they continually supplying arms/funding to those that continually attack Israel.

Iran does not want peace; they want Israel shredded.

Yet the Muslims consider all of Israel to be Zionists due to the government.
That has been confirmed by multiple Muslims here on this board. They do not separate the two, unlike the apologists.

I am not stating that all the Muslims want the destruction of Israel; but that they have no real distinction between the Zionist and Israel as a country.
 

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Israel is the root cause of terrorism in the world and must be wiped off the map.

I wouldn't count targeted assassinations as acts of terrorism. I would consider it an act of war when backed by a country and its agents. When the mafia was killing LEOs in the US it wasn't consider terrorism.
 

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Yet the Muslims consider all of Israel to be Zionists due to the government.
By definition, the state of Israel is in its foundation and particular in its Zionist expansion. The presence and the right of return for Jews are the definitions for Zionism. How Zionism is enacted is what is fairly open to critique.

Sorry, but what's wrong with being anti-Muslim?
What is wrong with members of this forum? All too commonly such regular and blanketed hate speech is tolerated and rarely condemned.

The nearly 100 Norwegians who died for the anti-Palestinian and anti-Muslim cause have taught little for what hatred upon the internet incites and leads to. AnandTech is a regular vehicle for such vile filth.
 
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Craig234

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So do you support the Iranians getting nuclear weapons for self defense?

My first choice is to remove the need they have to get them. Get rid of the west's, implement restrictions on aggressive war that threatens other nations.

After that, it's a choice between two much worse alternatives - further increasing the injustice to Muslims and the march to war with Iran, or nuclear proliferation.

Neither western hegemony - absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely - nor the danger proliferation brings of the use of weapons - is a good choice.
 

SamurAchzar

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What is wrong with members of this forum? All too commonly such regular and blanketed hate speech is tolerated and rarely condemned.

Hate? Where do you see hate? I think it is completely legitimate to oppose and reject Islam just as it is acceptable to oppose and reject Zionism, Capitalism or Nazism. It does not mean I hate anyone. Hate is not rational. My rejection of Islam builds on rational values. It contradicts modern liberal democracy and the values I believe in, and therefore I reject it, just as I reject Nazism.
 

OutHouse

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The part that you probably can't comprehend is that going to war doesn't make you any smarter or better - in fact probably the opposite. If you joined the army because you had no other good options, that's one thing. If you joined because you think shooting guns is cool, that just makes you a tool who is willing to kill for powerful men who couldn't care less if you died or not.

Take a bath hippie.