yet another Iranian scientist killed.

[cybrsage]

craig you know exactly jackshit about war, you've never seen combat and you've never even been in the military, your armchiar commentary is about as useful as a sweatstain on Rosie O'Donnell's ass crack.

I dunno...you should probably remove this part of your post. I think posting such imagery is a bannable offense...

 

[lopri]

You would have thought Jason Born would be a fictional character.

 

[cybrsage]

Iranians are a very nationalistic people (moreso than people in the US about the US), and they take *pride* in being able to do things on their own. It's why they are the most educated, progressive, and forward thinking Muslim nation. Granted, that's not a high perch to be a part of, but nonetheless it's something 🙂

I like the Persians. They are a cut above the Arabs, from a cultural standpoint. Their history is very full of amazing and wonderful things. Islam grabbed them and did something bad to them, but maybe they can pull back out of the abyss and become great again. Who knows.

Just saying that from a "makes sense and is a pretty smart thing to do" type of view, they should have agreed to let Russia process the uranium for them.

 

[bfdd]

I really hope the USA(where my tax dollars go) had no involvement in this. I do not support acts of terrorism.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

I am totally unimpressed by the LieKang link that states, "According to Novaya Gazeta, some 250 nuclear warheads never made it to Russia and are thought to have been sent to Iran instead. The report further noted that the warheads will remain operational until 2010.

So since its now 2012, those bombs have ceased to be operational for two years now.

But the Liukang chicken little still runs around saying the sky is falling, the sky is falling.

But still Iran remains committed to staying inside of IAEA guide lines, maybe Israel would be happier if Iran adopted the Israeli strategy of developing nukes on the sneak by dropping out of the nuclear non proliferation treaty Israel never signed.

And flash news update, IAEA poobahs now claims proof that Iran is committed to developing nuclear weapons with all the validity of former IAEA poobahs who claimed Saddam had WMD's.

First off all its the warhead. They're sell by or use by date is 2010. That doesn't mean the weapon is useless. It just becomes a risk after that due to leakage and other hazards. But if you can change a certain parts you can extend its life span.

Thats a nuclear warhead

Then you get different nuclear bombs. A "salted" nuclear weapon is reminiscent of fission-fusion-fission weapons, but instead of a fissionable jacket around the secondary stage fusion fuel, a non-fissionable blanket of a specially chosen salting isotope is used (cobalt-59 in the case of the cobalt bomb). This blanket captures the escaping fusion neutrons to breed a radioactive isotope that maximizes the fallout hazard from the weapon rather than generating additional explosive force (and dangerous fission fallout) from fast fission of U-238.

Reason why I mention the salted once is because its easiest to make. U-238 most common isotope of uranium found in nature. So nuclear power you can make them.

Then the other thing. Al tough the bobs might be past their sell by date its they still provide one with the knowledge how they were put together. So the big secret that the USA, Russia, North Korea and all the other have you sit with then. You can see how one was build. Countries don't tell each other how to make one nor will sell it easily because you might be on the receiving end of it. Now why do you think the intellegence forces of the US and Israel were trying to slow them down with Stuxnet

They knew they gained knowledge how to build one.
Countries that have signed the treaty as Non-Nuclear Weapons States and maintained that status have an unbroken record of not building nuclear weapons. Until Iraq, North Korea and Iran broke the treaties. A obligation is to report. Iran was found in non-compliance with its NPT safeguards obligations in an unusual non-consensus decision because it "failed in a number of instances over an extended period of time" to report aspects of its enrichment program. So they suddenly stopped reporting. They broke the treaty.

Now you saying my sources can't be trusted read again

"On Monday, Russia's Novaya Gazeta newspaper reported

Its a russian newspaper that broke the story. Not Israeli RUSSIAN!

This is what the Russian Government said

"Responding to the report, Gen. Yuri Baluyevsky, Russia's deputy defense minister and the chief of General Staff, said, 'Russia's General Staff has no information about whether Ukraine has given 250 nuclear warheads to Iran or not.'

"It is impossible to assess the accuracy of the report. The Ukrainian government has dismissed its allegations. Russia may well have invented the story to shift media attention away from the growing awareness that Russian support for Teheran, Damascus and Hamas effectively places it in the enemy camp in the US-led war against global jihad.

You think its fabricated. On a Jihad website it reported the same story.
Here


The Ukranians don't have all their Nuclear weapons or can't say what happened to the missing ones. And they are not going to say either.

Thats where Intellegence of the countries come in to trace such a links and believe you me someone will talk behind closed doors which we wont hear about. The press is just a waterdrop. Three quarters of the stuff going one in the world they don't know about.

This is what the Jihad do to their own people who is accused of working with Israel. Working talking to a jew.

A Palestinian man is suspected by local Arab terrorists of working for Israel. No trial, no defense, no democratic due process.......the man's body is simply riddled with bullets! Palestinian children are reminded in no uncertain terms of what happens to those who work for peace with the Jews.

The body is dragged through the streets of Bethlehem by a pickup truck (probably one stolen from Israel).

The body is hung up by the ankles for public display near the Palestinian Ministry of Tourism and then degutted... all of this directly across from the entrance of the Church of the Nativity, the birthplace of Jesus.

No truly democratic, civilized country would ever tolerate such acts of primitive hatred, incitement and violence. Yet many people in the world media continue to compare and equate Israeli defensive actions against such Arab-Palestinian barbarism on the same level.

March 2004
Spain Goes BOOM!

July 2005
England Goes BOOM!

Oct/Nov 2005
France Goes BOOM!
Feb 2006
Belgium Goes BOOM!

An estimated 35-50 million Muslims live in Europe and their birthrate is 3 times higher than the non-Muslim population. Madrid, London and Paris.

First the Saturday People...

The Muslims have a saying: "First [destroy] the Saturday People (Jews)... then the Sunday People (Christians)." And when the Muslims tire of killing or converting non-Muslims, they go after other Muslims! The ten-year Iran-Iraq War resulting in the deaths of over one million deserving Muslims was said to have been fought over a land dispute. This is not entirely true for the underlying hatred between two conflicting views of Islam was the major spark that ignited this conflict.

Islam in Europe Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI5WoXpmPiM

The Trouble With Islam Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhN6CG1zCRc&mode=related&search=

There seems to be no end to the limitless supply of willing Jihadist martyrs volunteering into the service of Allah. In the Israeli/Arab-Palestinian conflict alone, Muslim children rush forward to confront Israeli soldiers (guarding Jewish settlements) with rocks, Molotov Cocktails, iron bars... all in the name of Islam. Summer camps for Palestinian children teach not how to sing and play but rather how to fire automatic weapons and properly strap dynamite onto their chests! They are taught a hatred of Jews and a love of death... right from the cradle! Click HERE for "Seeds of Hatred" Audio/Video

FROM THE KORAN ITSELF...
"HEIL HITLER" Now Upgraded to "ALLAH AKBAR?"

You may already know about this one: O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. [al-Ma'idah 5:51.11]

But did you know that there are 123 verses in the Quran concerning fighting and killing for the cause of Allah? Here are but a few passages:

-Muslims are encouraged to be wholly occupied (Sura 2:273) with fighting for Allah's cause.

- Allah will give "a far richer recompense to those who fight for him" (Sura 4:96).

- Regarding infidels (unbelievers), they are the Muslim's "inveterate enemies" (Sura 4:101). Muslims are to "arrest them, besiege them and lie in ambush everywhere" (Sura 9:5) for them. They are to "seize them and put them to death wherever you find them, kill them wherever you find them, seek out the enemies of Islam relentlessly" (Sura 4:90). "Fight them until Islam reigns supreme" (Sura 2:193). "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers" (Sura 8:12).

- If a Muslim does not go to war, Allah will kill him (Sura 9:39). He is to be told, "the heat of war is fierce, but more fierce is the heat of Hell-fire" (Sura 9:81).

- A Muslim must "fight for the cause of Allah with the devotion due to him" (Sura 22:78)

- Muslims must make war on the infidels (unbelievers) who live around them (Sura 9:123).

- Muslims are to be "ruthless to unbelievers" (Sura 48:29).

- A Muslim should "enjoy the good things" he has gained by fighting (Sura 8:69).

- A Muslim can kill any person he wishes if it be a "just cause" (Sura 6:152).

- Allah loves those who "fight for his cause" (Sura 61:3).
Anyone who fights against Allah or renounces Islam in favor of another religion shall be "put to death or crucified or have their hands and feet cut off alternative sides" (Sura 5:34).

- Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him. Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57)

- Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. (Koran 9:5)

- Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. (Koran 69:30-37)

- I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them. (Koran 8:12)

- They should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides. (Koran 5:33)

- Know that paradise is under the shades of swords. Sahih al-Bukhari Vol 4 p55

Speaking of Paradise...

"There will be "gushing fountains" and everyone "shall recline on jeweled couches face to face, and there shall wait on them immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a cup of purest wine." Suras (or chapters) 55 and 56 of the Quran.

"Therein are bashful virgins whom neither man nor jinnee will have touched before ... virgins as fair as corals and rubies," sura 55. A few lines later, you might remind them of "virgins chaste and fair ... they shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets."

"The smallest reward for the people of Paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sana'a.'"

It will be the day, God willing, you spend with the women of paradise...Know that the gardens of paradise are waiting for you in all their beauty, and the women of paradise are waiting, calling out, "Come hither, friend of God."

Do you know what paradise is? Putting 12 year old virgins at a market for the men to choose from and to take as his slave they call it wife.

So do you think the US and Israel is doing it because they try and force their believes on them?

Don't think that Islamic activity is confined only to the Third World. Today, Muslims invade civilized countries under the benign guise of immigration. Their influence in Europe is growing steadily and will continue to do so unopposed until the Europeans finally wake up, although it's hard to tell if they can do it in time to save themselves. In fact, immigration accounted for 89 percent of Europe’s population growth during the 1990s!

Muslim is one of the biggest religions in the USA! So that propoganda of the US hate Islam doesnt work. For Israel well after 60 years of fighting they finally realized there is no peace nor end game. Jidah wont stop till every Israeli citizen is wiped from the middle east and those who take comfort with them will be beaten to death and hanged in the public like a barbaric fashion.
If you are raised with the believe to exterminate certain groups you will never settle for peace.

But the Liukang chicken little still runs around saying the sky is falling, the sky is falling.

I am not the one doing guerrilla tactics and hide behind children or hide in caves like cowards.

 

[Patranus]

On the one hand, this is a great victory in the cold war against Iran.
One the other hand I am not sure how much freedom the scientists in Iran have to work on projects of their choosing.

 

[Darwin333]

For as long as he's the one protecting you with his life and not the other way around, he IS the better man. Whatever you think of the cause or the politics around the war, for as long as someone puts his life on the line, the least you could do is to show your appreciation.

He didn't say he did it for the "cause" or the politics around the war, or to protect his or anyone else. He said he did it for "shits and giggles". Anyone that kills purely for "shits and giggles" is deranged, I don't give a damn who they happen to be fighting for or against.

Personally, I think anyone that thinks or supports killing people purely for "shits and giggles" should be studied cold.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

You have to admit though -- MOSSAD is good!!! How did they do that??? hmmmm

Nazi Germany was pretty good at accomplishing their goals too, at least for a time.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Nazi Germany was pretty good at accomplishing their goals too, at least for a time.

Actually since you brought up the subject of the NAZI`s...they were not even close to being as efficient as MOSSAD!!

The NAZI`s were not even trained compared to MOSSAD.
There is noway you can honestly in good concience make any truthful comparison....but you being HamburgerBoy explains it all!!



Yet since you so flipantly like to compare Iarael to the Nazi`s lets cimpare MOSSAD to the NAZI`s --
The Mossad (Hebrew: המוסד‎, Arabic: الموساد&#8206😉, short for HaMossad leModi'in uleTafkidim Meyuchadim (Institute for Intelligence and Special Operations) (Hebrew: המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎ Arabic: الموساد للاستخبارات والمهام الخاصة‎ al-Mōsād lil-Istiḫbārāt wal-Mahāmm al-Ḫāṣṣah), is the national intelligence agency of Israel.

The Mossad is responsible for intelligence collection and covert operations which are suspected to include targeted killings and paramilitary activities beyond Israel's borders, bringing Jews to Israel from countries where official Aliyah agencies are forbidden, and protecting Jewish communities worldwide. It is one of the main entities in the Israeli Intelligence Community, along with Aman (military intelligence) and Shin Bet (internal security), but its director reports directly to the Prime Minister.

There is more -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossad

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Actually since you brought up the subject of the NAZI`s...they were not even close to being as efficient as MOSSAD!!

The NAZI`s were not even trained compared to MOSSAD.
There is noway you can honestly in good concience make any truthful comparison....but you being HamburgerBoy explains it all!!



Yet since you so flipantly like to compare Iarael to the Nazi`s lets cimpare MOSSAD to the NAZI`s --
The Mossad (Hebrew: המוסד‎, Arabic: الموساد&#8206😉, short for HaMossad leModi'in uleTafkidim Meyuchadim (Institute for Intelligence and Special Operations) (Hebrew: המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎ Arabic: الموساد للاستخبارات والمهام الخاصة‎ al-Mōsād lil-Istiḫbārāt wal-Mahāmm al-Ḫāṣṣah), is the national intelligence agency of Israel.

The Mossad is responsible for intelligence collection and covert operations which are suspected to include targeted killings and paramilitary activities beyond Israel's borders, bringing Jews to Israel from countries where official Aliyah agencies are forbidden, and protecting Jewish communities worldwide. It is one of the main entities in the Israeli Intelligence Community, along with Aman (military intelligence) and Shin Bet (internal security), but its director reports directly to the Prime Minister.

There is more -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossad

Come to think of it, Mossad was more efficient at killing scientists. Even Hitler had the decency to allow the most prodigious German Jewish scientists of the 1930's to flee their country to continue their research. Israel is a case of a foreign country assassinating other scientists. My apologies.

 

[kylebisme]

Well someone has to kill, for you and Craig to sit comfortably in your homes and scatter your intellectual trash that advocates the nuclear proliferation of Muslim mullahs.

I'm a advocate of peaceful uses of nuclear power for all, and nuclear weapons for none, and nobody in my lifetime had to be killed for my protection. I'm pretty sure the same goes for Craig at least on the latter, which you seem at least somewhat aware of based on your reaching back to WWII for such a war in your more recent post.

I'm just happy he found the joy in it, as for others it can lead to a life long trauma.

So have you ever killed anyone yourself, or are you just another armchair warrior here?

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Nazi Germany was pretty good at accomplishing their goals too, at least for a time.

11 million dead so yes they were. thats humans btw 6mil jews 5million from other backgrounds. So your piss in your own face as well

 

[cybrsage]

The nuclear weapons race was a vital one to win in WW2, that much is definately true. Their use in WW2 saved a LOT of lives, so it was good to use them.

After that, they are simply a drain on resources. Sadly, since the genie is out of the bottle, we have to keep them around if only to anhilliate any nation that uses them again.

 

[janas19]

The nuclear weapons race was a vital one to win in WW2, that much is definately true. Their use in WW2 saved a LOT of lives, so it was good to use them.

After that, they are simply a drain on resources. Sadly, since the genie is out of the bottle, we have to keep them around if only to anhilliate any nation that uses them again.

I've got a better idea: how about if we build strong diplomatic ties with other nations, so that we don't have to enact a nuclear fallout?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Not sure why anyone would kill an Iranian nuclear scientist. After all, Iran is not pursuing nuclear weapons. Their nuclear ambitions are purely for peaceful purposes. Ahmadinejad said so.

 

[schneiderguy]

Iran has the same right to have nuclear weapons as Israel or any other country does.

I can't believe people actually think it's OK to go around killing foreign nationals that have done nothing to harm your country.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Come to think of it, Mossad was more efficient at killing scientists. Even Hitler had the decency to allow the most prodigious German Jewish scientists of the 1930's to flee their country to continue their research.---actually you are totally wrong!! Most of the scientist who fled there country were wanted by Hitler ans the SS...most of them simply had help in leaving!! Israel is a case of a foreign country assassinating other scientists. My apologies.

As was stated by somebody else -- 11 million dead so yes they were. thats humans btw 6mil jews 5million from other backgrounds. So your piss in your own face as well

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Iran has the same right to have nuclear weapons as Israel or any other country does.

I can't believe people actually think it's OK to go around killing foreign nationals that have done nothing to harm your country.

Who killed him?

 

[schneiderguy]

Who killed him?

I think it's pretty obvious who killed him.

People don't just randomly get car bombed :hmm:

 

[Karl Agathon]

James Bond?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Iran has the same right to have nuclear weapons as Israel or any other country does.

I can't believe people actually think it's OK to go around killing foreign nationals that have done nothing to harm your country.

Truthfully, no nation has a "right" to have nuclear weapons.

And if Iran did have such a right then it seems Israel would also have the right, since Iran is an avowed enemy that has expressed a desire to destroy them, to prevent Iran from obtaining them.

 

[janas19]

Who killed him?

I think it must be connected to the same people who moved an aircraft carrier into the region. Just a guess.

 

[the DRIZZLE]

Iran has the same right to have nuclear weapons as Israel or any other country does.

I can't believe people actually think it's OK to go around killing foreign nationals that have done nothing to harm your country.

That view is a bit naive. Iran has been waging war on Israel through it's proxies for quite a while.

 

[Craig234]

Truthfully, no nation has a "right" to have nuclear weapons.

And if Iran did have such a right then it seems Israel would also have the right, since Iran is an avowed enemy that has expressed a desire to destroy them, to prevent Iran from obtaining them.

So typical - the side that claims the other guy 'wants to destroy them', is the destroyer.

 

[gingermeggs]

If Iran would start assassinating Israel's strategic scientists, I wonder how fast it will be considered an act of war and give seal of approval for US/NATO to invade Iran

What about killing the innocent; more cost effective-
don't kill the scientist, kill his children in front of him and then make him and his wife, then drink the blood of their own children by force.
I believe that would work!
Love the hate!!!!!