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Yet another fast food worker strike

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Obama's spending is massive, un-precedented. It was he that socialized medicine.

Is this what you are calling attention to?

He gives little to no shit about normal people.

-John
 
Sorry, didn't realize English was your second language.

YOU, ARE A MESS. YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND PEOPLE OR LIFE.

-John
 
Yep, my bad, I didn't follow his scentence. Small screens will do that to you.

Now that I understand what you wrote, please feel free to answer my original question and if you think Obama socialized medicine, you are dumber than I thought.
 
Meh, considering how the very rich have, by leaps and bounds, economically outpaced the middle class and the poor for decades in the past, now in the present and into the foreseeable future, it wouldn't hurt to have the middle class and the poor catch up a little, now would it? A bump in the minimum wage nationwide would be a good place to start. But I guess that's too much to ask of the rich and powerful. They like things just the way they are, and it seems they are willing to spend millions and millions more to further corrupt our politicians to see things their way, and their way only. How is it that the very rich can keep on getting richer and richer without increasing costs, yet moderately raising the wage lines of the working class will magically and immediately increase costs and send businesses down the drain? Some kind of magic indeed.

I mean, all I've been hearing from the Conservative Congress folks for years and years now is the absolute disgust and outrage they've been hissing on about every time a bump in the minimum wage gets mentioned. Yet, fight they will with tenacity and fervor for cutting taxes and poking more and more loopholes in the tax code for the rich, all the while promising trickle down prosperity (lol) and "damn you poor, get some personal responsibility (and never mind that our aim is to drive you further and further down the hole, right where we want you and need you)".
 
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It's your Government, Obama, in power now, and beyond spending money that puts all these people "you care for" in further debt, he has and will do nothing other than to increase the pressure on normal people.

Yes we KNOW we can't make a living doing McDonalds... THAT's why we are striking!

Obama, Democrats! You pieces of shit!

-John
 
Zorkorist said:
It's your Government, Obama, in power now, and beyond spending money that puts all these people "you care for" in further debt, he has and will do nothing other than to increase the pressure on normal people.

Yes we KNOW we can't make a living doing McDonalds... THAT's why we are striking!

Obama, Democrats! You pieces of shit!

-John
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What do the neighbours think of your inexhaustible supply of Yoda impressions?
 
Zorkorist said:
Obama's spending is massive, un-precedented. It was he that socialized medicine.

Is this what you are calling attention to?

He gives little to no shit about normal people.

-John
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And BTW, please do not bring up socialized or nationalized medicine. I don't feel like getting into anther 10 page discussion of how control doesn't mean what it says it means.
 
ivwshane said:
I'd say probably all of them if we look at history as any indicator.
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Okay, let's do a quick informal poll of ATPNers.
Assumption: The minimum wage is raised over a two year period to YOUR wage. Your response is:
1. I'm fine with my economic buying power being exactly the same as that of a burger flipper; it's only fair.
2. I would demand more money to restore my economic buying power advantage in recognition of my skills and hard work.

ATPN, what say you?
 
werepossum said:
Okay, let's do a quick informal poll of ATPNers.
Assumption: The minimum wage is raised over a two year period to YOUR wage. Your response is:
1. I'm fine with my economic buying power being exactly the same as that of a burger flipper; it's only fair.
2. I would demand more money to restore my economic buying power advantage in recognition of my skills and hard work.

ATPN, what say you?
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2. Rising tide lifts all boats.
 
senseamp said:
2. Rising tide lifts all boats.
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Agreed. If is a tide of increased productivity, then everyone has more wealth. If it's tide of increased pay only, then everyone makes more money - and real purchasing power remains exactly the same. That is inflation.
 
werepossum said:
Okay, let's do a quick informal poll of ATPNers.
Assumption: The minimum wage is raised over a two year period to YOUR wage. Your response is:
1. I'm fine with my economic buying power being exactly the same as that of a burger flipper; it's only fair.
2. I would demand more money to restore my economic buying power advantage in recognition of my skills and hard work.

ATPN, what say you?
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It's been #2 throughout history or else we would all have been making minimum wage for a long time.
 
werepossum said:
Agreed. If is a tide of increased productivity, then everyone has more wealth. If it's tide of increased pay only, then everyone makes more money - and real purchasing power remains exactly the same. That is inflation.
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There literally is no point in discussing this with someone who genuinely believes that 1:1 parity will be restored, leaving us back at the same point we started at.
 
werepossum said:
Okay, let's do a quick informal poll of ATPNers.
Assumption: The minimum wage is raised over a two year period to YOUR wage. Your response is:
1. I'm fine with my economic buying power being exactly the same as that of a burger flipper; it's only fair.
2. I would demand more money to restore my economic buying power advantage in recognition of my skills and hard work.

ATPN, what say you?
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Or, more likely,

3. Something somewhere in between
 
werepossum said:
Agreed. If is a tide of increased productivity, then everyone has more wealth. If it's tide of increased pay only, then everyone makes more money - and real purchasing power remains exactly the same. That is inflation.
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The productivity has increased for decades without corresponding increase in purchasing power for the workers. Time for the everyone has more wealth part. Just think of it as accelerated trickle down, if it makes you feel better. Inflation would imply that there is no slack in production capacity. That is clearly not the case. Economy is limited by demand, not supply of goods. Boosting pay for people most likely to spend it to improve their quality of life will grow the economy.
 
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Veliko said:
There literally is no point in discussing this with someone who genuinely believes that 1:1 parity will be restored, leaving us back at the same point we started at.
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That's a hell of a lot more logical than those who think robbing Peter to pay Paul is better for the economy.
 
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