Yet another fast food worker strike

[WackyDan]

I think this is less of a problem than you think. According to the stats I found in a quick search almost 80% of people on welfare had two or fewer kids. If you're talking about the percentage of the population that sits around on TANF all day it's pretty exceedingly small.

Post them. I already posted two articles about how those in poverty have a higher birth rate than those with more means. One was even from ThinkProgress... You should like that.

 

[nehalem256]

So it's the woman's fault if the man buggers off?

How many women in poverty were previously married to the father of their children who then "buggered off"?

If he won't commit to you why would you think he would commit to you and your child?

Also I don't know if I would call the baby daddy being put in prison "buggering off". http://www.npr.org/2012/07/11/155103593/to-beat-odds-poor-single-moms-need-wide-safety-net

 

[fskimospy]

Post them. I already posted two articles about how those in poverty have a higher birth rate than those with more means. One was even from ThinkProgress... You should like that.

I'd have to go back and find them, but there's no disagreement here. People in poverty do have more children than those out of it, but the US as a whole only barely averages 2 children per woman as it is and that includes people in poverty. Middle class families are averaging less than 2 per woman.

Actually, I don't like partisan sources regardless of their leaning.

 

[Knowing]

It's interesting to me that you were convinced that others were wrong 'at great cost' without even so much as a data point.

So what you're saying is that subsidies have no cost?

If they were already intending that, recruitment would be unnecessary.

They were recruited for participation in the study. If they had consumed the birth control that was available for free they wouldn't need to participate, would they?

I'm glad to see you agree with me. Hopefully that means the number of times you'll be wrong about this topic in the future will be fewer due to this.

I didn't agree with you, but I see that the probability that you will assume that your incorrect assumptions will be agreed with despite no data is rapidly approaching 1. Given that you haven't ever been right, I'd think a rational person would update their assumptions.

The no-cost birth control mandate for the ACA went fully into effect almost exactly nine months ago.

Presumably you can see the problem with doing studies on births and pregnancy in that window.

Not my problem.

 

[fskimospy]

So what you're saying is that subsidies have no cost?

Clearly not. I would suggest re-reading what I wrote. This is particularly important for someone who so frequently complains about people misconstruing what he writes, don't you think?

They were recruited for participation in the study. If they had consumed the birth control that was available for free they wouldn't need to participate, would they?

That certainly makes your statement that they were already planning on limiting their pregnancies dubious, doesn't it.

I didn't agree with you, but I see that the probability that you will assume that your incorrect assumptions will be agreed with despite no data is rapidly approaching 1. Given that you haven't ever been right, I'd think a rational person would update their assumptions.

It's not my fault you said something stupid and were called on it. Lashing out childishly won't change that.

Not my problem.

Unless the ACA no-cost birth control is some kind of special Obama birth control that's different than what they normally give out it's not my problem either. lol.

 

[IGBT]

give them their raise!! so ALL you Taco Bell goobers can pay $8.00 for your mystery meat Taco.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

give them their raise!! so ALL you Taco Bell goobers can pay $8.00 for your mystery meat Taco.

Back to the subject at hand, I honestly don't have a problem with them striking and trying to get more money. I personally don't think that job is worth $15/hr and they're at risk of pricing themselves out of jobs due to automation, but good luck to them and more power to them.

 

[Pneumothorax]

I'd have to go back and find them, but there's no disagreement here. People in poverty do have more children than those out of it, but the US as a whole only barely averages 2 children per woman as it is and that includes people in poverty. Middle class families are averaging less than 2 per woman.

Actually, I don't like partisan sources regardless of their leaning.

Oh yeah, we're well on our way to Idiocracy.

 

[bradly1101]

Until the average worker gets paid more to be able to make more and bigger purchases, our consumer-driven economy will falter. We're shooting ourselves in the foot.

 

[IGBT]

Until the average worker gets paid more to be able to make more and bigger purchases, our consumer-driven economy will falter. We're shooting ourselves in the foot.

for most of the FF workers there is no other jobs so they do what their liberal arts degree will get them.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Sorta like the protesters that are getting arrested and cited for civil disobedience are shooting themselves in the foot. Do they think a judge will let them off without a fine?

 

[BoberFett]

Until the average worker gets paid more to be able to make more and bigger purchases, our consumer-driven economy will falter. We're shooting ourselves in the foot.

Because clearly the answer to our problems is Buy More Shit.

Yeah, that sounds sustainable. Let's keep creating new bubbles to make sure it hurts more every time it pops.

 

[theeedude]

Sorta like the protesters that are getting arrested and cited for civil disobedience are shooting themselves in the foot. Do they think a judge will let them off without a fine?

I don't think you completely understand the concept of civil disobedience.

 

[Victorian Gray]

If only there was a way to have as much sex as you wanted and still be 100% guaranteed not to have a child :hmm:

Isn't that why you turned to toasters?

 

[theeedude]

Because clearly the answer to our problems is Buy More Shit.

Yeah, that sounds sustainable. Let's keep creating new bubbles to make sure it hurts more every time it pops.

Working people being able to afford a decent life style is not a bubble. If we can improve overall quality of life and grow the economic pie with a better income distribution, that's what we should pursue through economic policy.

 

[Greenman]

Give them the $15 an hour, add a buck to the cost of a big mac. The working folks get more money, and a whole bunch of people might eat fewer big macs, that's a win win deal.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I don't think you completely understand the concept of civil disobedience.

I fully understand the concept, I also fully understand the concept of being help accountable in a court of law for violating the law. I also understand the concept of having to post bond to be released from jail after being arrested.

It's all good if they choose to spend their money paying for fines and release bonds if they so choose. It's no skin off of my back.

 

[BoberFett]

Working people being able to afford a decent life style is not a bubble. If we can improve overall quality of life and grow the economic pie with a better income distribution, that's what we should pursue through economic policy.

Right, because the billions of starving people in the world - and I mean actually starving, not "poor" morbidly obese Americans who says they're starving because they haven't had a cheeseburger in almost two hours - aren't going to be competing for the same resources we are...

LOL, you actually believe we can consume more than we already do. It doesn't matter who has the USD when it comes to consumption. The wealthy might control 80% of the USD, but the poor consume vastly more than the rich. When it comes to consumption, the mere fact that the poor and middle class outnumber the wealthy by several orders of magnitude means they are already consuming vastly more than the wealthy. Some rich guy driving a Maybach isn't even on the same consumption scale as the 1,000,000 Chevys and Toyotas that the 99% drive. Taking money from the CEO you hate and spreading it around doesn't mean that his not buying a yacht will mean that 1,000,000 people can now buy a little boat. Spreading the USD around CANNOT increase consumption much more than the 99% already consume. Scarcity is a real thing, no matter what idiot leftist dogma you believe.

 

[BoberFett]

Give them the $15 an hour, add a buck to the cost of a big mac. The working folks get more money, and a whole bunch of people might eat fewer big macs, that's a win win deal.

Ensuring that McDonald's lays people off because their revenues are falling.

Simple solutions for simple minds, that's the left in action.

 

[theeedude]

I fully understand the concept, I also fully understand the concept of being help accountable in a court of law for violating the law. I also understand the concept of having to post bond to be released from jail after being arrested.

It's all good if they choose to spend their money paying for fines and release bonds if they so choose. It's no skin off of my back.

I know it's shocking to you that civil disobedience involves voluntarily accepting the legal risks.

 

[theeedude]

Right, because the billions of starving people in the world - and I mean actually starving, not "poor" morbidly obese Americans who says they're starving because they haven't had a cheeseburger in almost two hours - aren't going to be competing for the same resources we are...

LOL, you actually believe we can consume more than we already do. It doesn't matter who has the USD when it comes to consumption. The wealthy might control 80% of the USD, but the poor consume vastly more than the rich. When it comes to consumption, the mere fact that the poor and middle class outnumber the wealthy by several orders of magnitude means they are already consuming vastly more than the wealthy. Some rich guy driving a Maybach isn't even on the same consumption scale as the 1,000,000 Chevys and Toyotas that the 99% drive. Taking money from the CEO you hate and spreading it around doesn't mean that his not buying a yacht will mean that 1,000,000 people can now buy a little boat. Spreading the USD around CANNOT increase consumption much more than the 99% already consume. Scarcity is a real thing, no matter what idiot leftist dogma you believe.

You got something against working Americans making enough to buy a Chevy or a boat? You seem genuinely upset that they aren't "actually starving."

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I know it's shocking to you that civil disobedience involves voluntarily accepting the legal risks.

So when they don't get the raise to $15/hr or any raise whatsoever I hope they enjoy their severe lack of funds to do anything.

 

[theeedude]

So when they don't get the raise to $15/hr or any raise whatsoever I hope they enjoy their severe lack of funds to do anything.

I know you will enjoy it, you made it abundantly clear.

 

[BoberFett]

You got something against working Americans making enough to buy a Chevy or a boat? You seem genuinely upset that they aren't "actually starving."

You don't have any clue what you just read, do you?

Typical idiot leftist. Go eat your cheap lettuce, idiot.

 

[Greenman]

Ensuring that McDonald's lays people off because their revenues are falling.

Simple solutions for simple minds, that's the left in action.

I'm pretty far from the left. But I am a business owner with a payroll and employees that depend on me for their pay check every week. So I understand a little bit about labor costs.
The cost increase will be across the board, so all fast food will cost more, no one company will bear the brunt of the increase. My guess is that most people eating at these places aren't going to be hurt by the price increase. For those that will suffer from it, they shouldn't be eating out anyway, they can't afford it. If a few locations have to shut down, they must be in a seriously poverty stricken area and teetering on the brink anyway.