Yet another fast food worker strike

[WackyDan]

To be honest, 6-figures is my ideal salary for my intense workload. I have analyzed the situation and have come to the conclusion that it is a fair assessment. At this point, I believe an automatic raise to that amount (regardless of people that currently worked to that amount) is a fair settlement, with no further work on my part.

In order to have this motion passed, I will continue to no longer work my agreed upon salary contract terms. I will sit outside of my office building while chanting that my employer does unfair practices, hold up insulting signs, and distribute flyers to passing pedestrians. Many of which, will probably be somewhat sketchy in truth and/or lies. All of this seems like a completely legitimate argument, without a doubt. I'm sure everyone agee's :sneaky:

No... No... You are doing it wrong. Please let my political action group whisper in your ear first to get the ball rolling. we'll show you how to lose your job... ERRR... strike for higher pay.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

yes, you are correct. instead of starting you at minimum wage, they start you $1.00 above minimum wage. big jump there dude.

You gotta start somewhere dude. If you started climbing the ladder 8 years ago instead of sitting on your ass for 10 years you would be somewhere. Instead, you sat on your ass expecting the money to come to your hand. That's not how the world works.

There are 2 types of workers that fast food restaurants want out of workers

#1 - Hard workers. This is rare, but when it is there - you have opportunities for advancement, management positions, etc..

#2 - LOW TURNOVER - That is EXACTLY what this case is. The dumb bitch was working there for 10 years straight. Regardless of how shitty of an employee they are, fast food LOOOOVES not having to interview/switch employee's every 3 months. It doesn't take much to go nextdoor to Burger King for 5 minutes after your shift to try and start getting raises.

 

[nehalem256]

No... No... You are doing it wrong. Please let my political action group whisper in your ear first to get the ball rolling. we'll show you how to lose your job... ERRR... strike for higher pay.

If it wasn't true how could they print it on a shirt?

 

[WackyDan]

What was the point of this little story? Are you agreeing or disagreeing with this part of what I said:





Again: regardless of their socio-economic status people are going to have sex and they're going to have children. They always have done and they always will.

I don't know what you are even debating. People get pregnant. Responsible people every day assess their risk and take measures to mitigate that... Some with condoms, some with the pill, some get their tubes tied and some actually don't have sex.

If you are in poverty you can make that choice to not bring another child into the world. In fact you should be making it a priority not too versus someone of greater means. What don't you get about that argument?

 

[Veliko]

I don't know what you are even debating. People get pregnant. Responsible people every day assess their risk and take measures to mitigate that... Some with condoms, some with the pill, some get their tubes tied and some actually don't have sex.

If you are in poverty you can make that choice to not bring another child into the world. In fact you should be making it a priority not too versus someone of greater means. What don't you get about that argument?

The fact that it's completely unrealistic.

 

[brandonb]

The fact that it's completely unrealistic.

How is it unrealistic? Everybody else on the planet can seem to figure it out. Why can't people in poverty? Are they just unable or unwilling?

 

[shira]

Except that Democrats are working to ensure there is a flood of low skill workers so this wont happen.

Except that it was the right that led the effort to reduce/eliminate student grants and tax support for state universities, thereby making higher education more and more unaffordable for the masses.

Seems like the right - not the left - wants more low-skilled workers, dumbass.

 

[Veliko]

How is it unrealistic? Everybody else on the planet can seem to figure it out. Why can't people in poverty? Are they just unable or unwilling?

Everybody else does what? Refrains from having sex? Refrains from having children?

Whichever one you're going with here you're living in cloud cuckoo land.

 

[fskimospy]

Which has nothing to do with whether or not the mother is responsible for choosing to have a child she cannot feed.

Also what you are saying is easily refuted anyway by looking at government websites:
http://www.fns.usda.gov/wic/women-infants-and-children-wic

Are you saying that non-breastfeeding postpartum women are children? ^_^

It is providing for the person who is caring for the child. Still for the kid.

That was two sentences. Don't you feel stupid?

 

[nehalem256]

It is providing for the person who is caring for the child. Still for the kid.

That was two sentences. Don't you feel stupid?

So men don't care for children?:hmm:

Also, are you saying that pregnant women are children? Because according to liberals a fetus is not a child.

 

[fskimospy]

So men don't care for children?:hmm:

Also, are you saying that pregnant women are children? Because according to liberals a fetus is not a child.

Lol. And now the flailing begins again. No thanks.

You said something dumb and got called on it. The icing on the cake was that you were so proud of it you thought it was irrefutable. Turns out it took one sentence.

Oh, and fathers can get wic too.

 

[Knowing]

Everybody else does what? Refrains from having sex? Refrains from having children?

Whichever one you're going with here you're living in cloud cuckoo land.

Birth control is free now, you don't even have to go to the health department or the clinic where it was free before. The democrats and the republicans had this argument a couple of years ago and the democrats got the handout that they were looking for. Why does a person have to be "living in cloud cuckoo land" in order to realize that they were sold for more than a year on the idea that we needed to subsidize hormonal birth control in order to prevent unplanned pregnancies?

 

[nehalem256]

Lol. And now the flailing begins again. No thanks.

You said something dumb and got called on it. The icing on the cake was that you were so proud of it you thought it was irrefutable. Turns out it took one sentence.

No actually you didn't even address my irrefutable claim.

I said, if has 100% choice over whether to have a child, then it is her fault if she chooses to have a child she cannot feed.

You didn't even address that. You merely argued that welfare is for the child. Which in no way addresses who is at fault for the child needing welfare in the first place.

Oh, and fathers can get wic too.

Funny that they aren't mentioned. Why isn't it called PIC then?

 

[Veliko]

Nehalem appears to have two spreadsheets saved on his PC:

One is called "reasons why women are bad"
The other is called "reasons why liberals are bad"

Inside each one are dozens of ready-made posts that he copy and pastes onto the forum whenever he spots a gap somewhere; it explains perfectly why so little of what he says makes any sense.

 

[nehalem256]

Everybody else does what? Refrains from having sex? Refrains from having children?

Whichever one you're going with here you're living in cloud cuckoo land.

If only there was a way to have as much sex as you wanted and still be 100% guaranteed not to have a child :hmm:

 

[brandonb]

Everybody else does what? Refrains from having sex? Refrains from having children?

Whichever one you're going with here you're living in cloud cuckoo land.

So are they unwilling or unable to use birth control? Answer the question.

 

[Veliko]

Birth control is free now, you don't even have to go to the health department or the clinic where it was free before. The democrats and the republicans had this argument a couple of years ago and the democrats got the handout that they were looking for. Why does a person have to be "living in cloud cuckoo land" in order to realize that they were sold for more than a year on the idea that we needed to subsidize hormonal birth control in order to prevent unplanned pregnancies?

To be honest if you're genuinely struggling with this then you must be emotionally retarded.

 

[Veliko]

So are they unwilling or unable to use birth control? Answer the question.

I haven't got a clue.

Poor people have always had more kids than wealthier people, irrespective of whether contraception is available or not.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Everybody else does what? Refrains from having sex? Refrains from having children?

Whichever one you're going with here you're living in cloud cuckoo land.

Nice dodge. So it is completely unreasonable to expect people to use birth control?

 

[fskimospy]

So are they unwilling or unable to use birth control? Answer the question.

This is pretty shockingly obtuse.

By the way, what is your solution to the problem?

 

[Veliko]

Nice dodge. So it is completely unreasonable to expect people to use birth control?

I said unrealistic.

To expect everyone to use it every time? Most definitely.

Even the guy who first started all this a page back confessed that he often had sex without contraception... yet that was okay because he wasn't living in poverty.

You need to realise that poor people get randy, horny, and broody just like you do.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

This is pretty shockingly obtuse.

By the way, what is your solution to the problem?

Such smugness and arrogance. Why is it unreasonable to expect people to use birth control if they're in poverty and it is free?

I said unrealistic.

To expect everyone to use it every time? Most definitely.

Even the guy who first started all this a page back confessed that he often had sex without contraception... yet that was okay because he wasn't living in poverty.

Yes, accidents happen. But when you're poor and can't afford to feed more mouths, you need to take some responsibility. There really is no excuse since it is free. Saying "But they're HORNY!" is no excuse.

You need to realise that poor people get randy, horny, and broody just like you do.

I'm married, have no kids, and don't want to have kids and I make a very good living. Why do you suppose I'm approaching my mid-40s and don't have kids?

 

[brandonb]

I haven't got a clue.

Poor people have always had more kids than wealthier people, irrespective of whether contraception is available or not.

Could it be related to their bad behavior choices? Much like the rest of their lives? Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out this puzzle. Which is why you keep dodging the question. To answer it honestly, you'd have to admit that the person is responsible for their lives, and you just won't give in. Cool. When you come around, we can fix the problem. Right now keep sweeping it under the rug and get nowhere.

 

[nehalem256]

Birth control is free now, you don't even have to go to the health department or the clinic where it was free before. The democrats and the republicans had this argument a couple of years ago and the democrats got the handout that they were looking for. Why does a person have to be "living in cloud cuckoo land" in order to realize that they were sold for more than a year on the idea that we needed to subsidize hormonal birth control in order to prevent unplanned pregnancies?

What makes you think they are unplanned?

Beyond the familiar terrain of abortion or even contraception, House Republicans would inflict harm on low-income women trying to have children or who are already mothers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/26/opinion/26sat1.html

According to liberals if you don't want to support low-income women(oddly no mention of men there huh?) TRYING to have children you are engaged in a war on them.

 

[nehalem256]

I said unrealistic.

To expect everyone to use it every time? Most definitely.

Even the guy who first started all this a page back confessed that he often had sex without contraception... yet that was okay because he wasn't living in poverty.

Because he could feed any children that resulted.

You need to realise that poor people get randy, horny, and broody just like you do.

If only there was a 100% foolproof method of preventing children being born :hmm: