yearly raise

[pontifex]

so i started my 2nd year here back in november. last year i got a $3k raise.

this year, about 2/3 of the company is laid off and has been for seevral months. we didn't get any yearly bonuses and i have heard nothing about a raise yet.

should i ask or am i pretty much screwed since the company isn't doing so well?

 

[leftyman]

DEMAND a raise, with less employees around, there should be more money for you.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

If the company is not doing well, don't ask for a raise. This is the time that they look for cheaper workers. Keep your trap shut and look else where for employment,

 

[PricklyPete]

Sound screwed most likely.

 

[DeadByDawn]

We got the shaft this year as well. At least I'm still employed, can't say that for quite a few coworkers.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
If the company is not doing well, don't ask for a raise. This is the time that they look for cheaper workers. Keep your trap shut and look else where for employment,

i wish i could find employment elsewhere. i've been looking ever since i started.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: DeadByDawn
We got the shaft this year as well. At least I'm still employed, can't say that for quite a few coworkers.

true, but i hate my job, so its like a toss up.

 

[imported_cheapdude]

Abandon ship

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: leftyman
DEMAND a raise, with less employees around, there should be more money for you.

Yeah. You try that...

Sh1t happens man. Businesses go up and down. The company has a bad year you are affected. I worked for three months total when i started last year and got a $500 bonus. I worked the whole year here 2006 and was even promoted mid-year only to end up with a measly $700 bonus because the company did poor even though my department (IT) was right on track and met their goals.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: cheapdude
Abandon ship

thats the ideal solution but i'm outside of the shipping lanes and there aren't any ships to jump onto and i can't afford to just float around.

 

[lozina]

Hmm, I would've definitely said to ask for a raise but since you said you have been looking for a new job for a while now and can't find anything then I'd say you got no leverage. You're stuck in that hole.

 

[tw1164]

get a state job, lol

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: lozina
Hmm, I would've definitely said to ask for a raise but since you said you have been looking for a new job for a while now and can't find anything then I'd say you got no leverage. You're stuck in that hole.

most people here say thats the worst thing to do anyway. even if they do pay you more, they know you aren't happy and all that other stuff.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: lozina
Hmm, I would've definitely said to ask for a raise but since you said you have been looking for a new job for a while now and can't find anything then I'd say you got no leverage. You're stuck in that hole.

most people here say thats the worst thing to do anyway. even if they do pay you more, they know you aren't happy and all that other stuff.

well that's not the way I see it. The way I see it is inflation is gonna eat away your salary whether you like it or not. It's up to your yearly bonus to keep you ahead of inflation. Otherwise your salary is actually deteriorating. So asking for a raise shouldn't be misinterpreted as being unhappy.

 

[RelaxTheMind]

Ask for a promotion instead but keep your pay rate.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: RelaxTheMind
Ask for a promotion instead but keep your pay rate.

there's nothing for me to get promoted to.

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: RelaxTheMind
Ask for a promotion instead but keep your pay rate.

there's nothing for me to get promoted to.

Whoa if there's nothing for you to be promoted to then your yearly raise is the least of your concerns...

 

[spidey07]

No raise = a pay CUT.

That's like a huge slap in the face. Don't stand for it.

 

[blackdogdeek]

what do you do and where do you live?

 

[boredhokie]

Originally posted by: MrLee

Originally posted by: leftyman
DEMAND a raise, with less employees around, there should be more money for you.

Yeah. You try that...

Sh1t happens man. Businesses go up and down. The company has a bad year you are affected. I worked for three months total when i started last year and got a $500 bonus. I worked the whole year here 2006 and was even promoted mid-year only to end up with a measly $700 bonus because the company did poor even though my department (IT) was right on track and met their goals.

IT is still a cost center, even if it's a really efficient cost center. If you want to make money, be on the side where the money is coming in (sales).

 

[radioouman]

Just keep the job and don't worry about it. It is awfully easy to get all upset about a few bucks per paycheck.

In 2005, I finished a masters in engineering, and was told by my manager that I'd get a raise. It didn't happen, so I asked in six months, and he told me that I'd get it at the annual raise time. Instead, I got a 0.8% raise.

This year, I've just decided not to fill out my self evaluation and not even expect a raise. Much less stress.

 

[3NF]

If you're an above average employee and think you deserve it, then ask for it. However, it sounds like you hate the job and the company isn't doing well, so I wouldn't expect too much. Keep the job you have now and keep looking ...

 

[DaShen]

Over the past 2 years I have only received about 5-6K in raises, and I am actually doing better than most.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: MrLee

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: RelaxTheMind
Ask for a promotion instead but keep your pay rate.

there's nothing for me to get promoted to.

Whoa if there's nothing for you to be promoted to then your yearly raise is the least of your concerns...

its a small manufacturing company. there's only 2 people in the IT dept - my boss and myself.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: blackdogdeek
what do you do and where do you live?

My title is network admin but it should be tech support, because thats basically all I do.
I live in PA.