YART - What is teh stance for Creationists

[Nik]

/lawnchair

Who brought the fuckin beer?

oh look, popcorn.

/nomnom

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Nik
/lawnchair

Who brought the fuckin beer?

oh look, popcorn.

/nomnom

The popcorn was put here by God! Praise!

 

[tynopik]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

It's a gap invented by creationists and rejected by mainstream science.

so Gould is outside the mainstream?

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Nonetheless, when a scientist finds a gap, they try to fill that gap using the scientific method.

i think you lost the thread of the conversation which basically comes back to:
belief in micro does not necessarily lead to a belief in macro

in other words, there's nothing inconsistent in believing in micro but not macro

Originally posted by: jpeyton
When a creationist finds a gap, they fill that gap with God (at least until a real scientist comes along).

that is a very prejudiced and false view

if there is a gap in our understanding of the world, a creationist says that is simply . . . a gap in our understanding of the world, just like everyone else

Originally posted by: jpeyton
As I mentioned earlier, God is truly a "God of the gaps".

and as i mentioned before your utter ignorance of religious belief is appalling

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Nik
/lawnchair

Who brought the fuckin beer?

oh look, popcorn.

/nomnom

The popcorn was put here by God! Praise!

If God really exists, he'll POOF an 18 pack of beer in a cooler here next to me with ice and a bald stripper wearing high gloss leather strippings with bottle opener in-hand.








...helllooooooOOOOOOoooooo... GooooOOOOOoooooood ... where aaaaaaare youuuuuuuu...






















DAMMIT JEBUS WHERE IS MAH BIERZ

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Nik
/lawnchair

Who brought the fuckin beer?

oh look, popcorn.

/nomnom

The popcorn was put here by the Flying Spaghetti Monster! Praise!

fixed.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: tynopik

Originally posted by: jpeyton
When a creationist finds a gap, they fill that gap with God (at least until a real scientist comes along).

that is a very prejudiced and false view

if there is a gap in our understanding of the world, a creationist says that is simply . . . a gap in our understanding of the world, just like everyone else

Originally posted by: jpeyton
As I mentioned earlier, God is truly a "God of the gaps".

and as i mentioned before your utter ignorance of religious belief is appalling

He's probably saying that the mere "existance" of god or God or any/all gods is nothing more than a human construct to "answer" questions that early man could not answer. Like why the sun rises and sets every day and why the moon sometimes disappears once a month, why the tides eb and flow, why the wind blows, etc.

*cough*

Sorry.

Please continue your debate.


/nomnomnom

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: tynopik
and as i mentioned before your utter ignorance of religious belief is appalling

Religious belief is ignorance in itself.

I give no quarter to religious people to spout their creationist garbage in a scientific arena.

Atheists are slowly waking up and realizing that we no longer need to accommodate religious theory in society any more than we need to accommodate stories about Santa Claus being real.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: FeuerFrei
I've never seen a creationist publication contest subspeciation. It would be dumb to deny an observed process.

God created initial life forms, an indeterminate number of species, and since then new species have branched off, but always variations on their kind, not new animal kingdoms.

Well he's pretty crappy at his job seeing as how almost every creature he created has gone extinct.

~98% of all species that ever existed, actually.

Not only that, but we are currently undergoing what may be the largest mass extinction in the ~ 4 billion history of life on earth. It's been going on for (I think) 10-20 thousand years (mass extinctions tend to happen over thousands of years--not over a day or over several years and such).

So, this begs the question: why would the "chosen" creatures be placed during a rather...unsuitable epoch?

Answer: God's an asshole :|

 

[tynopik]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Religious belief is ignorance in itself.

I give no quarter to religious people to spout their creationist garbage in a scientific arena.

then learn enough about your opponents so that you can make an intelligent argument

spouting arguments based in ignorance only hurts your cause

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: tynopik

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Religious belief is ignorance in itself.

I give no quarter to religious people to spout their creationist garbage in a scientific arena.

then learn enough about your opponents so that you can make an intelligent argument

spouting arguments based in ignorance only hurts your cause

I apply the same intelligent argument I use to disprove the existence of the tooth fairy to God.

Isn't that good enough? Why is the burden of proof on me to prove a negative?

Why don't you come up with an intelligent argument to prove that there isn't a colony of intergalactic gnomes living on Jupiter's moons.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: tynopik

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Religious belief is ignorance in itself.

I give no quarter to religious people to spout their creationist garbage in a scientific arena.

then learn enough about your opponents so that you can make an intelligent argument

spouting arguments based in ignorance only hurts your cause

Burden of proof is on you, bub.

In case you hadn't noticed, reality kicks you in the nuts every time someone replies to one of your posts in this thread.

Face it. You're a brainwashed religious nut who, not only isn't willing to listen to reason and understand logic, is actually incapable of doing so.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: tynopik

Originally posted by: Gibsons
To trot out an old one, you believe in inches, but not in miles.

As I pointed out, they are not the same units.

Even prominent evolutionists recognize this.

They describe the same thing.

 

[tynopik]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: tynopik

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Religious belief is ignorance in itself.

I give no quarter to religious people to spout their creationist garbage in a scientific arena.

then learn enough about your opponents so that you can make an intelligent argument

spouting arguments based in ignorance only hurts your cause

I apply the same intelligent argument I use to disprove the existence of the tooth fairy to God.

I was referring to your "God is just a God of the gaps" argument

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: tynopik
I was referring to your "God is just a God of the gaps" argument

Originally posted by: tynopik
spouting arguments based in ignorance only hurts your cause

 

[tynopik]

Originally posted by: Nik
Burden of proof is on you, bub.

i am not here to defend religion or anything else

i am here merely to poke holes in whatever exceptionally silly argument catches my fancy

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: tynopik

Originally posted by: Nik
Burden of proof is on you, bub.

i am here merely to poke holes in whatever exceptionally silly argument catches my fancy

Whoop dee doo, you poked some holes in our scientific knowledge of the universe. All that acknowledges is that there are discoveries yet to be made.

Who would have thought mankind, in it's exceptionally short history of scientific discovery, wouldn't have figured out the entire universe by now?

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: tynopik

Originally posted by: Nik
Burden of proof is on you, bub.

i am not here to defend religion or anything else

i am here merely to poke holes in whatever exceptionally silly argument catches my fancy

Your exceptionally silly argument needs to let go of your fancy.

If I were you, I'd be fuckin pissed at God for making you a dumbass.

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: tynopik

Originally posted by: Nik
Burden of proof is on you, bub.

i am here merely to poke holes in whatever exceptionally silly argument catches my fancy

Whoop dee doo, you poked some holes in our scientific knowledge of the universe. All that acknowledges is that there are discoveries yet to be made.

Who would have thought mankind, in it's exceptionally short history of scientific discovery, wouldn't have figured out the entire universe by now?

Yeah, what's up with that?

Stupid humans. Who do they think they are.

 

[spikespiegal]

what do creationists think of fossils?

You give them weird hair-cuts, and put them on late night evangelical stations to fill in gaps on my digital receiver.

what do evolutions think of the gap between micro and macro evolution

I know that according to you pinheads it explains fewer animals to put on the Ark - so the one kid in sunday school class with an I.Q over 80 that raises his hand questioning this gets told to shut up in a nicer way. Am I close?

Maybe you can explain why your buddies 350years ago put Galileo under house arrest. Good thing there's this thing called 'seperation of church and state' now.

 

[tynopik]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: tynopik

Originally posted by: Nik
Burden of proof is on you, bub.

i am here merely to poke holes in whatever exceptionally silly argument catches my fancy

Whoop dee doo, you poked some holes in our scientific knowledge of the universe. All that acknowledges is that there are discoveries yet to be made.

Who would have thought mankind, in it's exceptionally short history of scientific discovery, wouldn't have figured out the entire universe by now?

sigh

well it's obvious no one's paying the slightest attention to what i'm actually saying

suffice it to say, it had nothing to do with criticizing our lack of scientific knowledge

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: tynopik
well it's obvious no one's paying the slightest attention to what i'm actually saying

You finally figured it out.

 

[tynopik]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: tynopik
well it's obvious no one's paying the slightest attention to what i'm actually saying

You finally figured it out.

well yes, for everyone else

sorry for expecting more from a moderator

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: Barfo
Some bearded dude wished it and they appeared suddenly?

Just because! The same answer you give the kids after their umpteenth annoying question. But mostly because you don't know the correct explanation.

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: tynopik

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: tynopik
well it's obvious no one's paying the slightest attention to what i'm actually saying

You finally figured it out.

well yes, for everyone else

sorry for expecting more from a moderator

there is only one thing left for you to do:

Do a barrel roll.

 

[RESmonkey]

Religious people are suckers.


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