YART: welfare recipiant has a Scion TC???

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: quakefiend420

exactly...they shouldn't be made to sell their 95 civic...

Sure they should.

You have certain assets, and if you owe someone money you have to sell off your assets. If you own a house and a car, and the bill collector comes knocking and says that you owe $200k, you're forced to sell your house and car, since that value isn't really yours, it's indebted to someone else.

I have lots of toys. I have a twin turbo Z, a jet ski, a RC helicopter, computers, etc. If I suddenly lost my job and couldn't afford to live, what should I do? I can't sit there with my toys and expect someone else to pay for me to live, I have to sell that stuff so I can feed myself.

Yeah but a 95 Civic is far from a toy. If the person needs the car to look for work and/or hold a job then they should be allowed to keep it. If they live in a city where there is a bus network then fvck 'em. What I mean is that the cost to the taxpayer in some circumstances is lower if they keep the car and actually use it to work. If not, then they should lose the car.

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: Eli
And you're wrong, I do NOT view welfare as some infinite pool of money, that's obsurd.

I'm looking at it from this point of view;

There's 800 million dollars in the pool. There are 250,000 recipients, recieving a total of 600 million dollars. The USDA decides to adveritse because 200 million dollars is going unused.

Can you show me that more welfare users are causing the taxes to go up? If that is indeed the case, then CLEARLY the rules need to be changed. However, if the Welfare money is already set aside regardless ... that is completely different, and again - it would be up to the people in charge of the program to set the rules for who gets it!

What do you think happens to the $200 million that isn't used in the end? Right. It goes back. You think they can the extra $200 million? The money is then used elsewhere where it is probably more needed than make these lazy fvcks fat. If that money didn't come back we'd have to pay for more lazy fvcks to get fat one way or another. Money is scarce and it get used one way or another.

The only thing is that the USDA could draw upon the extra $200 million if they need to since it was allocated to them already. They have an incentive to advertise and get people to take the extra $200 million because it helps their department to have more funds running through it, since they can better offices, more employees, more promotions and run a bigger, fatter ship overall. Come on. It's all about greed.

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: magomago
My friend's dad has all his kids go to college for free and it gets paid by the state....and he is the freaking millionaire (literally).

Not just poor people milk the system, rich people also do that

How did he pull that?

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: sxr7171

Originally posted by: FoBoT
the USDA which runs the food stamp program is currently running radio ads to try and get more people signed up. the radio ad said that only about half of those eligible are getting food stamps.

so basically, your tax dollar is being used to solicit more people to sign up for welfare

Disgusting. All this while they neglect education, and refuse to raise the cap on Stafford loans. Those caps were set years ago and the cost of education has been steadily rising. You can't go to school anymore without hitting up private lenders.

Getting close to my Stafford cap also. Oh, but the idiot piece of whitetrash who is a friend of my gf gets a free ride because her Mom is a stupid poor piece of whitetrash. This girl is actually smart, but her lazy fat white trash ass sits in the dorm sleeping all day instead of going to class. :| Did I mention she doesn't even have a job and used grant money to buy a laptop so she has more reason not to go to class?
I got a private loan to buy a nice laptop because I wanted/needed one, which I will have to pay back with interest. Fvck her

 

[TitanDiddly]

People who collect welfare and don't need it(i.e. have a new car) should be shot in the head.

 

[frankierx]

no

 

[Delbert]

1. Sell Scion
2. Buy cheaper transportation.
3. Profit?

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: sxr7171

Originally posted by: magomago
My friend's dad has all his kids go to college for free and it gets paid by the state....and he is the freaking millionaire (literally).

Not just poor people milk the system, rich people also do that

How did he pull that?

It is what I have been trying to say all along.

The rich are just as elligable for government help as anybody.

The argument that the people don't deserve it because they have money doesen't really hold any merrit; it's the purveyor of the program that decides that.

In many cases, it is a requirement that you make XXXX ammount of money a year to even be elligable for a grant.

I realize that government grants may not exactly be 100% synonymous with Welfare and Food Stamps, but my point is that there are billions of dollars given away every year, both to the rich and the poor.

It serves its purpose in most cases. There will always be leaches.. the laws should be made to keep their numbers to a minimum.

I'm feeling lazy right now, but someone with some time should do some research and see, for example how much money was granted to say... Microsoft.

I bet it was a lot more than 0$. Do they need it? Fsck no. Will they recieve it if they apply and are elligable? Probably.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: sxr7171

Originally posted by: Eli
And you're wrong, I do NOT view welfare as some infinite pool of money, that's obsurd.

I'm looking at it from this point of view;

There's 800 million dollars in the pool. There are 250,000 recipients, recieving a total of 600 million dollars. The USDA decides to adveritse because 200 million dollars is going unused.

Can you show me that more welfare users are causing the taxes to go up? If that is indeed the case, then CLEARLY the rules need to be changed. However, if the Welfare money is already set aside regardless ... that is completely different, and again - it would be up to the people in charge of the program to set the rules for who gets it!

What do you think happens to the $200 million that isn't used in the end? Right. It goes back. You think they can the extra $200 million? The money is then used elsewhere where it is probably more needed than make these lazy fvcks fat. If that money didn't come back we'd have to pay for more lazy fvcks to get fat one way or another. Money is scarce and it get used one way or another.

The only thing is that the USDA could draw upon the extra $200 million if they need to since it was allocated to them already. They have an incentive to advertise and get people to take the extra $200 million because it helps their department to have more funds running through it, since they can better offices, more employees, more promotions and run a bigger, fatter ship overall. Come on. It's all about greed.

I'm not sure what happens to that 200 million, that's what I was asking for.. more information. I've seen a lot of sh!t spewed in here, from myself included.. But it's all opinion as far as I've been able to tell.

In the case of government grants, it goes unused as far as I know. Maybe it rolls on into next years pool? Dunno.